Who Makes US Military Equipment?

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    1. "...after investing around $100 million in this project, Hawker-Beechcraft has been excluded from a contract, worth almost $1 billion, to build a new light air support plane.

    2. ...the Brazilian company Embraer, the likely contract winner, is currently under investigation by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, and the Justice Department, for possible violations of the US Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.

    3. According to the company’s news release: “The letter provides no basis for the exclusion. We are both confounded and troubled by this decision, as we have been working closely with the Air Force for two years and, with our partners Lockheed Martin, CMC Esterline, Pratt & Whitney Canada, L-3 WESCAM and CAE, have invested more than $100 million preparing to meet the Air Force’s specific requirements.”

    4. The company has said that 1,400 employees in 20 states – including 800 at Hawker Beechcraft in Wichita – work on the AT-6 and T-6 programs at the company and its U.S. suppliers and partners

    5. The Air Force’s move surprised aircraft industry analyst Richard Aboulafia of the Teal Group.
    “They seemed to be the front runner for the contract,” he said of Hawker. “They had the most infrastructure spread over the most states and the most political support.”...“It might lead to more layoffs..."
    Hawker-Beechcraft Denied Big Air Force Contract in Favor of Brazilian Company With Soros Connections « MADE IN USA NEWS


    6 And a related story...
    "The two leading Democratic presidential contenders criticized the Pentagon for relying on a foreign business for important military equipment. Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois said Monday that it was hard for him to believe “that having an American company that has been a traditional source of aeronautic excellence would not have done thisjob.” Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York said she was “deeply concerned about the Bush administration’s decision to outsource the production of refueling tankers for the American military.” “It is troubling that the Bush administration would award the second-largest Pentagon contract in our nation’s history to a team that includes a European firm that our government is simultaneously suing at the World Trade Organization for allegedly receiving illegal subsidies, Clinton said.”
    The PJ Tatler » Hawker Beechcraft CEO Wants Answers that Sen. Obama Once Asked For


    7. And...one might recall:
    "Brazil's President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva has said the world's poor people should not be forced to pay for the global financial crisis. President Lula said white, blue-eyed people - not Indians, nor black, nor poor people - had created and spread the crisis throughout the world."
    BBC NEWS | Business | Brazil's Lula raps 'white' crisis

    And then, a week later, this from the 'President of all the people'...

    ""That’s my man right here," President Obama said this morning at the G-20 summit as Brazil President Luiz Inacio Lula de Silva approached him. "Love this guy. He’s the most popular politican on earth. It’s because of his good looks."
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2009/04/thats-my-man-ri/


    Barack Hussein Obama....wrong on so many different levels.
     
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    When the Klintons decided that every Soldier should feel like Special Forces with his own beret the contract for the headgear was awarded to China.
     
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    Well, you might have a point if it wasn't for the facts that:

    A) The A-29 is larger, and has larger control surfaces for greater stability than the AT-6.
    B) The A-29 has a better cockpit arrangement providing improved visibility, safety and mission effectiveness.
    C) The A-29 has internally mounted 50 caliber machine guns, where the AT-6 has to have them mounted on exterior hard-points, giving up using those points for bombs or sensors.
    D) The A-29 has a lower per unit cost than the AT-6.

    Other than that...
     
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    Yet....

    1. "It’s troubling, however, that Hawker-Beechcraft was given no real explanation for this decision. It’s also troubling we’d buy a military aircraft from a foreign manufacturer, under any circumstances. As bad as Americans need jobs, it doesn’t make a lot of sense. Never mind the national security factor.
    It's still a mystery... but it's one that Hawker Beech intends to get to the bottom of... Hawker Beechcraft has confirmed that they will file a suit with the Court of Federal Claims following notification late last week that the Government Accountability Office (GAO) has declined to review its protest of the decision by the U.S. Air Force to exclude the company's Beechcraft AT-6 from the Light Air Support (LAS) competition.

    The company still has no concrete reasons for the AT-6's exclusion, having been denied explanation by the US Air Force on two occasions. The LAS contract is valued at nearly $1 billion of U.S. taxpayer money and exclusion of the AT-6 could result in a de facto award to a non-U.S. company."
    Odd Coincidence: Soros-Affiliated Brazilian Company Looks to Win Major DOD Contract Over U.S. Competition


    2. "Hawker Beechcraft said it continues to believe the AT-6 is the most capable, affordable and sustainable aircraft in the competition based on the Air Force’s specifications."
    The Obama regime sure seems to favor Brazil for some reason. It may be the fact Obama’s boss, George Soros, has many investments there. As we know, Obama gave the Soros owned Brazilian oil giant Petrobas $10 billion a couple years back, just days after Soros bought controlling interest in the company."
    AMERICAN AIRCRAFT COMPANY DENIED BIG AIR FORCE CONTRACT IN FAVOR OF BRAZILIAN COMPANY WITH GEORGE SOROS CONNECTION

    3. According to Snopes, th facts of the story are still undetermined.
    snopes.com: Hawker Beechcraft

    4. On the other hand, the folloiwing supports the Pentagon decision:
    Beechcraft’s AT-6 v. Embraer’s Super Tucano A-29: the facts
     
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    in 08 Northrop Grumman sent me a letter about my investments. if a certain democrap wins the election your investments may decline.

    they were right
     

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