Where are the job bills?

[MJMavro13]

The government can and does create jobs. Saying government does not is bullshit propaganda, believing it does not is stupidity.

Proof? Sure! The United States Navy; employs officers and enisted personnel; uses products and services from the private sector to feed and cloth its employees; said employees spent their earnings on products and services sold by the private sector in shops which surround all naval facitites.

Countless examples to disprove the canard the government can't create jobs. Stupid people believe it, liars continue to post it.

More proof? Why bother. Non liars and thinking people get it.

When you compare military employment to other government employment (job creations) you are comparing apple to oranges and it doesn't work. The military is one of the few primary purposes of government. The majority of the other programs of so called job creation are not. So please, before you speak about lying or BS propaganda, clean up your own points of debate!

 

[Mad Scientist]

The government can and does create jobs. Saying government does not is bullshit propaganda, believing it does not is stupidity.

Proof? Sure! The United States Navy; employs officers and enisted personnel; uses products and services from the private sector to feed and cloth its employees; said employees spent their earnings on products and services sold by the private sector in shops which surround all naval facitites.

Countless examples to disprove the canard the government can't create jobs. Stupid people believe it, liars continue to post it.

More proof? Why bother. Non liars and thinking people get it.

Thanks for the typical Liberal condescension. You're smarter than everyone. We got it.

 

[Vanquish]

I guess the Democrats have been given their new lines to parrot.

I hope they learn to parrot much better than they have in the past. I've gotta for the Republicans on that one. They know how to take a simple meme and pound it until they get traction with it.

Where are the jobs? Where are the jobs? Where are the jobs? Where are the jobs? Where are the jobs? Where are the jobs? Where are the jobs? Where are the jobs? Where are the jobs? Where are the jobs? Where are the jobs? Where are the jobs? Where are the jobs? Where are the jobs? Where are the jobs?

 

[Oddball]

It DOES crack me up that so many of the people who like to tell us that

"The government does not create jobs"

have themselves never worked for any private business in their adult lifetimes.

They are in the military, or they are retired. They work for the DoD as civilians, or they work for HSA, or they work for a corporation that does most of its business selling stuff to the GOVERNMENT.

But THEY insist that THEY understand CAPITALISM< so well.

Except they've never lived in a capitalist society, as they have never had a capitalist JOB.

This board is rife with those kind of pro-capitalist SERVANTS of the GOVERMENT.

Everybody BUT THEM needs to bite the bullet for CAPITALISM while they, like their fathers before them, and their children when they're old enough, will suck off the government teat their entire lives.

Dude....That was a post more worthy of mascale.

You wanna try that again?

 

[Trajan]

"Washington &#8211; House GOP leaders are rushing a vote to ban all federal funding for NPR in an effort to reforge party unity a day after it splintered badly.

Fifty-four conservatives defected Tuesday to vote against a spending bill that would forestall a government shutdown for three weeks that they felt didn't go far enough to cut spending. But there is little chance of House Republican leaders losing votes in its bid to kill funding for NPR &#8211; the third such vote in weeks. The issue has been a rallying point among conservatives for decades.

Earlier this month, conservative activists released a video purporting to show NPR fundraiser Ron Schiller calling tea partyers "seriously racist" and saying that despite potential damage to smaller stations, "Frankly, it is very clear that we would be better off in the long run without federal funding." In the subsequent outcry, Mr. Schiller left NPR and the organization's president, Vivian Schiller (no relation) resigned. (The full video, subsequently released, shows that Mr. Schiller's comments were selectively edited.)"

Ful article: Why House Republicans are rushing to slash NPR funding - Yahoo! News

And now the neo-cons want to attack another oil rich country (Libya).

The GOP overreaching? You betcha. 2012 will remake the political landscape once again.

like the economic debate, his vacation is ...

 

[Trajan]

"Washington – House GOP leaders are rushing a vote to ban all federal funding for NPR in an effort to reforge party unity a day after it splintered badly.

