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And of course you're for spreading the wealth and punishing the rich, right?
You saw that, where, in my post exactly?
The major problem we have right now is the unbridled concentration of wealth. The founders spoke against it. Most economists caution against that as well. And when it happens to a huge extent..generally revolution follows.
There's nothing wrong with becoming wealthy from your hard work, innovation and fortitude. There is something wrong when profit is so unevenly distributed that even when you work hard you make barely enough to survive, and those that are making the that wealth are controlling the political process as well.
So you are for force ably removing other peoples wealth to be distributed as some lefty feel good politician wants? You advocate rebellion against the rich? Tell us, what is the proper amount of wealth distribution?
I believe we as individuals have a duty and privilege to serve the poor. And that when we try to outsource those responsibilities to the government and to others, than we fail to give and recieve the blessings we could otherwise have.
What do you think?
Ive been thinking about it this morning and I was wondering what our obligation to the poor is. Im not talking about what we should outsource to the government or what the government should do. But what do we as individuals have a responsibility to do?
I keep thinking of the words of a hymn:
"We'll go to the poor like our Captain of old. And visit the weary, the hungry, and cold. We'll cheer up their hearts with the news that he bore and point them to Zion and life evermore."
I believe we as individuals have a duty and privilege to serve the poor. And that when we try to outsource those responsibilities to the government and to others, than we fail to give and recieve the blessings we could otherwise have.
What do you think?
People who are against universal, single payer insurance already have some kind of good insurance. What they're against is taking care of the poor who have nothing and no hopes of ever getting anything. Damn easy to feel that way if you already have it made.
I believe we as individuals have a duty and privilege to serve the poor. And that when we try to outsource those responsibilities to the government and to others, than we fail to give and recieve the blessings we could otherwise have.
What do you think?
I think this is fundamentally naïve.
Social programs and public assistance arent outsourc[ing] those responsibilities to the government. Rather, the government merely functions as a medium to ensure resources reach the needy in a consistent and effective manner, as opposed to a pure private, non-profit system lacking oversight. Indeed, those wishing to give to private, non-profit entities are more than welcome to do so, if they have the need to realize a blessing, whatever thats supposed to be.
As with a majority of Americans I contribute both with regard to the taxes I pay and my contributions to charitable organizations. I also contribute my time.
am i forced to pay for a yearly $900 BILLION total defense budget each and every year? Is that FORCE?
We're the only industrialized country in the world where 500 companies make profits off of sick people. Then... we still rank 37th in overall health. Being the compassionate individual that I am I hope your stomach cancer doesn't cause too much pain.
So far so good.. no stomach cancer....
I will however be happy to tell my oncologist what you said about pain. As i am more then happy to pay for what ever is prescribed.
How old are you? I'm 77 and haven't had anything like that either but a brother-in-law fought multiple myeloma for five years before he died. Chemotherapy treatments ranged from $9,000 to $14,000 a dose and the stem cell transplants rounded at about $10,000. He had no insurance because he worked in food service managing restaurants for 50 years but my sister's insurance covered him. She retired from Lockheed Martin. I repeat...we're the only industrialized nation in the world where 500 companies make profits off of sick people.
People who are against universal, single payer insurance already have some kind of good insurance. What they're against is taking care of the poor who have nothing and no hopes of ever getting anything. Damn easy to feel that way if you already have it made.
Ive been thinking about it this morning and I was wondering what our obligation to the poor is. Im not talking about what we should outsource to the government or what the government should do. But what do we as individuals have a responsibility to do?
I keep thinking of the words of a hymn:
"We'll go to the poor like our Captain of old. And visit the weary, the hungry, and cold. We'll cheer up their hearts with the news that he bore and point them to Zion and life evermore."
I believe we as individuals have a duty and privilege to serve the poor. And that when we try to outsource those responsibilities to the government and to others, than we fail to give and recieve the blessings we could otherwise have.
What do you think?
King Benjamin (Mosiah 4, Book of Mormon) would applaud the searchings of your heart but disagree with your "outsourcing" comment. He would tell you that private and public efforts are mandatory, of course. I would think that we would take care of the weary, the infirm, the children and infants, mothers with children, train the non-taxpayer into becoming taxpayers. When we fail to use appropriate outsource opportunities, we deny blessings to those in need but to ourselves as well.
I believe we as individuals have a duty and privilege to serve the poor. And that when we try to outsource those responsibilities to the government and to others, than we fail to give and recieve the blessings we could otherwise have.
