dilloduck
Diamond Member
It's only free for Jews and the token Arabs.
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Originally posted by Comrade
Bah. I said before and I'll say it again, it's a fact these rights exist for all equally among Isreali citizens. Palestine and the rest of the Arab states don't have them, period.
Whatever your point was, again you won't admit Isreal is in fact a free society and works well for all concerned. You've ignored this statement from me as if it's just impossible to grasp. Why don't you go to Isreal and hang out near a mosque and watch people enter without fear or concern for their safety.
Originally posted by Comrade
If Jews are experts at making people hate them, well obviously they were asking for the holocaust, right?
Now the cries of anti-Semitism as an appeal for pity didn't work in the gas chambers. It doesn't work to protect Isreal. It doesn't work to influence the UN. It doesn't work to help stop the bombings. In fact, nobody feels sorry for the Jews anymore, and defending Isreal is no longer something the world generally tries to achieve.
Isreal stopped expecting pity from others long ago, and actually defended themselves as a free state while most either stood by or assisted the Arab dictators.
And now you say Isreal's nukes are unjustified, as if they are unnecessary or even dangerous in their hands over the last 30 years.
There is no pity for their civilian deaths from suicide bombers and nobody backs it's right to exist. In fact you either respect Isreal or you hate it. Nobody pities Jews in Isreal anymore.
And it's not about Jews, when a secular Liberal democracy is what you should hate. And I've said enough about how the racist accusation is just plain dumb.
Originally posted by Merlin1047
Originally posted by dilloduck
Originally posted by Dillduck
Merlins post pretty much sums up my postion too. I didn't say that Israels nukes are unjustified and I'm not sure any countries are but they are there and since they are I think Israel should at least acknowledge them. We don't trust muslim countries to not use nukes. Should they simply trust Israel ? America is the country caught in the middle here and we can become victims of rogue states having nukes too. Israels behavior has made it dangerous for America to support it but America has hung in there for ya. Can ya be just a little flexible in appreciation of our support?
Are you insinuating that Israel is a rogue state?
Israel acknowledges that they have the capabilities to defend themselves from attacks by any rogue states.
No body is saying that America should not be credited with supporting their only friendly nation in the entire Middle East. Israel's behavior has not made it one iota more dangerous for America, that old canard is the mantra of Islam.
America without an Israeli ally would be no more loved or respected by the Islamic world than Muhammad would have been had he not made love to little girl children.
Give both America and Israel a little slack.
Originally posted by ajwps
Originally posted by Dillduck
Merlins post pretty much sums up my postion too. I didn't say that Israels nukes are unjustified and I'm not sure any countries are but they are there and since they are I think Israel should at least acknowledge them. We don't trust muslim countries to not use nukes. Should they simply trust Israel ? America is the country caught in the middle here and we can become victims of rogue states having nukes too. Israels behavior has made it dangerous for America to support it but America has hung in there for ya. Can ya be just a little flexible in appreciation of our support?
Are you insinuating that Israel is a rogue state?
Israel acknowledges that they have the capabilities to defend themselves from attacks by any rogue states.
No body is saying that America should not be credited with supporting their only friendly nation in the entire Middle East. Israel's behavior has not made it one iota more dangerous for America, that old canard is the mantra of Islam.
America without an Israeli ally would be no more loved or respected by the Islamic world than Muhammad would have been had he not made love to little girl children.
Give both America and Israel a little slack.
Easy, oh paranoid one !
no-- I was not insinuating that Israel was a rogue state but there are many who would say different.
America has other friends in the Middle East OTHER than Israel--you know better than that!
Our support for Israel IS a factor in making us a target of terrorism. Why do you think they burn both nations' flags together? Are they the only ones on sale at ALI-MART ?
OK I'm ready to see the slack that Israel offers America.
Originally posted by dilloduck
When Will The Arabs Make Peace With ISREAL?
Originally posted by José
Only the day ISREAL becomes UNREAL ; )
Originally posted by ajwps
I'm going to make one last attempt to have a rational discussion on this subject. Your counterpart AJWPS is a rabid zealot who screams accusations of racism as soon as anyone disagrees with his radical propogandist views. AJWPS is a person who contributes to anti-Semitism through his abrasive and hysterical rantings.
At last you are making one last attempt to make a rational discussion on this subject. You are both rational and measured at making self-serving judgements against whom you consider to be rabid zealots.
That really nice.......
Originally posted by ajwps
Re: When Will The Arabs Make Peace With Isreal?
Originally posted by nycflasher
a. when Hell freezes over
b. when they run out of suicide-bombers
c. when Sharon is gone
d. when Arafat is gone
e. Tear down the wall!
f. 5 years
g. 500 years
Feel free to add...
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:Originally posted by Merlin1047
okay.
h. When Jews and muslims sit down together at a pork barbeque picnic.
Originally posted by freeandfun1
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Originally posted by freeandfun1
they both can't eat pork..... so kinda funny when you think about it. Much more humerous than saying "when hell freezes over".
Originally posted by nycflasher
And nice one, Merlin.
Originally posted by nycflasher
Good to know that you got the joke.
And nice one, Merlin.
Originally posted by Merlin1047
okay.
h. When Jews and muslims sit down together at a pork barbeque picnic.