Fifty-four conservatives defected Tuesday to vote against a spending bill that would forestall a government shutdown for three weeks that they felt didn't go far enough to cut spending. But there is little chance of House Republican leaders losing votes in its bid to kill funding for NPR – the third such vote in weeks. The issue has been a rallying point among conservatives for decades.

Earlier this month, conservative activists released a video purporting to show NPR fundraiser Ron Schiller calling tea partyers "seriously racist" and saying that despite potential damage to smaller stations, "Frankly, it is very clear that we would be better off in the long run without federal funding." In the subsequent outcry, Mr. Schiller left NPR and the organization's president, Vivian Schiller (no relation) resigned. (The full video, subsequently released, shows that Mr. Schiller's comments were selectively edited.)"

Ful article: Why House Republicans are rushing to slash NPR funding - Yahoo! News

And now the neo-cons want to attack another oil rich country (Libya).

The GOP overreaching? You betcha. 2012 will remake the political landscape once again.

President Obama pivots to jobs as key theme

By MIKE ALLEN | 1/8/10 6:42 AM EDT

President Obama pivots to jobs as key theme - Mike Allen - POLITICO.com

 

[Bern80]

It DOES crack me up that so many of the people who like to tell us that

"The government does not create jobs"

have themselves never worked for any private business in their adult lifetimes.

They are in the military, or they are retired. They work for the DoD as civilians, or they work for HSA, or they work for a corporation that does most of its business selling stuff to the GOVERNMENT.

But THEY insist that THEY understand CAPITALISM< so well.

Except they've never lived in a capitalist society, as they have never had a capitalist JOB.

This board is rife with those kind of pro-capitalist SERVANTS of the GOVERMENT.

Everybody BUT THEM needs to bite the bullet for CAPITALISM while they, like their fathers before them, and their children when they're old enough, will suck off the government teat their entire lives.

So many? Like who specifically? Strawman if ever there was one, ed.

What cracks me up about 'all these people' is that they think a job is just supposed to land in their lap. That there is no responsibility on their part for finding one. Contrary to popular opinion there is no shortage of jobs in this country. Not from where I'm sitting anyway. I get sent dozens of job openings on a DAily basis. The shortage is in people with the skills to do those jobs. But apparently it isn't the responsibility of the individual who wants a job to obtain the skills necessary for the jobs avialable. No, no the government is somehow supposed to magically create demand for a product or service that fits the skill set of the person who wants a job.

Liberals wouldn't know a bill meant to create jobs if it bit them in the ass. A bill to create jobs, would lower taxes on business, get rid of unnecessary regulation on business, make it easier for people to start a business. The public sector can't create jobs, not ones that will sustain and grow an economy anyway. They can only make it as easy as possible for the private sector to do so.

 

[Toronado3800]

Public sector creates and maintains what the private sector finds undesireable to do. Want to mail a letter to Anchorage for fifty cents? For example, when some utilities become sorta profitable the private sector buys them up. Then asks for government handouts to build power plants.

 

[Ravi]

Where are the job bills?

I think they are with the WMDs.

You didn't think they were seriously committed to helping get Americans back to work, did you?

 

[Avatar4321]

You know it's really a sad commentary on our society when people think that by passing a bill they label a "jobs bill" that jobs will magically appear. It's like thinking that passing a law changing the law of gravity will actually have an effect.

 

[Flagwavrusa]

The government can and does create jobs. Saying government does not is bullshit propaganda, believing it does not is stupidity.

Proof? Sure! The United States Navy; employs officers and enisted personnel; uses products and services from the private sector to feed and cloth its employees; said employees spent their earnings on products and services sold by the private sector in shops which surround all naval facitites.

Countless examples to disprove the canard the government can't create jobs. Stupid people believe it, liars continue to post it.

More proof? Why bother. Non liars and thinking people get it.

A street beggar receives a 'gift' from a productive citizen and spends it to feed or clothe himself. This represents the economic function of many civil service jobs. Too many bureaucrats, including from the Department of Homeland Security, receive inflated salaries and exorbitant benefits packages to do no productive work. Many times they have been caught spending their working hours online watching porn or posting to message to boards.

