What are you doing, GOP?

[Boss]

Okay... So the Jeb candidacy idea tanked before it ever got started... Christie tanked... Rubio and Kasich are tanking... the Establishment is fresh out of Goobs to run against one Donald J. Trump and the proverbial fat lady is warming up her vocal chords... what do they do? Trot out MITTENS!

So now, apparently... Mitt Romney is going to jump in this thing, not to WIN the nomination, but just to siphon enough delegates off to keep Trump from winning on the first ballot and causing a brokered convention... Something Reince Priebus intimated several weeks ago, would not happen.

I really did hope the Establishment GOP would get the message when Jeb got lukewarm support. Especially when the Top 3 candidates at one time, were all "anti-establishment" candidates... Trump, Cruz and Carson... but nope... They actively sabotaged Carson and Cruz and have been trying to damage Trump to no avail. Rubio was their last hope and it's slowly going down the tubes as they watch in disbelief.

If they don't want Trump, it seems the logical choice would be to back Ted Cruz.. but they want Cruz even less than they want Trump. Folks, I'll be honest... I think we're watching history happen here... the DEATH of a political party in all it's ugliness. They are simply too stuck on stupid to see what is happening out there. Mired in some kind of delusion that they can manipulate the will of the people and install their chosen candidate over the legitimate winner.

 

[Iceweasel]

Well, now Donald has dumped CPAC, I guess he figured it was going to be too hostile. These are strange days indeed. If the Dems had a decent candidate the GOP would be in trouble.

 

[Mac1958]

If they don't want Trump, it seems the logical choice would be to back Ted Cruz..

To hell with 'em.

You have a pretty good chance here to run Trump/Cruz. It's sitting right there.

No excuses, do it the way you'd like and let's see what happens.
.

 

[Mudda]

Boss, you vote for the slave... um I mean Republican party? You must pray to the white god as well.

 

[JoeB131]

I really did hope the Establishment GOP would get the message when Jeb got lukewarm support. Especially when the Top 3 candidates at one time, were all "anti-establishment" candidates... Trump, Cruz and Carson... but nope... They actively sabotaged Carson and Cruz and have been trying to damage Trump to no avail. Rubio was their last hope and it's slowly going down the tubes as they watch in disbelief.

If they don't want Trump, it seems the logical choice would be to back Ted Cruz.. but they want Cruz even less than they want Trump. Folks, I'll be honest... I think we're watching history happen here... the DEATH of a political party in all it's ugliness. They are simply too stuck on stupid to see what is happening out there. Mired in some kind of delusion that they can manipulate the will of the people and install their chosen candidate over the legitimate winner.

The problem is, an "anti-Establishment" candidate can't beat Hillary, and even if he did win, he wouldn't be able to govern.

So let's be straight up about it. The GOP isn't just about winning elections, it's about governing and parcelling out the goodies to its supporters. Ted Cruz - a guy who doesn't have a single one of his fellow senators endorsing his candidacy - doesn't have the political skills to make stuff happen, and everyone knows it.

There are people in the GOP who have concluded that a Hillary win would be better for them than a Trump or Cruz Presidency.

 

[deltex1]

Okay... So the Jeb candidacy idea tanked before it ever got started... Christie tanked... Rubio and Kasich are tanking... the Establishment is fresh out of Goobs to run against one Donald J. Trump and the proverbial fat lady is warming up her vocal chords... what do they do? Trot out MITTENS!

So now, apparently... Mitt Romney is going to jump in this thing, not to WIN the nomination, but just to siphon enough delegates off to keep Trump from winning on the first ballot and causing a brokered convention... Something Reince Priebus intimated several weeks ago, would not happen.

I really did hope the Establishment GOP would get the message when Jeb got lukewarm support. Especially when the Top 3 candidates at one time, were all "anti-establishment" candidates... Trump, Cruz and Carson... but nope... They actively sabotaged Carson and Cruz and have been trying to damage Trump to no avail. Rubio was their last hope and it's slowly going down the tubes as they watch in disbelief.

If they don't want Trump, it seems the logical choice would be to back Ted Cruz.. but they want Cruz even less than they want Trump. Folks, I'll be honest... I think we're watching history happen here... the DEATH of a political party in all it's ugliness. They are simply too stuck on stupid to see what is happening out there. Mired in some kind of delusion that they can manipulate the will of the people and install their chosen candidate over the legitimate winner.

Tend to your own nightmare, Remus...you have more than enough problems of your own.

