Who Decides if You Can Afford to Buy Health Insurance with this new bill?

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    And who gets it for free???

    Anyone know? Thanks.
     
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    As much time as you spend posting on here, why not simply read the bill and answer your own damn questions. How fucking lazy can you be?
     
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    It will be based on your income
     
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    Those retorts don't answer the question.

    WHO
    gets to be "the decider"?

    Fret not..Nobody expects that y'all can come up with the answer.
     
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    No matter what the bill says, folks will decide whether or not to purchase insurance.

    How do I know?

    Auto insurance is the law...

    “Even in good times, many Americans drive without insurance. The Insurance Research Council's previous study, released in 2006, found that nearly 15% of drivers nationally were uninsured in 2004, up from about 13% in 1999. In some states, including Mississippi, California and Arizona, roughly a quarter of drivers weren't insured.”
    And this is even though auto insurance is required in 48 states, costs less than health insurance, and jail time is possible!
    Road Risks Rise as More Drivers Drop Insurance - WSJ.com
     
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    Except that there's no "public option" for auto insurance.
     
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    The 'public option' is not free, so folks will still decide where the shekels get to go.
     
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    Or "the decider" will declare more and more people eligible for the gubmint handout, making private insurance unprofitable. Sort of a twisted converse of the income tax code.

    Bet on it.
     
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    Nail on the head, brother.

    They have listed an inordinate number of mandates that must be covered, AND stated that if any aspect of your policy changes, bingo, you're on the gubmint plan.

    Now, check this out:
    Which costs the averge American more, entertainment and alcohol, or healthcare?

    Which costs the average American more, Alcohol,gasoline and oil, or healthcare?

    Which is more, food or healthcare?

    http://www.mymoneyblog.com/images/0908/moneygo900.jpg
    US Dept of Labor, april 2009
    Here’s an interesting graphic of the spending breakdown for the average U.S. consumer. It’s based a theoretical household “unit” consisting of 2.5 people, not individuals. Looks like such a household unit spends approximately $50,000 per year. Click on image for larger version.
    Income before taxes $63,091
    Average annual expenditures $49,638
    2.5 in the family
    1.3 earners, 67% are homeowners
    Entertainment $2698 5.4%
    Food 6133 12.4
    Alcoholic Bev. 457 0.9
    Healthcare 2853 5.7
    Tobacco 323 0.7
    Housing 16,920 34.1
    Transportation 8758 17.6
    (gas&oil) 2384` 4.8
    Average food spending was $6133, of which $3465 was spent on meals at home. Based on this data, one can conclude that the average consumer unit spends roughly $300 per month on meals prepared at home and roughly $225 per month on meals away from home.
    Each year, the average American spends $1881 on “apparel and services”, for example, but only $118 on books.
    The chart doesn’t include taxes because the government survey doesn’t include taxes. If the average consumer unit earns $63,091 but spends $49,648, there are $13,443 unaccounted for. The personal saving rate in 2007 was less than 1%, so I’m guessing that most of the unspecified money goes to taxes.


    $.47 of every food dollar is spent on dining out
    WikiAnswers - How much does an average american spend on dining out
     
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    Hard to pull up that info. There is a bill reconciliation committee with affordability in the name. There are 40 plus agencies being created here too. I'm guessing the Affordability Czar. The penalty can't exceed 2.5% of your income, apparently they think that is affordable. Seems like a $5,000 figure was floating out there at one point. Then there was a sliding scale based on income.
     

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