What do the 47% get?

[Not2BSubjugated]

The vast majority work and work very hard!

Of course you'll shit on them as you're an anti-American piece of scum that hate the avg worker on the street. Funny how you always side with the rich and their abuse of the worker. That is exactly your agenda and why it is to deregulate the rich so the rich can fuck over the worker and the common man.

I am up on your game.

How insecure are you in your philosophical opinions if you have to paint everyone who disagrees with you as some malevolent misanthrope who's driven by a desire to harm poor people?

Try to keep in mind that a lot of us who are currently proponents of deregulation aren't looking for things to be rolled back so far that robber barons are paying coal miners in company script. Most of us simply want a regulatory environment that doesn't, for instance, cripple small businesses as they cross the threshold from 49 to 50 employees. We're not looking for a license for the rich to fuck over the common man, we're looking for an environment where the common man can BECOME one of the rich.

Well conceived and well placed regulations protect the innocent from the corrupt. Poorly conceived regulations strangle productivity and progress. Stop lumping all regulations together and then declaring them good. That shit doesn't help anyone.

 

[PredFan]

47% of American citizens do not earn enough to pay federal income taxes....

What do they get out of this alleged TAX CUT?

Are they not affected at all other than reducing their benefits like their health care benefit and cutting their medicare and cutting their social security and/or cutting their CHIP benefit?

Jobs, pay increases, then tax cuts.

 

[leftwinger]

Wonder how many trumpettes are part of that 47%?

Maybe now with new rates and new standard deduction......that 47% will increase to 51%? 60%?

Single mother with 7 kids and no income will get $14K if she can figure out how to waddle down to H&R Block and sign the form. Who's gonna watch the babies?

 

[miketx]

What happened to make AMERICA great again? These poor 47% are Americans and pay in to federal tax revenues get nothing....while 35% of the people from foreign countries that own stock, do get a cut....?

Prove your bullshit liar.

 

[g5000]

FYI-the standard deduction when income taxes were first introduced in this nation was the equivalent of $65,000 in today's dollar....the poor and middle income earners NEVER HAD TO PAY income tax...

...and then the citizenry demanded bigger government, and that has to be paid for.

 

[Care4all]

What happened to make AMERICA great again? These poor 47% are Americans and pay in to federal tax revenues get nothing....while 35% of the people from foreign countries that own stock, do get a cut....?

Prove your bullshit liar.

what bullshit???

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

What happened to make AMERICA great again? These poor 47% are Americans and pay in to federal tax revenues get nothing....while 35% of the people from foreign countries that own stock, do get a cut....?

Prove your bullshit liar.

what bullshit???

The most obvious bit of bullshit in the post in question is where you say that these poor 47 percent of Americans pay into federal tax revenues and get nothing. Actually, they get nothing from this tax cut specifically because they do NOT currently pay anything into federal tax revenues. You actually said so yourself. Remember the start of the thread?

"47% of American citizens do not earn enough to pay federal income taxes...."

Also, you've got a fucked up way of looking at it. Taxes don't pay for tax cuts, they pay for shit you use. Those 47 percent who "don't get anything", are actually getting free access to roads and schools, free access to police protection insofar that they are protected by federal police, free access to military protection should it ever be necessary, and they get these things, for all intents and purposes, in perpetuity. Those of us who pay taxes, on the other hand, we don't get that shit for free. We pay for it. Thus, when there's a tax break on the horizon, that's a rare benefit for us, the people who pay for the shit that those other 47 percent get to benefit from all the time.

I'm incredibly sorry that not EVERY SINGLE THING is designed to benefit that 47 percent that doesn't have to pay for it, and I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me for wanting the rare consideration for the guys paying the fucking bills.

 

[g5000]

and if they don't have children, like the seniors? or they are single?

Hey shit head! Seniors on social security don't pay income tax because they won't make enough to exceed the standard deduction!

Why don't you go to bed and get some rest? Being that stupid has to be really exhausting!

duh
no kidding, that's why they are part of the 47% not paying federal income tax now....

So why are you bitching? They don't pay any more in taxes and they don't pay any less because
THEY DON'T PAY TAXES!

having trouble with your reading comprehension?

what are they getting out of this biggest tax cut in our history of Trump's? Cuts to their medicare.

More lies, this bill does nothing to medicare.


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Wrong.

The tax reform bill causes automatic cuts in funding to dozens of federal programs if Congress takes no action to stop the cuts, and one of the programs which will get cut is Medicare.

The reason is because the tax reform bill causes deficits, and Paygo requires cuts to Medicare and other programs to offset the tax reform deficits.

 

[g5000]

The Tax Bill’s Automatic Spending Cuts

The cuts would be automatic, the consequence of a 2010 law that Congress passed to keep itself from increasing the deficit too much.

The biggest program affected would be Medicare, the health insurance program for older people and the disabled. But the law allows Medicare to take only a relatively small cut: 4 percent. Other programs have no such protection. According to the Congressional Budget Office, the deficit increase from the tax bill would be large enough — $1.5 trillion over 10 years — that spending for the unprotected programs would be reduced to zero next year and nearly zero over the next nine years.


The Statutory Pay-as-You-Go Act of 2010, or Paygo, is an Obama-era update of a rule first enacted under President George H.W. Bush. It requires that legislation that adds to the federal deficit be paid for with spending cuts, increases in revenue or other offsets.

 

[g5000]

47% of American citizens do not earn enough to pay federal income taxes....

