Where is the evidence that there was “Israel” in Palestine?

[rupol2000]

According to the book of Joshua, the Jews expelled from Egypt captured the cities of Canaanite. But this is not a scientific source, and archaeologists do not confirm this.
No other sources confirm this.


But even if we assume that this is so, they were still occupiers of foreign land.

Then the Philistines liberated the land of Haanan, and have lived there ever since.

Accordingly, there is not a single reason to believe that Jews have any rights to Palestinian land.

 

[airplanemechanic]

According to the book of Joshua, the Jews expelled from Egypt captured the cities of Canaanite. But this is not a scientific source, and archaeologists do not confirm this.
No other sources confirm this.


But even if we assume that this is so, they were still occupiers of foreign land.

Then the Philistines liberated the land of Haanan, and have lived there ever since.

Accordingly, there is not a single reason to believe that Jews have any rights to Palestinian land.

You mean Canaan? Long before it was Canaan it was the Kingdom of Judea, and King Solomons son divided the land into two parts, one being Israel. So it was Israel FIRST. Jews have lived on that land for 4000 years.

Don't worry about the book of Joshua. Worry about 1947.

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"On November 29, 1947 the United Nations adopted Resolution 181 (also known as the Partition Resolution) that would divide Great Britain’s former Palestinian mandate into Jewish and Arab states in May 1948 when the British mandate was scheduled to end. "

Jews have lived continuously on the land that is now Israel for over 4000 years. It is not accurate to say that Israel stole land from Palestinians.

Originally Israel was MUCH larger than it is now. The brits got it during WW1 and then in 1947 signed it over to what is now Israel. They never said ANYTHING about Palestine. Even the flag of "Palestine" had a star of David on it under the mandate.

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The land that is now Israel was originally called the Kingdom of Judea, hence why Jews are called what we are. It was led by King Saul, then King David, and then King Solomon. During the reign of King Solomon's son, the kingdom of Judea split into two kingdoms, one was named Israel.

Eventually, the Roman Empire conquered the Jewish State and after some major revolts against the empire by the Jews. The second revolt occurred in 135 AD. In retaliation for the revolt, they exiled yet more Jews, took many more to Rome as slaves, outright banned them from Jerusalem.

So originally it WAS Jewish land. Palestine didn't come along for centuries.

 

[rupol2000]

Don't worry about the book of Joshua. Worry about 1947.

It was a simple occupation under pressure from the bloody Stalinists

 

[rupol2000]

So originally it WAS Jewish land. Palestine didn't come along for centuries.

Firstly, this is a map based on fairy tales, and secondly, Judea is not “Israel”

 

[rupol2000]

Jews have lived continuously on the land that is now Israel for over 4000 years. It is not accurate to say that Israel stole land from Palestinians.

I repeat, there is no evidence of the presence of Jews in Palestine (Canaan) except for the unscientific book of Joshua, but if we assume that the Jews actually populated the cities of Canaan, this was only until the moment when the territories were deoccupied by the Philistines.

 

[rupol2000]

The Philistines (Palestinians) (Heb. פלישתים‎ plishtim, Greek φιλισταίοι) are an ancient people who inhabited the coastal part of Canaan (from modern Tel Aviv to Gaza) starting from the 12th century BC. e. Repeatedly mentioned in the Old Testament (starting with Gen. 10:14), as well as in Assyrian and Egyptian sources.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

The answer to your question is "everywhere"

Now, shut up and take your meds, crazy Muzzie.

 

[Roudy]

You must be kidding me. There are thousands of artifacts and archeological sites proving that Israel and a Jewish people existed going back thousands of years. And every day they discover something new.

You know what there isn’t any evidence of? That a Palestinian people, ruler, currency, city, language etc. ever existed. Anywhere.

 

[rupol2000]

You must be kidding me. There are thousands of artifacts and archeological sites proving that Israel and a Jewish people existed going back thousands of years. And every day they discover something new.

You know what there isn’t any evidence of? That a Palestinian people, ruler, currency, city, language etc. ever existed. Anywhere.

This is a lie. It is reliably known that the Ashkenazi lived until recently in the Pale of Settlement, mainly in the area of modern Minsk.

