When the 'One-Term President' Strategy Fails

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    Marge Baker: When the 'One-Term President' Strategy Fails



    I think the Repugs are just all talk, they will budge because the far right stance cannot be held onto.
     
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    They didn't have a Plan B? Here's a clue. Make a deal to keep us from heading off the cliff. It can't be done by cuts alone. Ask most economists and they'll tell you so.
     
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    Explain.

    Let me get you started.

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    Fucking dumbass.
     
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    Here comes the EXCUSES for Obama's FAILURES..

    He could of dealt with all this when he had a majority of Democrats votes, instead he spent TWO YEARS shoving ANOTHER Socialist Government program on us..

    here is to all you Obama whiners, We will all meet at the bottom of the cliff...:eusa_boohoo:
     
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    SNIP:

    Look Who's Refusing To Compromise To Avoid The Fiscal Cliff

    Posted 11/13/2012 06:46 PM ET
    Budget Talks: If President Obama wants to get a deficit deal done to avoid the fiscal cliff, his biggest challenge won't be Republicans, but his own hard-core left-wing supporters.

    Two days after the election, Obama's favorite economist, Paul Krugman, set the tone for the intransigent left in a column titled: "Let's not make a deal." Boiled down, his advice to Obama was this: Don't give in to any Republican demands, even if doing so would "inflict damage on a still-shaky economy." After all, Obama would be better positioned to "weather any blowback from economic troubles."

    Krugman's advice may be disturbingly cold and calculating, but he has plenty of company on the left.

    Robert Kuttner, co-founder of the liberal American Prospect magazine, suggests Obama should just sit it out, let all the Bush tax cuts expire, the automatic spending cuts kick in and expect public pressure to force Republicans to give in entirely.

    The left-wing Daily Kos called any kind of "grand bargain" between Obama and the GOP a "Great Betrayal."

    And several Democratic lawmakers have suggested that the correct approach would be to let the country go over the fiscal cliff, since that will only strengthen Obama's position. "It's a hand Democrats are looking forward to playing," according to the liberal Huffington Post "news" site.

    And Republicans are supposed to be the ones who refuse to compromise?

    ALL of it here
    Read More At IBD: Look Who's Refusing To Compromise To Avoid Going Off The Fiscal Cliff - Investors.com
     
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    A little chest thumping by the members of the "Obama Nation Plantation", whose only ID necessary is their EBT card, and their rallying cry is "Where's our free stuff?"
    Logic and reason get tossed out the window when people think Santa Claus is in charge. A little economic collapse and national bankruptcy every now and then might be a good thing.
    Hugo Chavez manages to stay afloat because his Government feeds off the proceeds of the country's oil resources the way the Great Lakes Lamprey feeds off the sturgeon it attaches itself to. Hugo magnanamously solved Caracas' housing crisis by letting the homeless go up and down the streets of Caracas selecting the houses they preferred the most, then evicting the occupants out onto the streets and taking up residence inside themselves. The property owners were forced then to go, cap in hand, to the city fathers begging for whatever compensation the city would contribute.
    The foreseeable furture of our very own Parasite Nation.
     
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    They will never answer this, because it doesnt fit thier agenda. Or they will scream for defense cuts, not realizing that will kill hundreds of thousands of jobs, those good middle class jobs they always crow about.
     
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    In a market society it's also about perceptions. If people see the two sides working together to solve the problem, they feel better. When people feel better, they spend more money. When people are spending money, more jobs open up to meet the demand. When more people have jobs, more taxes are collected to fill the deficit gap. Basic economics that for some reason I have to repeat on a daily basis to people who claim to be knowledgeable capitalists. Why is that?!?! :eusa_eh:
     
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    The 'deal', of course, can be done by cuts alone, because the tax increase revenues in question here amount to a paltry 4-5% of the remedy to the problem.

    Not only is taxing the rich in this case a pimple on the debt elephant's ass, but enacting them assumes our Nation won't experience a NEGATIVE tax receipt growth from it, which is counter to what 'economists tell us.'


    Your best continues to be fail.
     
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    Sorry, but that extra 4% wouldn't effect corporations or most small businesses, where the jobs are created. I never said the money would close the gap, just that it would create an environment of optimism that something's being done with the market taking care of the rest. Your analysis doesn't take into account the interconnectedness of a free market economy. Time to get back to school and learn a little about the system you're supposedly defending.
     

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