What passes for Republican Science

[Old Rocks]

Oh really?

Then you'll be kind enough to show us the science that demonstrates a conclusion about anthropogenic CO2's magnitude of influence on any warming.

Thanks.

Al Gore says so, that's better than anything scientists can do.

That's why Al Gore stopped flying around in a fleet of private jets and stopped owning multiple energy draining mansions and stopped having his luggage driven around by limos, because he's a man of integrity who believes every word he says.

Al Gore is an asswipe and patient zero for this malady on science.

LOL. Sis believes that anybody that is to the left of Westbrook Pegler is a commie.

 

[Si modo]

You appear to be conflating your misunderstandings and confusions regarding the science (and the culpability for politicization) with an accurate and objective assessment of the issue.

Oh really?

Then you'll be kind enough to show us the science that demonstrates a conclusion about anthropogenic CO2's magnitude of influence on any warming.

Thanks.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect


Global Climate Change Position Statement

Global Climate Change

PDF version


Position in Brief

• Recommends action on reducing greenhouse gases as well as adaptation strategies for dealing with climate change
• Encourages continued research and funding into the effects of climate change, while also emphasizing the importance of educating the public on the issue

“Careful and comprehensive scientific assessments have clearly demonstrated that the Earth’s climate system is changing in response to growing atmospheric burdens of greenhouse gases (GHGs) and absorbing aerosol particles.” (IPCC, 2007) “Climate change is occurring, is caused largely by human activities, and poses significant risks for—and in many cases is already affecting—a broad range of human and natural systems.” (NRC, 2010a) “The potential threats are serious and actions are required to mitigate climate change risks and to adapt to deleterious climate change impacts that probably cannot be avoided.” (NRC, 2010b, c)

This statement reviews key probable climate change impacts and recommends actions required to mitigate or adapt to current and anticipated consequences.

AGW Observer

It's unfortunate that you still confuse political advocacy, policy groups, and blogs with actual science.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Oh really?

Then you'll be kind enough to show us the science that demonstrates a conclusion about anthropogenic CO2's magnitude of influence on any warming.

Thanks.

Al Gore says so, that's better than anything scientists can do.

That's why Al Gore stopped flying around in a fleet of private jets and stopped owning multiple energy draining mansions and stopped having his luggage driven around by limos, because he's a man of integrity who believes every word he says.

Al Gore is an asswipe and patient zero for this malady on science.

In "Earth in the Balance" Al Gore blamed water vapor for he warming

True story

 

[Si modo]

Al Gore says so, that's better than anything scientists can do.

That's why Al Gore stopped flying around in a fleet of private jets and stopped owning multiple energy draining mansions and stopped having his luggage driven around by limos, because he's a man of integrity who believes every word he says.

Al Gore is an asswipe and patient zero for this malady on science.

LOL. Sis believes that anybody that is to the left of Westbrook Pegler is a commie.

Incorrect. Too bad the rhetoric of facts has never been your dominating rhetoric.

 

[Old Rocks]

Well, Sis, only better than 90% of real scientists disagree with you. But don't let that discourage you.

 

[flacaltenn]

Oh really?

Then you'll be kind enough to show us the science that demonstrates a conclusion about anthropogenic CO2's magnitude of influence on any warming.

Thanks.

Al Gore says so, that's better than anything scientists can do.

That's why Al Gore stopped flying around in a fleet of private jets and stopped owning multiple energy draining mansions and stopped having his luggage driven around by limos, because he's a man of integrity who believes every word he says.

Al Gore is an asswipe and patient zero for this malady on science.

AND --- a Nobel Prize winner.. He did got shamed into removing several Nat Gas lanterns on his front walk here in Nashville.. Now -- he doesn't seem to be here as much.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Well, Sis, only better than 90% of real scientists disagree with you. But don't let that discourage you.

AGW Cultists are not "Scientists"

 

[Si modo]

Well, Sis, only better than 90% of real scientists disagree with you. But don't let that discourage you.

Believe it or not, Rocks, scientists have very diverse beliefs.

But, beliefs are not science. Now you know.

 

[Old Rocks]

Al Gore says so, that's better than anything scientists can do.

That's why Al Gore stopped flying around in a fleet of private jets and stopped owning multiple energy draining mansions and stopped having his luggage driven around by limos, because he's a man of integrity who believes every word he says.

Al Gore is an asswipe and patient zero for this malady on science.

In "Earth in the Balance" Al Gore blamed water vapor for he warming

True story

My, my, Frankie Boy once again demostrating his enormous ignorance. Water vapor is the dominent GHG. However, it has a residence time in the atmosphere of less than ten days. So it is a feedback from the longer lived GHGs like CO2, CH4, and NOx.