What do you think?
I think this is fundamentally naïve.
Social programs and public assistance arent outsourc[ing] those responsibilities to the government. Rather, the government merely functions as a medium to ensure resources reach the needy in a consistent and effective manner, as opposed to a pure private, non-profit system lacking oversight. Indeed, those wishing to give to private, non-profit entities are more than welcome to do so, if they have the need to realize a blessing, whatever thats supposed to be.
As with a majority of Americans I contribute both with regard to the taxes I pay and my contributions to charitable organizations. I also contribute my time.
And that would be peachy IF your claim "... the government merely functions as a medium to ensure resources reach the needy in a consistent and effective manner...", were true.
I think this is fundamentally naïve.
Social programs and public assistance arent outsourc[ing] those responsibilities to the government. Rather, the government merely functions as a medium to ensure resources reach the needy in a consistent and effective manner, as opposed to a pure private, non-profit system lacking oversight. Indeed, those wishing to give to private, non-profit entities are more than welcome to do so, if they have the need to realize a blessing, whatever thats supposed to be.
As with a majority of Americans I contribute both with regard to the taxes I pay and my contributions to charitable organizations. I also contribute my time.
And that would be peachy IF your claim "... the government merely functions as a medium to ensure resources reach the needy in a consistent and effective manner...", were true.
Which is one of many reasons we shouldnt be outsourcing charity. Another being that it ceases to be charity when it's forced.
if all the churches and synagogues and temples were doing what some call "their job", then we would not have any poor that fall between the cracks and need help from elsewhere....
but the millions in poverty worldwide is obviously too large of a load for them to take on all by themselves...
I do contribute to the poor. I also volunteer a lot of my time to them. We also give away LOTS to veterans organizations and shelters (food, clothing, appliances, etc.).
Doesn't everyone do this?
if all the churches and synagogues and temples were doing what some call "their job", then we would not have any poor that fall between the cracks and need help from elsewhere....
but the millions in poverty worldwide is obviously too large of a load for them to take on all by themselves...
Simply not true. a lot of churches have separate funds for different projects. And the money is divided amongst them or sought specifically for a sole purpose.
I realize it is expected of some of you to bash religion but perhaps you could get your facts straight first.
I was baptized Baptist on a spring morning in 1957. I was in the church until I was over 60 years old. We tithed our gross income. I taught Sunday school. I was a member of the Brotherhood, I was on the visitation committee, the building committee etc. I worked with RA boys and helped with vacation bible school. I attended youth retreats and assisted in the planning of everything our church was involved in. I can understand you needing to believe the church uses your money for the poor and needy but guess what...that's a lie. I saw where every penny of our donations ended up. The poor were lucky if they received anything.
That would be YOUR church not EVERY church and further if you participated in it you are to blame for raising no fuss over it. Many churches do NOT follow YOUR example, claiming they do is a lie.
if all the churches and synagogues and temples were doing what some call "their job", then we would not have any poor that fall between the cracks and need help from elsewhere....
but the millions in poverty worldwide is obviously too large of a load for them to take on all by themselves...
It is not the job of the federal Government to feed, cloth and house the poor. IF a Government IS responsible it is the State Governments. You want the States to take care of people from birth to death petition your State to do so.
You want the federal Government to do it? Get an amendment created and pass it.
But I repeat, if YOU personally are not giving your all, your home your food your clothing your money to the poor, do not claim the Government should tax others to do it.
We're the only industrialized country in the world where 500 companies make profits off of sick people. Then... we still rank 37th in overall health. Being the compassionate individual that I am I hope your stomach cancer doesn't cause too much pain.
So far so good.. no stomach cancer....
I will however be happy to tell my oncologist what you said about pain. As i am more then happy to pay for what ever is prescribed.
How old are you? I'm 77 and haven't had anything like that either but a brother-in-law fought multiple myeloma for five years before he died. Chemotherapy treatments ranged from $9,000 to $14,000 a dose and the stem cell transplants rounded at about $10,000. He had no insurance because he worked in food service managing restaurants for 50 years but my sister's insurance covered him. She retired from Lockheed Martin. I repeat...we're the only industrialized nation in the world where 500 companies make profits off of sick people.
People who are against universal, single payer insurance already have some kind of good insurance. What they're against is taking care of the poor who have nothing and no hopes of ever getting anything. Damn easy to feel that way if you already have it made.