Hundreds of thousands of these people could be culled from the federal payrolls to reduce taxes and pay off debt. This would allow citizens from the private sector to spend their savings on things to improve their lives, and former bureaucrats could then be employed serving a useful purpose providing the goods and services that people actually want.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The government can and does create jobs. Saying government does not is bullshit propaganda, believing it does not is stupidity.

Proof? Sure! The United States Navy; employs officers and enisted personnel; uses products and services from the private sector to feed and cloth its employees; said employees spent their earnings on products and services sold by the private sector in shops which surround all naval facitites.

Countless examples to disprove the canard the government can't create jobs. Stupid people believe it, liars continue to post it.

More proof? Why bother. Non liars and thinking people get it.

When you compare military employment to other government employment (job creations) you are comparing apple to oranges and it doesn't work. The military is one of the few primary purposes of government. The majority of the other programs of so called job creation are not. So please, before you speak about lying or BS propaganda, clean up your own points of debate!

Will do. Let's take President Eisenhower's support for the Federal Highway Act of 1956, shall we. How many jobs were created in building our nations highway system, how much wealth was created by buidling and maintaining these roadways as well as Lincoln's support for the transcontinental RR. Neither project was a primary purpose of government? (whatever the hell that means).

If one speaks of the 'primary' purpose of government they might do well to define the term. I look forward to reading what the "primary purpose of government" is as well as what is and what is not such a purpose.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The government can and does create jobs. Saying government does not is bullshit propaganda, believing it does not is stupidity.

Proof? Sure! The United States Navy; employs officers and enisted personnel; uses products and services from the private sector to feed and cloth its employees; said employees spent their earnings on products and services sold by the private sector in shops which surround all naval facitites.

Countless examples to disprove the canard the government can't create jobs. Stupid people believe it, liars continue to post it.

More proof? Why bother. Non liars and thinking people get it.

A street beggar receives a 'gift' from a productive citizen and spends it to feed or clothe himself. This represents the economic function of many civil service jobs. Too many bureaucrats, including from the Department of Homeland Security, receive inflated salaries and exorbitant benefits packages to do no productive work. Many times they have been caught spending their working hours online watching porn or posting to message to boards.

Hundreds of thousands of these people could be culled from the federal payrolls to reduce taxes and pay off debt. This would allow citizens from the private sector to spend their savings on things to improve their lives, and former bureaucrats could then be employed serving a useful purpose providing the goods and services that people actually want.

A prime example of someone who has few facts at their disposal failing to understand a problem and offering a simple solution. A solution that is nothing more than a parroted response of the ubiquitous propaganda from the conservative fringe of the GOP.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The government can and does create jobs. Saying government does not is bullshit propaganda, believing it does not is stupidity.

Proof? Sure! The United States Navy; employs officers and enisted personnel; uses products and services from the private sector to feed and cloth its employees; said employees spent their earnings on products and services sold by the private sector in shops which surround all naval facitites.

Countless examples to disprove the canard the government can't create jobs. Stupid people believe it, liars continue to post it.

More proof? Why bother. Non liars and thinking people get it.

Thanks for the typical Liberal condescension. You're smarter than everyone. We got it.

Not everyone. I do read and consider your posts in the hopes you may someday post something of substance. Using "Liberal" is incorrect for their is no "Liberal" party in America; and "liberal" itself has become a pejorative and as such no longer holds and meaning of signifigance.
As for my being condescending that maybe true; pointing out stupidity and mendacity may be taken that way (appropriately) by the stupid and dishonest. And in fact why should I care for they deserve, respectively, our pity or our wrath.

 

[Samson]

A prime example of someone who has few facts at their disposal failing to understand a problem and offering a simple solution. A solution that is nothing more than a parroted response of the ubiquitous propaganda from the conservative fringe of the GOP.

Speaking of Parrots......

