JamesInFlorida
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Actually, it was Thomas Jefferson who formed the Republican Party in 1794 to stand for freedom and liberty from government. Modern Republicans, especially Tea Party Republicans, stand for exactly the same thing.
James: Unless you're black, Indian, don't own land or a Woman. Other than that-you're spot on!
Brutus: Actually, Jefferson did more to get the freedom ball rolling than any other human being in history. HIs original draft of the constitution was mmore about slavery than taxes. He is perhaps the world's greatest hero. In a very real sense he just freed 2 billion from communism in China, USSR, and India
James: Oh and he was so for small government-he would never double the size of the country (something which no other president has done), with one stroke of a pen. Yeah that's small government all right! (I know he was for small government-just saying he didn't always take his won advice very well).
Brutus: It seems you've confused the size of the country with the size of the government. You can have freedom in both huge and tiny countries.
James: PS: He (and Madison-a big government guy), formed the Democratic-Republican Party, which broke off into several smaller parties in the early 1800's.
Brutus: Of course if that was true you could provide a quote from a speech, newspaper or letter where Jefferson called himself or the Party he formed in 1793, Democratic-Republican. Welcome to your first lesson in American History.
James: PPS: The modern Republican party was founded in 1854-well after Jefferson was dead.
Brutus: So then what did the newspapers, speeches , and surviving letters
from the 1790's call the Party Jefferson formed in 1794: Republican!!!
Dunn: "Although people were still deeply ambivalent about political parties, although one party did not necessarily recognize the legitimacy of the other, and although men on both sides were nostalgic- at one time or another- for the imaginary golden age of political harmony, few people could be found in the early 1790's who believed the parties did not exist. The parties had names: Federalist and Republican." -Susan Dunn, "Jefferson's Second Revolution."
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-First of all Madison, Hamilton, and Jay are known for writing the Federalists Papers-which outline the constitution, and reasonings (to get the public behind it)
-Jefferson was NOT a writer of the constitution-in fact he didn't even sign it
-Ever hear of the Embargo Act that Jefferson made? You know the act that restricted what Americans could trade? Guess not. (big government)
-What I meant by doubling the size of the country was this: having one person able to double the size of the country is an example of big government.
-The constitution didn't give Jefferson power to expand the nation like this either.
-The modern Republic party was formed in 1854
The Republican campaign text book ... - Google Books
Read it at you might learn something about the modern Republican party's history.