 

[Uncensored2008]

It is what passes for science within the Grand Old Party

Republicans can't counter with data of their own and with 92% of scientists agreeing with global warming they have to do something. So they fall back on their usual tactic of harrassment, threats and intimidation to get their way

Fucking Michael Mann, complaining that he was harassed.

RW, are you too stupid to grasp that this is like Hitler complaining that the Jews were persecuting him?

Are you REALLY that fucking stupid?

 

[Dr.Drock]

Al Gore says so, that's better than anything scientists can do.

That's why Al Gore stopped flying around in a fleet of private jets and stopped owning multiple energy draining mansions and stopped having his luggage driven around by limos, because he's a man of integrity who believes every word he says.

Al Gore is an asswipe and patient zero for this malady on science.

AND --- a Nobel Prize winner.. He did got shamed into removing several Nat Gas lanterns on his front walk here in Nashville.. Now -- he doesn't seem to be here as much.

And as we know, those are never given out for political reasons.

So has Gore actually stopped flying private jets around, living in energy draining mansions and having luggage delivered by limos? Or does he still not believe a word of the bs he spreads that you take as gospel?

 

[Old Rocks]

Now Sis, you are assuming that I have never met any scientists. Bad assumption. Yes, many and diverse beliefs. One common to good scientists is accepting reality, even when they don't like it, and it seems contrary to their politics. You don't fall into the group.

 

[Si modo]

Now Sis, you are assuming that I have never met any scientists. Bad assumption. Yes, many and diverse beliefs. One common to good scientists is accepting reality, even when they don't like it, and it seems contrary to their politics. You don't fall into the group.

No, I am not assuming that.

 

[Old Rocks]

It is what passes for science within the Grand Old Party

Republicans can't counter with data of their own and with 92% of scientists agreeing with global warming they have to do something. So they fall back on their usual tactic of harrassment, threats and intimidation to get their way

Fucking Michael Mann, complaining that he was harassed.

RW, are you too stupid to grasp that this is like Hitler complaining that the Jews were persecuting him?

Are you REALLY that fucking stupid?

Now here we have a real asshole spewing.

Just whom has Mann harrassed? He has done real science. Because his conclusions don't please you, does not mean you have the right to harrass him.

So take off the brown shirt, and rejoin the sane among us.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Al Gore is an asswipe and patient zero for this malady on science.

In "Earth in the Balance" Al Gore blamed water vapor for he warming

True story

My, my, Frankie Boy once again demostrating his enormous ignorance. Water vapor is the dominent GHG. However, it has a residence time in the atmosphere of less than ten days. So it is a feedback from the longer lived GHGs like CO2, CH4, and NOx.

You keep repeating the 10 days statistic like it meant something as if Earth will be devoid of water vapor 9 days hence. It's a meaningless statistic

How much water vapor was in the atmosphere 800,000 years ago?

Also, is English not your first language? I was quoting from your Bible "Earth in the Balance" Gore said Water Vapor was the primary driver for AGW

 

[Uncensored2008]

Now here we have a real asshole spewing.

You fucking cultists are something else.

{“I will be emailing the journal to tell them I’m having nothing more to do with it until they rid themselves of this troublesome editor.”“It results from this journal having a number of editors. The responsible one for this is a well-known skeptic in NZ. He has let a few papers through by Michaels and Gray in the past. I’ve had words with Hans von Storch about this, but got nowhere. Another thing to discuss in Nice !”}

Mann threatening journals who dare publish science - in contrast to the cult.

Just whom has Mann harrassed? He has done real science.

Mann is among a cadre who crush real science for the moronic cult you and he follow.

Because his conclusions don't please you, does not mean you have the right to harrass him.

He's a pile of shit, he suppresses science and oppresses scientific inquiry, as is the way of your cult.

 

[Si modo]

It is what passes for science within the Grand Old Party

Republicans can't counter with data of their own and with 92% of scientists agreeing with global warming they have to do something. So they fall back on their usual tactic of harrassment, threats and intimidation to get their way

Fucking Michael Mann, complaining that he was harassed.

RW, are you too stupid to grasp that this is like Hitler complaining that the Jews were persecuting him?

Are you REALLY that fucking stupid?

Now here we have a real asshole spewing.

Just whom has Mann harrassed? He has done real science. Because his conclusions don't please you, does not mean you have the right to harrass him.

So take off the brown shirt, and rejoin the sane among us.

Interesting that you find Uncensored to be the only asshole spewing.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Exposed: The terrifying harassment faced by climate change scientists - The Week

In a sprawling new story in Popular Science, Tom Clynes takes an in-depth look at the seedy but influential range of people who take it upon themselves to make life a living hell for climate-change researchers.

