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[PaintMyHouse]

I just expanded on your logic, why waste money then on fetuses with birth defects?

We shouldn't, they should be aborted, especially trisomes. We already have too many healthy children to care for without additional sick ones.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I think a lot of women who are getting abortions may be drug addicts, alcoholics, etc. too. Are you conservatives ready to pay for these drug addicted babies and their medical care and their hospital stays. These are unwanted children. Their own "moms" (if that is what you would call them) do not want them, and you want to make these women give birth? Oh yeah, GREEAAAT idea.

By your logic we should screen the unborn for defects and kill any who would be a financial burden. If only we could screen for addictions we could kill those unborn too and nip the problem right in the bud. Ooops.

Nice straw man. Perhaps you should try concentrating on what I actually said. Are you willing to pay for these unwanted children's upbringings, as they reside in state custody or foster homes?

You suggested that helpless human fetuses should be killed because nobody is willing to pay for the drug addicted mom and baby's medical care and hospital stays. I just expanded on your logic, why waste money then on fetuses with birth defects? Your attempt to excuse abortion puts you on a very slippery slope.

Because those babies are WANTED by their parents. It is up to the potential parent whether or not they will become a parent, not you!

Only if they have means, and that's no mean feat.

 

[BluesLegend]

I think a lot of women who are getting abortions may be drug addicts, alcoholics, etc. too. Are you conservatives ready to pay for these drug addicted babies and their medical care and their hospital stays. These are unwanted children. Their own "moms" (if that is what you would call them) do not want them, and you want to make these women give birth? Oh yeah, GREEAAAT idea.

By your logic we should screen the unborn for defects and kill any who would be a financial burden. If only we could screen for addictions we could kill those unborn too and nip the problem right in the bud. Ooops.

No one said that. Ooops.

You are just uncomfortable with people pointing out the horror of abortion and poking holes in the excuses you tell yourself to make it seem okay to kill a helpless human life in the womb.

No, I am just a person who tries to take on a realistic perspective of the world around me. I don't think it is a good idea to force women, who may not be very good people, to have babies.

Also, I find it rather hypocritical that a lot of conservatives would like to force women to have babies but then have NO plans on how to care for all of these unwanted babies.

I'm not in favor of forcing women to do anything. What I do emphatically oppose is the sugar coating of abortion with descriptions like "pro choice" and desensitizing abortion like destroying a human life is no big deal, like having a mole removed.

 

[ChrisL]

I think a lot of women who are getting abortions may be drug addicts, alcoholics, etc. too. Are you conservatives ready to pay for these drug addicted babies and their medical care and their hospital stays. These are unwanted children. Their own "moms" (if that is what you would call them) do not want them, and you want to make these women give birth? Oh yeah, GREEAAAT idea.

By your logic we should screen the unborn for defects and kill any who would be a financial burden. If only we could screen for addictions we could kill those unborn too and nip the problem right in the bud. Ooops.

No one said that. Ooops.

You are just uncomfortable with people pointing out the horror of abortion and poking holes in the excuses you tell yourself to make it seem okay to kill a helpless human life in the womb.

No, I am just a person who tries to take on a realistic perspective of the world around me. I don't think it is a good idea to force women, who may not be very good people, to have babies.

Also, I find it rather hypocritical that a lot of conservatives would like to force women to have babies but then have NO plans on how to care for all of these unwanted babies.

I'm not in favor of forcing women to do anything. What I do emphatically oppose is the sugar coating of abortion with descriptions like "pro choice" and desensitizing abortion like destroying a human life is no big deal, like having a mole removed.

I totally agree with that. If you are going to abort your pregnancy, then you should own that and it should not be taken lightly. I also find it annoying when people refer to it as a "tumor" or whatever.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I think a lot of women who are getting abortions may be drug addicts, alcoholics, etc. too. Are you conservatives ready to pay for these drug addicted babies and their medical care and their hospital stays. These are unwanted children. Their own "moms" (if that is what you would call them) do not want them, and you want to make these women give birth? Oh yeah, GREEAAAT idea.

By your logic we should screen the unborn for defects and kill any who would be a financial burden. If only we could screen for addictions we could kill those unborn too and nip the problem right in the bud. Ooops.

No one said that. Ooops.

You are just uncomfortable with people pointing out the horror of abortion and poking holes in the excuses you tell yourself to make it seem okay to kill a helpless human life in the womb.

No, I am just a person who tries to take on a realistic perspective of the world around me. I don't think it is a good idea to force women, who may not be very good people, to have babies.