 

[washamericom]

Okay... So the Jeb candidacy idea tanked before it ever got started... Christie tanked... Rubio and Kasich are tanking... the Establishment is fresh out of Goobs to run against one Donald J. Trump and the proverbial fat lady is warming up her vocal chords... what do they do? Trot out MITTENS!

So now, apparently... Mitt Romney is going to jump in this thing, not to WIN the nomination, but just to siphon enough delegates off to keep Trump from winning on the first ballot and causing a brokered convention... Something Reince Priebus intimated several weeks ago, would not happen.

I really did hope the Establishment GOP would get the message when Jeb got lukewarm support. Especially when the Top 3 candidates at one time, were all "anti-establishment" candidates... Trump, Cruz and Carson... but nope... They actively sabotaged Carson and Cruz and have been trying to damage Trump to no avail. Rubio was their last hope and it's slowly going down the tubes as they watch in disbelief.

If they don't want Trump, it seems the logical choice would be to back Ted Cruz.. but they want Cruz even less than they want Trump. Folks, I'll be honest... I think we're watching history happen here... the DEATH of a political party in all it's ugliness. They are simply too stuck on stupid to see what is happening out there. Mired in some kind of delusion that they can manipulate the will of the people and install their chosen candidate over the legitimate winner.

parties come and go, freedom to choose is forever. cruz and rubio are just under natural born enough to tips the scales to the democrats, even if it's not litigated. they will use it as a severe tool, especially with cruz. their bumper stickers will say "a canadian born American president ?? really ??"

 

[Boss]

Wow.... And all this time I was totally expecting liberal democrat socialists to support the GOP nominee and party! No really... I thought you'd all be up in this thread cheering for Cruz or Trump... or maybe even praising Romney and the Establishment for their brilliant plan! Because you all come across as such upstanding and intelligent minds when it comes to politics and the pulse of America.

I guess all us "Republicans" should just go find an oven and stick our heads in it?

 

[Stratford57]

If they don't want Trump, it seems the logical choice would be to back Ted Cruz.. but they want Cruz even less than they want Trump. Folks, I'll be honest... I think we're watching history happen here... the DEATH of a political party in all it's ugliness. They are simply too stuck on stupid to see what is happening out there. Mired in some kind of delusion that they can manipulate the will of the people and install their chosen candidate over the legitimate winner.

Seems like this year a lot of hypocrisy is erupting. So much, that nobody could even think of. Everybody knew the elites were corrupted, but seems like this year we'll face a real shocking level of hypocrisy and corruption, which will keep coming up.

* Harlan K. Ullman, a shrewd American analyst, once noted that there used to be two parties in America – one had a conscience but no brains, and the other always had brains but no conscience. Now, Ullman notes, we have two completely identical parties with no brains and no conscience, and he questions the meaning of their existence.
America Forever?

* They will kill him before they let him be president. It could be a Republican or a Democrat that instigates the shutting up of Trump. Don't be surprised if Trump has an accident. Some people are getting very nervous: Barack Obama, Valerie Jarrett, Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton and Jon Corzine, to name just a few.
Interesting take on Trump.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Okay... So the Jeb candidacy idea tanked before it ever got started... Christie tanked... Rubio and Kasich are tanking... the Establishment is fresh out of Goobs to run against one Donald J. Trump and the proverbial fat lady is warming up her vocal chords... what do they do? Trot out MITTENS!

So now, apparently... Mitt Romney is going to jump in this thing, not to WIN the nomination, but just to siphon enough delegates off to keep Trump from winning on the first ballot and causing a brokered convention... Something Reince Priebus intimated several weeks ago, would not happen.

I really did hope the Establishment GOP would get the message when Jeb got lukewarm support. Especially when the Top 3 candidates at one time, were all "anti-establishment" candidates... Trump, Cruz and Carson... but nope... They actively sabotaged Carson and Cruz and have been trying to damage Trump to no avail. Rubio was their last hope and it's slowly going down the tubes as they watch in disbelief.

If they don't want Trump, it seems the logical choice would be to back Ted Cruz.. but they want Cruz even less than they want Trump. Folks, I'll be honest... I think we're watching history happen here... the DEATH of a political party in all it's ugliness. They are simply too stuck on stupid to see what is happening out there. Mired in some kind of delusion that they can manipulate the will of the people and install their chosen candidate over the legitimate winner.