1. Harassment is routine
Climate-change deniers often threaten scientists in attempts to distract them from their research — and the harassment goes beyond nasty emails. One climate modeler describes finding "a dead rat on his doorstep" with "a yellow Hummer speeding away

2. Political associations don't matter
For Katharine Hayhoe, an atmospheric scientist, political conservative, and evangelical Christian, her work can be as thankless as it is taxing — even from her own party. In 2007, Rush Limbaugh discovered her contributions to a book co-authored by Newt Gingrich and ridiculed her as a "climate babe." Following the backlash, Gingrich dropped her chapter on global warming entirely.

3. Research is often stifled by legal action
"Those crude acts of harassment often come alongside more-sophisticated legal and political attacks," says Clynes. Climate change skeptics regularly file lawsuits and Freedom of Information Act requests to disrupt ongoing research. "In 2005, before dragging Mann and other climate researchers into congressional hearings, Texas congressman Joe Barton ordered the scientists to submit voluminous details of working procedures, computer programs and past funding,

4. Efforts to ruffle scientists are increasingly sophisticated
It's not "a bunch of crazy people" fighting against us, says Mann. "These efforts to discredit science are well-organized." "There's really only about 25 of us doing this," says Steve Milloy, a Fox News commentator and self-described "denier." He calls the core group of skeptics "a ragtag bunch, very Continental Army." The deniers often target scientists who speak up publicly, offering bounties to anyone willing to make their lives difficult. In one instance, Milloy offered $500 for anyone

5. Anti-climate change advocacy is well-funded
Following the Kyoto Protocol on global warming in 1998, the American Petroleum Institute put together a $5.9 million task force (which included Milloy) charged with discrediting climate change science to "quash growing public support of curbing emissions."

some cyberspace pretend scientist will disagree

 

[Si modo]

Exposed: The terrifying harassment faced by climate change scientists - The Week

In a sprawling new story in Popular Science, Tom Clynes takes an in-depth look at the seedy but influential range of people who take it upon themselves to make life a living hell for climate-change researchers.

1. Harassment is routine
Climate-change deniers often threaten scientists in attempts to distract them from their research — and the harassment goes beyond nasty emails. One climate modeler describes finding "a dead rat on his doorstep" with "a yellow Hummer speeding away

2. Political associations don't matter
For Katharine Hayhoe, an atmospheric scientist, political conservative, and evangelical Christian, her work can be as thankless as it is taxing — even from her own party. In 2007, Rush Limbaugh discovered her contributions to a book co-authored by Newt Gingrich and ridiculed her as a "climate babe." Following the backlash, Gingrich dropped her chapter on global warming entirely.

3. Research is often stifled by legal action
"Those crude acts of harassment often come alongside more-sophisticated legal and political attacks," says Clynes. Climate change skeptics regularly file lawsuits and Freedom of Information Act requests to disrupt ongoing research. "In 2005, before dragging Mann and other climate researchers into congressional hearings, Texas congressman Joe Barton ordered the scientists to submit voluminous details of working procedures, computer programs and past funding,

4. Efforts to ruffle scientists are increasingly sophisticated
It's not "a bunch of crazy people" fighting against us, says Mann. "These efforts to discredit science are well-organized." "There's really only about 25 of us doing this," says Steve Milloy, a Fox News commentator and self-described "denier." He calls the core group of skeptics "a ragtag bunch, very Continental Army." The deniers often target scientists who speak up publicly, offering bounties to anyone willing to make their lives difficult. In one instance, Milloy offered $500 for anyone

5. Anti-climate change advocacy is well-funded
Following the Kyoto Protocol on global warming in 1998, the American Petroleum Institute put together a $5.9 million task force (which included Milloy) charged with discrediting climate change science to "quash growing public support of curbing emissions."

some cyberspace pretend scientist will disagree

Disagree about what, Dante?

 

[Trakar]

And, none of this would have happened if folks had NOT made this political.

THIS is what happens when folks refuse to let science do what science does best - science.

Those who try to force data, observations, etc. into science that is not at a state where ANY conclusions can be made are responsible for all of this. (And, in case no one notices, I repeat - ANY conclusion.)

Just stop making this political and things will be fine.

You appear to be conflating your misunderstandings and confusions regarding the science (and the culpability for politicization) with an accurate and objective assessment of the issue.

Oh really?

Then you'll be kind enough to show us the science that demonstrates a conclusion about anthropogenic CO2's magnitude of influence on any warming.

Thanks.

It is clearly demonstrated in the mainstream published science references cited in the various IPCC reports most specifically in:

The Copenhagen Diagnosis 2009

(the older 2007 report some issues have been revised over the last 5 years)
Chapter 1: Historical Overview of Climate Change Science - AR4 WGI

(and this special report concerning current and near future impacts which just became publically available this month)
IPCC

Of course, the basic science understandings and processes are available in the upper level primary science (chemistry, physics, biology, geology, etc.,) textbooks and references published over the last 50-100 years.