Kinda like starting a thread titled: Where are the Job Bills? a couple of years after the $700 B Recovery Act and Unemployment holding at 9%.

What a trite, moronic charactature you are.

 

[Wry Catcher]

A prime example of someone who has few facts at their disposal failing to understand a problem and offering a simple solution. A solution that is nothing more than a parroted response of the ubiquitous propaganda from the conservative fringe of the GOP.

Speaking of Parrots......

Kinda like starting a thread titled: Where are the Job Bills? a couple of years after the $700 B Recovery Act and Unemployment holding at 9%.

What a trite, moronic charactature you are.

Thanks for sharing, I read you posts too. Not that you have ever posted anything of substance. You and Odd-dude are classic 'glibers'. As you have been told several times glib comments accented with emoticons are, "readily fluent, often thoughtlessly, superficially, or insincerely so".

 

[Flagwavrusa]

The government can and does create jobs. Saying government does not is bullshit propaganda, believing it does not is stupidity.

Proof? Sure! The United States Navy; employs officers and enisted personnel; uses products and services from the private sector to feed and cloth its employees; said employees spent their earnings on products and services sold by the private sector in shops which surround all naval facitites.

Countless examples to disprove the canard the government can't create jobs. Stupid people believe it, liars continue to post it.

More proof? Why bother. Non liars and thinking people get it.

A street beggar receives a 'gift' from a productive citizen and spends it to feed or clothe himself. This represents the economic function of many civil service jobs. Too many bureaucrats, including from the Department of Homeland Security, receive inflated salaries and exorbitant benefits packages to do no productive work. Many times they have been caught spending their working hours online watching porn or posting to message to boards.

Hundreds of thousands of these people could be culled from the federal payrolls to reduce taxes and pay off debt. This would allow citizens from the private sector to spend their savings on things to improve their lives, and former bureaucrats could then be employed serving a useful purpose providing the goods and services that people actually want.


A prime example of someone who has few facts at their disposal failing to understand a problem and offering a simple solution. A solution that is nothing more than a parroted response of the ubiquitous propaganda from the conservative fringe of the GOP.

I made it simple so liberals such as yourself might have a chance of understanding why government spending does not lead to prosperity and higher employment. A point that should be obvious but if you want the long explanation check out Capitalism and Freedom by Milton Friedman, assuming you are not a typical libtard and know how to read beyond 3rd grade level.

 

[Wry Catcher]

A street beggar receives a 'gift' from a productive citizen and spends it to feed or clothe himself. This represents the economic function of many civil service jobs. Too many bureaucrats, including from the Department of Homeland Security, receive inflated salaries and exorbitant benefits packages to do no productive work. Many times they have been caught spending their working hours online watching porn or posting to message to boards.

Hundreds of thousands of these people could be culled from the federal payrolls to reduce taxes and pay off debt. This would allow citizens from the private sector to spend their savings on things to improve their lives, and former bureaucrats could then be employed serving a useful purpose providing the goods and services that people actually want.


A prime example of someone who has few facts at their disposal failing to understand a problem and offering a simple solution. A solution that is nothing more than a parroted response of the ubiquitous propaganda from the conservative fringe of the GOP.

I made it simple so liberals such as yourself might have a chance of understanding why government spending does not lead to prosperity and higher employment. A point that should be obvious but if you want the long explanation check out Capitalism and Freedom by Milton Friedman, assuming you are not a typical libtard and know how to read beyond 3rd grade level.

Way to simple, simple never really cuts it. It would be convenient if every problem or issue came in a kit containing all the information necessary to solve it. Sadly they don't. Well, if one listens to Rush Limbaugh or Newt Gingrich or other leaders of the GOP some believe it is possible.

Lincoln said it best, you can fool some of the people all of the time. Kinda cool, President Lincoln was speaking directly to you.

 

[Oddball]

Speaking of being fooled, who says gubmint is there to to solve all the world's problems?

 

[Samson]

Speaking of being fooled, who says gubmint is there to to solve all the world's problems?

Government Bureaucrats.