Also, I find it rather hypocritical that a lot of conservatives would like to force women to have babies but then have NO plans on how to care for all of these unwanted babies.

I'm not in favor of forcing women to do anything. What I do emphatically oppose is the sugar coating of abortion with descriptions like "pro choice" and desensitizing abortion like destroying a human life is no big deal, like having a mole removed.

Bigger than a mole, but not more important at that stage. That, takes time, and luck.

 

[BluesLegend]

I just expanded on your logic, why waste money then on fetuses with birth defects?

We shouldn't, they should be aborted, especially trisomes. We already have too many healthy children to care for without additional sick ones.

Reminder: I ignore your stupid posts.

I think a lot of women who are getting abortions may be drug addicts, alcoholics, etc. too. Are you conservatives ready to pay for these drug addicted babies and their medical care and their hospital stays. These are unwanted children. Their own "moms" (if that is what you would call them) do not want them, and you want to make these women give birth? Oh yeah, GREEAAAT idea.

By your logic we should screen the unborn for defects and kill any who would be a financial burden. If only we could screen for addictions we could kill those unborn too and nip the problem right in the bud. Ooops.

Nice straw man. Perhaps you should try concentrating on what I actually said. Are you willing to pay for these unwanted children's upbringings, as they reside in state custody or foster homes?

You suggested that helpless human fetuses should be killed because nobody is willing to pay for the drug addicted mom and baby's medical care and hospital stays. I just expanded on your logic, why waste money then on fetuses with birth defects? Your attempt to excuse abortion puts you on a very slippery slope.

Because those babies are WANTED by their parents. It is up to the potential parent whether or not they will become a parent, not you!

You are in free fall on this slippery slope now, so the bar should be if you don't want the baby just kill it in the womb? Does the mom have no responsibility to the fetus for getting pregnant in the first place?

 

[ChrisL]

I just expanded on your logic, why waste money then on fetuses with birth defects?

We shouldn't, they should be aborted, especially trisomes. We already have too many healthy children to care for without additional sick ones.

Reminder: I ignore your stupid posts.

I think a lot of women who are getting abortions may be drug addicts, alcoholics, etc. too. Are you conservatives ready to pay for these drug addicted babies and their medical care and their hospital stays. These are unwanted children. Their own "moms" (if that is what you would call them) do not want them, and you want to make these women give birth? Oh yeah, GREEAAAT idea.

By your logic we should screen the unborn for defects and kill any who would be a financial burden. If only we could screen for addictions we could kill those unborn too and nip the problem right in the bud. Ooops.

Nice straw man. Perhaps you should try concentrating on what I actually said. Are you willing to pay for these unwanted children's upbringings, as they reside in state custody or foster homes?

You suggested that helpless human fetuses should be killed because nobody is willing to pay for the drug addicted mom and baby's medical care and hospital stays. I just expanded on your logic, why waste money then on fetuses with birth defects? Your attempt to excuse abortion puts you on a very slippery slope.

Because those babies are WANTED by their parents. It is up to the potential parent whether or not they will become a parent, not you!

You are in free fall on this slippery slope now, so the bar should be if you don't want the baby just kill it in the womb? Does the mom have no responsibility to the fetus for getting pregnant in the first place?

Sadly, no, some women do not. Some people are drug addicts, some are just not very good people, etc. I'm sure some have perfectly legitimate reasons too. My point being, it's really not MY business. If it was someone I know or a family member of mine, then that's a little different. I feel then I would have some advice to give, but still not my place to force a pregnancy or a baby on another person. It's their decision. If they want to do that and live with that, that's on them. The people who actually want to be parents and would be good parents won't be aborting their children.

 

[BluesLegend]

I just expanded on your logic, why waste money then on fetuses with birth defects?

We shouldn't, they should be aborted, especially trisomes. We already have too many healthy children to care for without additional sick ones.

Reminder: I ignore your stupid posts.

I think a lot of women who are getting abortions may be drug addicts, alcoholics, etc. too. Are you conservatives ready to pay for these drug addicted babies and their medical care and their hospital stays. These are unwanted children. Their own "moms" (if that is what you would call them) do not want them, and you want to make these women give birth? Oh yeah, GREEAAAT idea.

By your logic we should screen the unborn for defects and kill any who would be a financial burden. If only we could screen for addictions we could kill those unborn too and nip the problem right in the bud. Ooops.

No one said that. Ooops.

You are just uncomfortable with people pointing out the horror of abortion and poking holes in the excuses you tell yourself to make it seem okay to kill a helpless human life in the womb.