Spoke East German

The legends of church books are not evidence; archaeologists do not confirm the presence of Jews in Canaan and Palestine

 

[airplanemechanic]

This is a lie. It is reliably known that the Ashkenazi lived until recently in the Pale of Settlement, mainly in the area of modern Minsk.

Spoke East German

The legends of church books are not evidence; archaeologists do not confirm the presence of Jews in Canaan and Palestine

And what proof do archeologists have that Palestinians were there before Jews?

The top 10 archaeological discoveries in Israel

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www.haaretz.com

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Artifacts from Israel - Licensed Antiquities Dealer in Jerusalem

Ancient artifacts from the Canaanite period until the Byzantine era. Ancient Idols, farming tools, Medical instruments, Crusader crosses and bread stamps.

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[rupol2000]

You know what there isn’t any evidence of? That a Palestinian people, ruler, currency, city, language etc. ever existed. Anywhere.

These are the Philistines, they have lived there since at least the 12th century BC, and are mentioned in many different sources, including the Bible

 

[rupol2000]

And what proof do archeologists have that Palestinians were there before Jews?

No one questions this

 

[rupol2000]

before Jews

According to Joshua, Canaanites lived there, but that is the only source. Where else is the Jewish capture of the Canaanite cities confirmed?
Even if they were captured, how does it follow that they belonged to them by right?

 

[rupol2000]

Want to buy some?

Artifacts from Israel - Licensed Antiquities Dealer in Jerusalem

Ancient artifacts from the Canaanite period until the Byzantine era. Ancient Idols, farming tools, Medical instruments, Crusader crosses and bread stamps.

zaksantiquities.com

It says that these are artifacts of the Caananites, what does the Jews have to do with it?

 

[airplanemechanic]

It says that these are artifacts of the Caananites, what does the Jews have to do with it?

What do the Palestinians have to do with it?

You're digging your hole deeper every time you open your mouth.

 

[rupol2000]

What do the Palestinians have to do with it?

So far you have not answered the question of what Jews and some fabulous “Israel” have to do with this

 

[surada]

You mean Canaan? Long before it was Canaan it was the Kingdom of Judea, and King Solomons son divided the land into two parts, one being Israel. So it was Israel FIRST. Jews have lived on that land for 4000 years.

Don't worry about the book of Joshua. Worry about 1947.

Milestones in the History of U.S. Foreign Relations - Office of the Historian

history.state.gov 3.0 shell

history.state.gov

"On November 29, 1947 the United Nations adopted Resolution 181 (also known as the Partition Resolution) that would divide Great Britain’s former Palestinian mandate into Jewish and Arab states in May 1948 when the British mandate was scheduled to end. "

Jews have lived continuously on the land that is now Israel for over 4000 years. It is not accurate to say that Israel stole land from Palestinians.

Originally Israel was MUCH larger than it is now. The brits got it during WW1 and then in 1947 signed it over to what is now Israel. They never said ANYTHING about Palestine. Even the flag of "Palestine" had a star of David on it under the mandate.

Did Jews take Israel away from Palestinians? - The Jewish Federation of Sarasota-Manatee

Immediately after World War II, under the British Mandate, Jewish refugees from the Holocaust were limited to 18,000 per year. Thus...

jfedsrq.org

The land that is now Israel was originally called the Kingdom of Judea, hence why Jews are called what we are. It was led by King Saul, then King David, and then King Solomon. During the reign of King Solomon's son, the kingdom of Judea split into two kingdoms, one was named Israel.

Eventually, the Roman Empire conquered the Jewish State and after some major revolts against the empire by the Jews. The second revolt occurred in 135 AD. In retaliation for the revolt, they exiled yet more Jews, took many more to Rome as slaves, outright banned them from Jerusalem.

So originally it WAS Jewish land. Palestine didn't come along for centuries.

It was Canaan long before there were any Jews. Palestine was a province of Syria and the Jebusite city became Jerusalem.

It was also part of the Akkadian Empire long before Abraham who was also a Canaanite from Urfa near Haran in Syria.

 

[surada]

According to Joshua, Canaanites lived there, but that is the only source. Where else is the Jewish capture of the Canaanite cities confirmed?
Even if they were captured, how does it follow that they belonged to them by right?

