What's wrong with this political philosophy?

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  1. DavidS
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    A completely cashless/valueless society. No money, no wealth... people work as they need to in order to fulfill their needs. You're free to pursue whatever line of work you wish to - as all of your basic needs will be met to allow you to achieve a higher level of existence. Where you work because you want to, not because you have to. So what's wrong with this philosophy?



     
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    Won't work, many jobs won't be done unless people get paid for them, and the money is transmuted into things they want or like.
     
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    Many jobs won't be relevant in a cashless society. And many new types of jobs will become relevant. People can't just sit around and do nothing while all of their needs such as food and shelter are being met.
     
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    So you would think, yet they did for centuries, we used to call them 'royalty'.
     
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    Whoa, there David... are you turning into some sort of Anarchist??
     
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    Let us finally imagine, for a change, an association of free men, working with the means of production held in common, and expending their many different forms of labour-power in full self-awareness as one single social labour force.

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    The total product of our imagined association is a social product. One part of this product serves as a fresh means of production and remains social. But another part is consumed by the members of the association as a means of subsistence. This part must therefore be divided amongst them. The way this division is made will vary with the particular kind of social organization of production and the corresponding level of social development attained by the producers. We shall assume, but only for the sake of a parallel with the production of commodities, that the share of each individual producer in the means of subsistence is determined by his labour-time. Labour-time would in that case play a double part. Its appointment in accordance with a definite social plan maintains the correct proportion between the different functions of labour and the various needs of the associations. On the other hand, labour-time also serves as a measure of the part taken by each individual in the common labour, and of his share in the total product destined for individual consumption. The social relations of the individual producers, both towards their labour and the products of their labour, are here transparent in their simplicity, in production as well as in distribution.



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    Anarchist communism...

    Shouldn't this thread be in the humor section? :lol:
     
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    Sounds like Star Trek TNG to me. Work is it's own reward. People work to advance and they work towards their own betterment. I like it. Especially since everyone can go to college to better themselves. Poor people aren't kept down just because their parents were poor. Rich people aren't sent to the head of the class just cause their parents attended the college before them.

    Everyone is actually equal and they each achieve according to their own means.
     
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    This is not anarchy. It is pure communism and doesn't work in groups larger than about 150 people.
     
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    You do understand that money(cash) is a tool and value is something the beholder assigns. Of course, with the advent of merchants, the beholder is told not to ask for less than what is considered acceptable by the merchant!!

    Also, even if BASIC NEED are met, the desire for more(want) will spur forward and entice people to overthrow such a system. Alas, it is also WANT that will encourage people to work at slave wages as we see in even the most ruthless of communists regimes. It is WANT that puts the prostitute on the streets of Scandanavian countries and cause riots to form in the capitals during economic down times. Want is the driver of crimes during economic Booms, during times when needs are met.

    Want is the downfall of any Utopia. The fatal Human flaws of lust and greed. Until man can be successfully re-programmed to ignore his desires, the dreams of Idealists and their allies will never become a permanent situation. Their world like the temporal existance of a Moth. A winged creature that burns in its blinding ignorance of mankind!
     

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