What do you want from government?

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    We got off track on Ravi's thread objecting to Obama being compared to Hitler, but there seemed to be some interest in the new topic, so I'm moving it here.

    One of the comparisons was in tactics used by government to accomplish whatever goals the leadership might want to achieve. But whether such tactics are proper, appropriate, or inappropriate is often in our perspectives of what we think government should be, and what we do and do not want government to do for us or to us.

    The question under discussion was this but does not necessarily have to be limited to this:

    It would be helpful if Federal and State government distinctions would be made if you in fact think there are distinctions between Federal and State government.
     
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    Protect peaceful people from force and fraud form within.

    Protect national sovereignty from force from without.

    End of list.
     
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    More and bigger government, plus 10 more bank holiday's and free sky diving lesson for seniors
     
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    So you don't want any laws involving speed limits or which side of the road to drive on? Would you allow commerce and industry to be able to pollute the air, soil, water without restriction? Is there no room for the intent to promote the general welfare in such matters?

    But while I think most Americans (including you) are probably in full agreement on those kinds of things, the others listed in the thread starter are a bit more complicated.
     
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    I think some limits need to be set regarding huge amounts of money and leverages and investment 'vehicles' that are deleterious to the system. Derivatives need to be regulated, stringently. They amount to a total system break down and the skimming of all the working capital. You can be as rich as you want, but when you corner the assets the game is over and the whole deal comes tumbling down. It's basically betting on spec. You wanna bet? Put the money down, don't hedge it and tranch hedge it and resell it ad nauseum. And if you do have that much money a certain amount should be utilized as directly back into the economy as possible.
     
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    Speed limits...Local issue. On open interstates highways; none for non-commercial traffic and enforce lane usage, i.e. the Autobahn.

    Pollution of the air and soil is a quasi-aggressive act....Especially given that the land pollution would likely run off onto another's property.
     
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    I would say that the sole purpose of any government is to enforce the social contract. A few of the major points that governments should try aim to establish:

    1. Guidance
    2. Safety
    3. Protection

    The guidance leads to laws being established in the name of saftey, and armies are usually developed for protection. Anything a government does could likely be simplified to these three concepts.
     
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    Dude nailed it.
     
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    Something tangible in return for the ungodly amount of taxes I pay.
     
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    This is going to be a good discussion. I have to be gone for several hours but will return to respond or join in.
     

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