What do they get out of this alleged TAX CUT?

Are they not affected at all other than reducing their benefits like their health care benefit and cutting their medicare and cutting their social security and/or cutting their CHIP benefit?

Do you EVER stop lying?

None of those are being cut, dumb ass!

He's not lying. You are.

Wrong. See posts 88 and 89.

 

[AsianTrumpSupporter]

Man, liberals have turned into fags.

 

[g5000]

47% of American citizens do not earn enough to pay federal income taxes

Whose fault is that, and are they indeed all citizens?

Hey dumbass. A large percentage of the 47% are seniors. They have worked and paid into the system their entire working lives, you fucking dumb c*nt.

 

[g5000]

The Republican Congress has had three years to submit a balanced budget, and never have.

Now Trump and the GOP are exploding our debt, after whining about deficits while Obama was President.

Rank hypocrisy.

This tax reform bill addes 1.5 trillion dollars to our debt. This causes automatic cuts to programs like Medicare to kick in.

In order to prevent those automatic cuts, the Republicans and Trump will have to spend us even MORE into debt.

All because of this bullshit tax "reform" which gives massive government gifts to corporations AND lowers their tax rate.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

47% of American citizens do not earn enough to pay federal income taxes

Whose fault is that, and are they indeed all citizens?

Hey dumbass. A large percentage of the 47% are seniors. They have worked and paid into the system their entire working lives, you fucking dumb c*nt.

So you're saying what?

 

[bendog]

47% of American citizens do not earn enough to pay federal income taxes

Whose fault is that, and are they indeed all citizens?

Hey dumbass. A large percentage of the 47% are seniors. They have worked and paid into the system their entire working lives, you fucking dumb c*nt.

About the 47 Percent Who Don't Pay Federal Income Tax: Mitt, Meet Andrea

Even Forbes shot that down. Mitt screwed up bigly. But I believe him when he tried to walk it back by saying he really meant that our economy has to raise wages.

 

[g5000]

Here's the hilarious "history repeats itself" moment, boys and girls.

There was a Republican revolution back in the 90s, and the Republicans were able to take over Congress by whining about Democratic deficit spending.

You know what happened when the Republicans gained control of both houses of Congress under Bush?

They spent like drunken sailors in a whorehouse, doubling the national debt.

They spent so goddam much, they had to allow PAYGO to expire so they could keep adding to our debt.

And then, in order to help Bush get re-elected in 2004, they created a massive trillion dollar medical entitlement program!

No, really! A new trillion dollar medical entitlement program was created by the Republicans! I shit you not. Medicare Part D.

But unlike Obama, they didn't create any taxes to help pay for it like Obama did with Obamacare. So that Republican medical entitlement program is still adding to our debt to this very day. The debt they blame entirely on Obama.

Now, PAYGO is back.

And once again, the Republicans are back in power by whining about Democratic spending.

And once again, the Republicans are going to have to waive PAYGO in order to spend us more into debt!

 

[g5000]

Oh, there's more hilarity, boys and girls.

As I mentioned above, the Republicans didn't offset the cost of their medical entitlement program. They just threw it on the debt-growth pile.

Obama did offset the cost of Obamacare with some taxes.

Now here's comes the really fucking funny part.


Unable to repeal ObamaCare, the Republicans are repealing the taxes which pay for it.


Yeah. Let that sink in.

The Republicans are actually turning ObamaCare into EVEN MORE DEBT!

 

[bendog]

And the irony is the faux conservatives cry "we spend it all on people who won't work," and that's certainly not where the gop spends it. LOL

We had a problem in the 90s that a lot of seniors couldn't afford prescriptions. So we deficit spend so even the seniors who can afford them get them free ... without even paying for more supplemental insurance.

 

[g5000]

And now, the Republicans are cutting the corporate tax rate.

Here's the part they and Trump won't tell you: The reason the corporate tax rate is so high to begin with is because there are a metric ton of tax giveaways in the corporate tax code. Those giveaways are offset by increasing the tax rate. That's robbery. Plain and simple robbery.

Now the Republicans are cutting the tax rate. So that means they need to get rid of the tax giveaways which caused it to be so high in the first place.


But...here's the big secret...the Republicans ARE NOT getting rid of the giveaways.

And THAT is why we have a budget busting tax "reform" bill, boys and girls.

Since the tax cut isn't being paid for by getting rid of all those government gifts to corporations, guess whose ass it is going to come out of?

That's right. YOUR ASS.


That's why it is such a pathetic sight to see the tards defending this reeking pile of shit which is going to steal from them. The tards are defending the theft of their own money. They are defending the thieves who are stealing from them.

The pseudocon tards DESERVE to be lied to and robbed. Look at them. They are in line waiting for refills of their piss cups. They are unable to put together a cogent argument. They just parrot what they are told to parrot, and bleev what they are told to bleev.

But every other American does not deserve to be robbed.

It's torches and pitchforks time, kids.

 

[alang1216]

47% of American citizens do not earn enough to pay federal income taxes....

What do they get out of this alleged TAX CUT?

Are they not affected at all other than reducing their benefits like their health care benefit and cutting their medicare and cutting their social security and/or cutting their CHIP benefit?

Coincidentally 47% is the amount of the federal budget that is funded by personal income taxes. The poor may not pay income tax but they certainly pay other taxes and most are not progressive. The real freeloaders are the top 1%.

The Poor Pay a Higher Percentage of Income in Taxes