BTW, I really do not consider a fertilized egg or an embryo to be a person. They are POTENTIAL people, but at the time when they are an egg or an embryo, they are just that - an egg or an embryo. I would certainly not, however, be against shrinking the time period in which a person would be allowed to abort the child. I would be fine with limiting it to the 1st trimester of the pregnancy unless there is a life threatening or altering complication. I think by the end of the 1st trimester, a person should have decided.

Yes there is common ground for terminating a pregnancy very early on. I would not argue over a couple dozen cells that have divided. But over 100,000 2nd trimester abortions a year? Disturbing.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Reminder: I ignore your stupid posts.

You ignore reality, not my concern, and there are many solutions to abortion, you just don't approve of most of them since it means unmarried women can still fuck...

 

[ChrisL]

I just expanded on your logic, why waste money then on fetuses with birth defects?

We shouldn't, they should be aborted, especially trisomes. We already have too many healthy children to care for without additional sick ones.

Reminder: I ignore your stupid posts.

I think a lot of women who are getting abortions may be drug addicts, alcoholics, etc. too. Are you conservatives ready to pay for these drug addicted babies and their medical care and their hospital stays. These are unwanted children. Their own "moms" (if that is what you would call them) do not want them, and you want to make these women give birth? Oh yeah, GREEAAAT idea.

By your logic we should screen the unborn for defects and kill any who would be a financial burden. If only we could screen for addictions we could kill those unborn too and nip the problem right in the bud. Ooops.

No one said that. Ooops.

You are just uncomfortable with people pointing out the horror of abortion and poking holes in the excuses you tell yourself to make it seem okay to kill a helpless human life in the womb.

BTW, I really do not consider a fertilized egg or an embryo to be a person. They are POTENTIAL people, but at the time when they are an egg or an embryo, they are just that - an egg or an embryo. I would certainly not, however, be against shrinking the time period in which a person would be allowed to abort the child. I would be fine with limiting it to the 1st trimester of the pregnancy unless there is a life threatening or altering complication. I think by the end of the 1st trimester, a person should have decided.

Yes there is common ground for terminating a pregnancy very early on. I would not argue over a couple dozen cells that have divided. But over 100,000 2nd trimester abortions a year? Disturbing.

The numbers are incredibly high. I don't know who all these people are, but relatively speaking that is not an extremely large number considering we are a country of over 300 million people.

 

[BluesLegend]

By your logic we should screen the unborn for defects and kill any who would be a financial burden. If only we could screen for addictions we could kill those unborn too and nip the problem right in the bud. Ooops.

No one said that. Ooops.

You are just uncomfortable with people pointing out the horror of abortion and poking holes in the excuses you tell yourself to make it seem okay to kill a helpless human life in the womb.

No, I am just a person who tries to take on a realistic perspective of the world around me. I don't think it is a good idea to force women, who may not be very good people, to have babies.

Also, I find it rather hypocritical that a lot of conservatives would like to force women to have babies but then have NO plans on how to care for all of these unwanted babies.

I'm not in favor of forcing women to do anything. What I do emphatically oppose is the sugar coating of abortion with descriptions like "pro choice" and desensitizing abortion like destroying a human life is no big deal, like having a mole removed.

I totally agree with that. If you are going to abort your pregnancy, then you should own that and it should not be taken lightly. I also find it annoying when people refer to it as a "tumor" or whatever.

We agree. A line has to be drawn somewhere and defended because there are those who will continue to push the boundaries on abortion and continue to attempt to desensitize us to abortion by calling a fetus a tumor.

 

[BluesLegend]

By your logic we should screen the unborn for defects and kill any who would be a financial burden. If only we could screen for addictions we could kill those unborn too and nip the problem right in the bud. Ooops.

No one said that. Ooops.

You are just uncomfortable with people pointing out the horror of abortion and poking holes in the excuses you tell yourself to make it seem okay to kill a helpless human life in the womb.

No, I am just a person who tries to take on a realistic perspective of the world around me. I don't think it is a good idea to force women, who may not be very good people, to have babies.

Also, I find it rather hypocritical that a lot of conservatives would like to force women to have babies but then have NO plans on how to care for all of these unwanted babies.

I'm not in favor of forcing women to do anything. What I do emphatically oppose is the sugar coating of abortion with descriptions like "pro choice" and desensitizing abortion like destroying a human life is no big deal, like having a mole removed.

Bigger than a mole, but not more important at that stage. That, takes time, and luck.

Look fool adults are trying to have a conservation, why don't you wander back to the kids table where you belong.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

No one said that. Ooops.

