What is freedom, according to Iragi's?

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    They don't care much about the farmland "subsidies" that so many Americans enjoy due to restrictive laws that enable them, not to mention the industrial ones. They especially despise military subsidies that have so long encumbered them. They particularly oppose medical intervention when so many of their own have graduated from American Medical Universities yet refuse to support American intervention into Iragi national affairs. It's a quagmire to say the least. I won't even go into Iragi resentment on the religious interventions of Americans. But at their best, Iragi's do embrace freedom.

    We pat ourselves on the back when we subsidize certain businesses to ascertain their success despite freemarket failure on their parts. Think about the Chrysler bailout. Considering the common American taxpayer contributions to the American cotton industries success, the unfairness is staggering. Yet, now we are somehow unable to compete in the world market for producing good blue jeans, or even pajamas. Only recently have we become aware of the state and local tax-breaks that WalMart has received to ascertain their success to the tremendous expense of the rest of us, the small retailers and even small manufacturers. Even their English Perfect customer service reps are located in India, for Christ's sake.

    America was built on self preservation in this old man's opinion. The forsaking of our self preservation principles in the interest of corporate profit is more than sinful. It's disgusting to discover the power of complex and confusing advertising and bought and paid for media/journalistic intervention has so adversely affected our collective thinking processes. A free dollar to one is somehow paid for by the rest of us and to the ultimate demise of those that provide the "free dollar" unless it is carefully surmised the outcome of that true outcome of that "free dollar". In the case of Chrysler, the Germans could feel confident their investment was sound, despite the inferiority as demonstrated in past performance. It's amazing to me how many of my "Free Market" friends drive Dodge pickups. The success of untruthful advertising American Style is upon us is all I can conclude. The discarding of the "Hemi" engineering by Ford and Chrysler many years ago was quite sound. Don't even get me bitching about the inferiorities of the K Kar, the salvation of Chrysler. But I digress.

    In the interest of self preservation, Iragi's are determined to defeat their occupiers and return themselves to the freedoms that they understand and have enjoyed for thousands of years. Their ideolgy of freedom and ours is simply not compatible.

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    First, what the heck is Iragi?

    Second, assuming you are just a poor speller, what freedoms have the Iraqi's had under Saddam that they are fighting to return themselves to?
     
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    First, an Iraqi is an inhabitant/citizen of Iraq.

    Second, you haven't an opinion or sense enough to form one, why did you post?

    Thirdly, the Iraqi's enjoyed plenty of freedoms under Saddam. They were free to run their farms, businesses, households, etc. That is until they were invaded by an equally political tyrant that only seeks to exploit thier resourses. That's the case WE AMERICANS have yet to dispel amongst the masses that continue to call themselves Iraqi/Arab/Muslim. You got suggestions, I want to hear them.

    I apologise for insulting you.
     
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    Freedoms under Saddam??? You got to be kidding!

    True freedom is now being given a chance in the Middle East. Our enemies recognize that as their biggest threat from America, something our liberal friends don't seem to understand.

    Read this article and learn why Baghdad may soon replace Dubai as the main commercial center in the Middle East. Under Saddam it never stood a snowball's chance of becoming so successful.
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-03-28-iraq-economy_x.htm
     
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    Obviously you didnt read what you wrote then

    I see, cant deal with the questions so you have to go onto personal attacks. You are the ones claiming the Iragis are fighting for the freedoms they have always had that they have lost because of the US liberation. Therefore its up to you back up your claims. I have no reason to form an opinion before you explain yours.

    Suggestions for what? You havent shown a problem that needs solving. heck you havent even backed up a single solitary claim you've made. Saddams killing fields are shut down, his torture chambers and rape rooms are gone. There is power in more of Iraq than there was two years ago. There are more schools and hopsitals than ever before. People are allowed to speak their minds. They have a free market open to them now. How the people starving under a tyrannical regime somehow were free is beyond me. Why on earth do you think tyranny is somehow freedom and freedom is somehow tyranny.

    BS i dont need your phone apologies. If you felt any sort of remose for anything you said you wouldnt have posted it. Go to North Korea. Im sure youd love the free society there.
     
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    What amazes me he seems to think the freedom of this country is our subsidizing of companies. I mean has the guy ever bothered to read the Bill of rights?
     
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    That would make a great bumpersticker!
     
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    If I were an Iraqi, i'd blow away as many american soldiers as I could before being killed myself. I can guarantee that.
     
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    So do you like, have to pay Micheal Moore a quarter or somethn' every time you post?
     
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    Strange how an overwhelming percentage of Iraqis don't share your opinion.

    You just cheer every time an evil imperialist American dies. Wohoo!

    Why don't you go strap on a set and kill some Americans huh? Kill them! Blow those imperialists away! C'mon! Just get your ass to Iraq and kill some American scum! And hey, why not team up with Zarqawi? Heads will roll! Those Americans who get their heads lobbed off, they deserve it! Abu Ghraib! DEATH TO AMERICA!


    I look forward to seeing you pretending to fake dead and having your brains blown out on TV.
     

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