Tend to your own nightmare, Remus...you have more than enough problems of your own.

agreed, beware of the leaven of the pharisees.

 

[Stratford57]

I guess all us "Republicans" should just go find an oven and stick our heads in it?

There is a much better solution: pick up your butt and go vote for Trump. No need to commit suicide if you can make those elites shoot themselves.

 

[defcon4]

If they don't want Trump, it seems the logical choice would be to back Ted Cruz..

To hell with 'em.

You have a pretty good chance here to run Trump/Cruz. It's sitting right there.

No excuses, do it the way you'd like and let's see what happens.
.

Cruz fucked it up with Trump...won't work even if Trump would go for it. How could Cruz explain all the shit he talked about Trump? Remember, he is the upstanding Christian guy with moral values... He cannot say: "Oh I just said bad things about Donald because of the competition..it wasn't true..."

 

[eagle1462010]

Okay... So the Jeb candidacy idea tanked before it ever got started... Christie tanked... Rubio and Kasich are tanking... the Establishment is fresh out of Goobs to run against one Donald J. Trump and the proverbial fat lady is warming up her vocal chords... what do they do? Trot out MITTENS!

So now, apparently... Mitt Romney is going to jump in this thing, not to WIN the nomination, but just to siphon enough delegates off to keep Trump from winning on the first ballot and causing a brokered convention... Something Reince Priebus intimated several weeks ago, would not happen.

I really did hope the Establishment GOP would get the message when Jeb got lukewarm support. Especially when the Top 3 candidates at one time, were all "anti-establishment" candidates... Trump, Cruz and Carson... but nope... They actively sabotaged Carson and Cruz and have been trying to damage Trump to no avail. Rubio was their last hope and it's slowly going down the tubes as they watch in disbelief.

If they don't want Trump, it seems the logical choice would be to back Ted Cruz.. but they want Cruz even less than they want Trump. Folks, I'll be honest... I think we're watching history happen here... the DEATH of a political party in all it's ugliness. They are simply too stuck on stupid to see what is happening out there. Mired in some kind of delusion that they can manipulate the will of the people and install their chosen candidate over the legitimate winner.

Perhaps the death of the party will bring a rebirth devoid of the establishment...............Their long hold on it is finally being attacked properly................If nothing else............it may be a wake up call to elected officials that they can be taken on with minimal money and put in their place by We the People.

Revolution is needed from time to time to fix the problem..............and America is absolutely in revolution against the establishment.............The ANGER is there in SPADES.............and the establishment sees a challenge to their power..........They will get Hillary elected before giving up their throne...............

They are the problem.............not the Insurgent candidates.............the problem is the uniformed voters as well........

 

[Mac1958]

If they don't want Trump, it seems the logical choice would be to back Ted Cruz..

To hell with 'em.

You have a pretty good chance here to run Trump/Cruz. It's sitting right there.

No excuses, do it the way you'd like and let's see what happens.
.

Cruz fucked it up with Trump...won't work even if Trump would go for it. How could Cruz explain all the shit he talked about Trump? Remember, he is the upstanding Christian guy with moral values... He cannot say: "Oh I just said bad things about Donald because of the competition..it wasn't true..."

Yeah, and Trump so often calling Cruz a liar.

Fuck it, this is politics, no one is expecting politicians to be accountable for their words.
.

 

[tyroneweaver]

I bet there's a record number that sit home on Nov 4th

 

[playtime]

Q: What are you doing, GOP?

A:

 

[Compost]

Trump isn't really anti establishment. He is simply pro Trump. At this point, what the GOP is doing is less important than what the People are doing. Vote Trump and you have a power mad guy who will do whatever to make a deal that is good for him and not likely good for the country. Vote for Clinton and you get a continuation of the Obama presidency also not good for the country.

Not much of a choice. It seems to me that our best bet for the future is at the local level- states exerting more control...

 

[Wilbur Right]

I guess all us "Republicans" should just go find an oven and stick our heads in it?

If I say "please" will you do the above?

 

[Wilbur Right]

Remember, he is the upstanding Christian guy with moral values... He cannot say: "Oh I just said bad things about Donald because of the competition..it wasn't true..."

Sure he can say that. He already has. When asked if he would vote for trump if he is the nominee, he said he would.

 

[defcon4]

Sure he can say that. He already has. When asked if he would vote for trump if he is the nominee, he said he would.

All of the said that at the end of the debate in answering the question. It is the right thing to do as long as it is fair play for everybody.