Who was it who said Polls do not matter show me the electoral map?

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    Someone recently said, in response to McCains lead in the polls, that Polls do not matter only the electoral race matters.

    At that time of course Obama still had a slight lead in Electoral projections.

    What say you now?




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    VA and PA are in the "toss up" category right now. I predict they will be solid for McCain very soon.
     
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    Well, I have said people get too vaclemp over polls, so maybe you're talking to me Charles. I still say the same thing, it's September, and the debates haven't started yet.


    Some people love them because it gives them an idea of what the public is "thinking" at the time the poll was taken. But...............

    I still say, after Nov. 5th let's see what the people in the polls say.
     
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    I have always said that anything in the 2-point range (a dead heat) is worthless as the machines are hackable without a trace.

    If one of the candidates doesn't break away there will be a huge question mark hanging over whatever the result is.
     
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    No echo, the person I am referring to Specifically said polls do not matter, only the electoral projections do.

    As I said at that time Obama had a slight, but shrinking lead in he Electoral Projections. I simply would like to hear what that person thinks now that McCain is leading in the Electoral projections as well as the polls.

    Oh and as for the Debates.

    I think you guys are giving Obama way to much credit. He gives one hell of a speach, but when speaking off the cuff he is lacking. I think he will not fair so well in the debates myself. But we shall see.
     
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    I agree, McCain will do well in the debates, and so will Biden.
     
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    If Obama loses Penn, he will lose for sure. Democrats should be terrified.
     
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    I think Biden, at best, will come across as he always does, arrogant and condescending.
     
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    Seriously? I know you weren't talking to me but everything you are posting is simply a PROJECTION. In addition, there are numerous projections all with different outcomes.

    The graph below is from the Princeton Education Consortium. In the last presidential election they call the electoral vote to the EXACT number.

    If the election was held today, here is how they have it playing out.

    [​IMG]

    Electoral Votes:

    Obama: 275
    McCain: 263

    Princeton Election Consortium — A first draft of electoral history

    The point of all this?

    Let's all quit getting excited about polls and electoral vote projections. We all know it doesn't mean much right now.

    We haven't even had debate # 1 yet!
     
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    I wonder if it is an upbringing thing. I was raised catholic, so was he, he 'sounds right' to me. Evangelical politicians on the other hand, for all that I respect them, (or in some cases try to at any rate!) hardly ever 'sound' quite right to me (Except Huckabee.) Bush sounded shifty and opportunistic. Palin does a bit too.

    It's interesting that you think Biden sounds arrogant! I am going to have to listen for that next time.

    I wonder if there is more wiring from our upbringing then we realize, that makes us still a little tribal when it comes to politics. Could be wrong, of course!
     

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