The Canaanite cities were undisturbed. They were involved in mining, metallurgy and pottery making... and they paid tribute to pharaoh.

Israel's history is pretty fanciful, but they were great storytellers.

 

[surada]

You mean Canaan? Long before it was Canaan it was the Kingdom of Judea, and King Solomons son divided the land into two parts, one being Israel. So it was Israel FIRST. Jews have lived on that land for 4000 years.

Don't worry about the book of Joshua. Worry about 1947.

Milestones in the History of U.S. Foreign Relations - Office of the Historian

history.state.gov 3.0 shell

history.state.gov

"On November 29, 1947 the United Nations adopted Resolution 181 (also known as the Partition Resolution) that would divide Great Britain’s former Palestinian mandate into Jewish and Arab states in May 1948 when the British mandate was scheduled to end. "

Jews have lived continuously on the land that is now Israel for over 4000 years. It is not accurate to say that Israel stole land from Palestinians.

Originally Israel was MUCH larger than it is now. The brits got it during WW1 and then in 1947 signed it over to what is now Israel. They never said ANYTHING about Palestine. Even the flag of "Palestine" had a star of David on it under the mandate.

Did Jews take Israel away from Palestinians? - The Jewish Federation of Sarasota-Manatee

Immediately after World War II, under the British Mandate, Jewish refugees from the Holocaust were limited to 18,000 per year. Thus...

jfedsrq.org

The land that is now Israel was originally called the Kingdom of Judea, hence why Jews are called what we are. It was led by King Saul, then King David, and then King Solomon. During the reign of King Solomon's son, the kingdom of Judea split into two kingdoms, one was named Israel.

Eventually, the Roman Empire conquered the Jewish State and after some major revolts against the empire by the Jews. The second revolt occurred in 135 AD. In retaliation for the revolt, they exiled yet more Jews, took many more to Rome as slaves, outright banned them from Jerusalem.

So originally it WAS Jewish land. Palestine didn't come along for centuries.

It was called Syria Palestine by Herodotus in 500 BC.

1922 census

1922 census of Palestine - Wikipedia

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The reported population was 757,182, including the military and persons of foreign nationality.

The division into religious groups was 590,890 Muslims, 83,794 Jews, 73,024 Christians, 7,028 Druze, 408 Sikhs, 265 Baháʼís, 156 Metawalis, and 163 Samaritans.[2]

 

[Roudy]

It was Canaan long before there were any Jews. Palestine was a province of Syria and the Jebusite city became Jerusalem.

It was also part of the Akkadian Empire long before Abraham who was also a Canaanite from Urfa near Haran in Syria.

Since there were no Palestinians back then, Canaanite’s are closest to the Jews not Palestinians, dipshit. How many times do you have to get corrected.

When the first Hebrews arrived in Canaan they shared the land but did not intermarry, as it was an interdiction for Avraham's family to marry the Canaanites. Nevertheless, eleven of the twelve sons of Yakov married Canaanite women (the other son married an Egyptian), and since then, the Tribes of Israel began to mix with the local inhabitants. After the Exodus, when the Israelites conquered the Land, there were some wars between them and the Canaanites throughout the period of the Sofetim (Judges), and were definitively subdued by King David. By that time, most Canaanites were married to Israelites, others voluntarily accepted Torah becoming Israelites, others joined up in the Israelite or Judahite army. Actually, the Canaanites are seldom mentioned during the Kings' period, usually in reference to their heathen customs introduced among the Israelites, but no longer as a distinguishable people, because they were indeed assimilated into the Israelite nation. When the Assyrians overran the Kingdom of Israel, they did not leave any Canaanite aside, as they had all become Israelites by that time. The same happened when the Babylonians overthrew the Kingdom of Judah.
Therefore, the only people that can trace back a lineage to the ancient Canaanites are the Jews, not the Palestinians, as Canaanites did not exist any longer after the 8th century b.c.e. and they were not annihilated but assimilated into the Jewish people.
Conclusion: the Palestinians cannot claim any descent from the ancient Canaanites - if so, why not to pretend also the Syrian "occupied territories", namely, Lebanon? Why do they not speak the language of the ancient Canaanites, that was Hebrew? Because they are NOT Canaanites at all!