You are just uncomfortable with people pointing out the horror of abortion and poking holes in the excuses you tell yourself to make it seem okay to kill a helpless human life in the womb.

No, I am just a person who tries to take on a realistic perspective of the world around me. I don't think it is a good idea to force women, who may not be very good people, to have babies.

Also, I find it rather hypocritical that a lot of conservatives would like to force women to have babies but then have NO plans on how to care for all of these unwanted babies.

I'm not in favor of forcing women to do anything. What I do emphatically oppose is the sugar coating of abortion with descriptions like "pro choice" and desensitizing abortion like destroying a human life is no big deal, like having a mole removed.

I totally agree with that. If you are going to abort your pregnancy, then you should own that and it should not be taken lightly. I also find it annoying when people refer to it as a "tumor" or whatever.

We agree. A line has to be drawn somewhere and defended because there are those who will continue to push the boundaries on abortion and continue to attempt to desensitize us to abortion by calling a fetus a tumor.

A fetus is a fetus, dumbass...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

No one said that. Ooops.

You are just uncomfortable with people pointing out the horror of abortion and poking holes in the excuses you tell yourself to make it seem okay to kill a helpless human life in the womb.

No, I am just a person who tries to take on a realistic perspective of the world around me. I don't think it is a good idea to force women, who may not be very good people, to have babies.

Also, I find it rather hypocritical that a lot of conservatives would like to force women to have babies but then have NO plans on how to care for all of these unwanted babies.

I'm not in favor of forcing women to do anything. What I do emphatically oppose is the sugar coating of abortion with descriptions like "pro choice" and desensitizing abortion like destroying a human life is no big deal, like having a mole removed.

Bigger than a mole, but not more important at that stage. That, takes time, and luck.

Look fool adults are trying to have a conservation, why don't you wander back to the kids table where you belong.

You aren't an adult so don't offend one, meaning me, who is. You can't be rational, and I can.

 

[BluesLegend]

I just expanded on your logic, why waste money then on fetuses with birth defects?

We shouldn't, they should be aborted, especially trisomes. We already have too many healthy children to care for without additional sick ones.

Reminder: I ignore your stupid posts.

By your logic we should screen the unborn for defects and kill any who would be a financial burden. If only we could screen for addictions we could kill those unborn too and nip the problem right in the bud. Ooops.

Nice straw man. Perhaps you should try concentrating on what I actually said. Are you willing to pay for these unwanted children's upbringings, as they reside in state custody or foster homes?

You suggested that helpless human fetuses should be killed because nobody is willing to pay for the drug addicted mom and baby's medical care and hospital stays. I just expanded on your logic, why waste money then on fetuses with birth defects? Your attempt to excuse abortion puts you on a very slippery slope.

Because those babies are WANTED by their parents. It is up to the potential parent whether or not they will become a parent, not you!

You are in free fall on this slippery slope now, so the bar should be if you don't want the baby just kill it in the womb? Does the mom have no responsibility to the fetus for getting pregnant in the first place?

Sadly, no, some women do not. Some people are drug addicts, some are just not very good people, etc. I'm sure some have perfectly legitimate reasons too. My point being, it's really not MY business. If it was someone I know or a family member of mine, then that's a little different. I feel then I would have some advice to give, but still not my place to force a pregnancy or a baby on another person. It's their decision. If they want to do that and live with that, that's on them. The people who actually want to be parents and would be good parents won't be aborting their children.

I fully agree its their decision. On the other hand I become unwillingly involved when the government uses my money to fund abortions. I'm not against providing funding for women in genuine need financially, but elements within government go too far in promoting abortion and desensitizing women to the procedure, in my opinion.

 

[BluesLegend]

Reminder: I ignore your stupid posts.

You ignore reality, not my concern, and there are many solutions to abortion, you just don't approve of most of them since it means unmarried women can still fuck...

You must be really desperate to attempt to engage me in a discussion. Let me guess most people have you on ignore, shocker.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Reminder: I ignore your stupid posts.

You ignore reality, not my concern, and there are many solutions to abortion, you just don't approve of most of them since it means unmarried women can still fuck...

You must be really desperate to attempt to engage me in a discussion. Let me guess most people have you on ignore, shocker.

I don't post for you, you stupid bitch. This is a Public Forum, lean what that means.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

On the other hand I become unwillingly involved when the government uses my money to fund abortions.

Which doesn't happen, by law, you goddamn idiot...

 

[TemplarKormac]

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Here you go BL, your child has arrived.