What are your thoughts on these statements?

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    'Men are not mere commodities and assets to be purchases, traded, used, and manipulated in the pursuit of capital.'


    No man should go hungry who is willing to work
     
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    Written by either a High School sophomore or a Socialist or both
     
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    sounds like something out of Marx's book to me.
     
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    There was a time when men were commodities and assets to be purchased, traded, and manipulated in the pursuit of capital.

    That practice was called "slavery."
     
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    Are you saying you disagree with the statement and that men are commodities and assets to be used as any other in the pursuit of capital?

    Or do you agree with the statement?
     
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    I'm saying its a naive statement written by a Socialist with a zero sum mentality
     
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    Define 'slavery'.

    Is it slavery to be forced to work for another's gain and have the majority of what you produce taken in order to be able to sustain your existence?
     
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    That's called "taxes" and you're right
     
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    Clarify. Does not thew capitalist, who labours little or not at all not keep the majority of the wealth created by the labourer, using the labourer's dependence upon the capitalist (which is more immediate than the capitalist's dependence upon the labourers) to ensure the man has little choice but to labour for the capitalist?

    Does the ability to choose one's master change the fundamental nature of the arrangement?
     
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    So taxation is slavery, as it meets the above definition?

    What then of 'wage slavery'?
     

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