What really happened to manufacturing?

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    Brutus: liberals happened!! They are anti-business. But, America still manufactures 20% of all manufactured goods and its holding steady too. That's 45% more than China.

    We could make unions illegal, give tax credits to manufacturers, and pass a Republican Balanced Budget Amendment so China and Japan would have to buy our goods rather than our bonds. Problem solved but liberals hate business so we flounder.
     
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    Nonsense.

    Automation happened.

    America has never manufactured more with fewer people on the assembly line.
     
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    Computers are great for a lot of things but, unfortunately, they put a lot of people out of a job.
     
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    Actually its not automation, it was "The American Jobs Creation Act", US manufacturing went from 28% of the US economy to about 12%. Look at the charts on this 2007 site
    IndustryWeek : The Face Of American Manufacturing

    What happened was that ~14,000 US factories were moved overseas.
     
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    From 2001 to 2008, Republicans working with the Chamber of Commerce and China moved 2.4 million jobs to China and closed thousands of factories.

    China and the Chamber of Commerce gave seminars all across the US teaching business how to move to China. Invitations were available on the internet for anyone to print out and show up.

    It's not a secret. Anyone can look it up. Just do a Google search, "2001 to 2008 millions of jobs moved to China". You can read about it in publications such as "Manufacturing Today", hardly a "liberal" publication.

    I wonder what the right thinks when confronted with real facts? Must hurt.
     
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    So what?

    Agriculture went from >50% to under 5% in a few scant decades because of automation.

    Though, not to downplay the role of excessive meddling by politicians and bureaucrats, automation is the principal reason that Americans produce more with less manpower.
     
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    America manufactures 20% of the world's manufactured goods measured in $. Like we manufacture 20 cents of every dollar's worth of man. production on the globe.

    But China already manufactures a larger volume of man. goods than we do because they export them at much lower prices than we sell the same goods for.
     
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    It was both. Marx predicted that as technology advanced and capital accumulated productivity gains would increasingly be the result of automation and that product prices would be eternally driven down causing cyclical boom and bust cycles.

    He was 100% right in every facet of that prediction. Every time you hear a news story boasting the productivity of American workers that is another example of automation stealing jobs.
     
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    Automation has already cost the Chinese millions of manufacturing jobs, they have worse unemployment than we do, and automation is the principal culprit.
     
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    Automation doesn't "steal jobs"...It still takes people to build and maintain the machines.
     

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