What are "Open Borders?"

[High_Gravity]

I used the term 'regulated border', not 'they'. I. Not hard... I am an individual. I speak for myself, not others - not 'they'. Idiot.

And, we have regulated borders - ie, people who come into the country by the front door are welcome. You - with the 'open border' bullshit - think we should allow anyone to come here without reference to their reasons for coming, whether they will drain our resources or add value to our society, whether they seek to harm us.... that's what 'open border' means.... I'd call you a halfwit but I'm not convince you're smart enough to qualify.

While you're making this a personality contest, you are showing your abject ignorance of the subject matter. Read this very slowly:

1) The United States demands that people come here "properly"

2) The United States has never created that "proper" method. In order to move past the bullshit and get to the brass tacks, here is a list of the visas:

List of american nonimmigrant and temporary visas

Presuppose that you are an immigrant wanting to come into the United States. You have a job offer from MickeyDs. Which visa would allow you to take that job?

3) Once you've figured out that, given the terms, no visa is applicable, you find out that there is no "proper" method whereby you can enter.

A visa system that allows one employer to hire a foreigner, but not allow another employer to hire foreigners is clearly unconstitutional. American employers have responded AND they have a legal and constitutional RIGHT to disobey unconstitutional laws.

The way you fix this is to create the applicable visa and regulate those who come here, get a Taxpayer Identification Number and play by the same rules as everybody else.

An immigrant wanting to come into the US to work at McDonalds? Why? Are you honestly trying to tell me that there are no Americans that can fill the job at McDonalds? Are you absolutely fucking nutz?

I'm telling ya, this guy is finding any excuse he can find for illegals to come here. With the unemployment we have there are plenty of Americans to work at McDonalds.

 

[Liability]

While you're making this a personality contest, you are showing your abject ignorance of the subject matter. Read this very slowly:

1) The United States demands that people come here "properly"

2) The United States has never created that "proper" method. In order to move past the bullshit and get to the brass tacks, here is a list of the visas:

List of american nonimmigrant and temporary visas

Presuppose that you are an immigrant wanting to come into the United States. You have a job offer from MickeyDs. Which visa would allow you to take that job?

3) Once you've figured out that, given the terms, no visa is applicable, you find out that there is no "proper" method whereby you can enter.

A visa system that allows one employer to hire a foreigner, but not allow another employer to hire foreigners is clearly unconstitutional. American employers have responded AND they have a legal and constitutional RIGHT to disobey unconstitutional laws.

The way you fix this is to create the applicable visa and regulate those who come here, get a Taxpayer Identification Number and play by the same rules as everybody else.

An immigrant wanting to come into the US to work at McDonalds? Why? Are you honestly trying to tell me that there are no Americans that can fill the job at McDonalds? Are you absolutely fucking nutz?

I'm telling ya, this guy is finding any excuse he can find for illegals to come here. With the unemployment we have there are plenty of Americans to work at McDonalds.

What's even funnier is that he imagines that the US has some obligation UNDER the CONSTITUTION to provide equal access and opportunity to aliens.

But, of course, BloodyDolt is just a doink and he's wrong.

We have every right to LIMIT the numbers of possible immigrants and to qualify their entry upon grounds which WE find desirable such as highly skilled individuals or scientists, etc.

There is exactly NO Constitutionally based "right" of any alien to enter into the USA other than by way of a treaty obligation.

 

[BuddyColt]

While you're making this a personality contest, you are showing your abject ignorance of the subject matter. Read this very slowly:

1) The United States demands that people come here "properly"

2) The United States has never created that "proper" method. In order to move past the bullshit and get to the brass tacks, here is a list of the visas:

List of american nonimmigrant and temporary visas

Presuppose that you are an immigrant wanting to come into the United States. You have a job offer from MickeyDs. Which visa would allow you to take that job?

3) Once you've figured out that, given the terms, no visa is applicable, you find out that there is no "proper" method whereby you can enter.

A visa system that allows one employer to hire a foreigner, but not allow another employer to hire foreigners is clearly unconstitutional. American employers have responded AND they have a legal and constitutional RIGHT to disobey unconstitutional laws.

The way you fix this is to create the applicable visa and regulate those who come here, get a Taxpayer Identification Number and play by the same rules as everybody else.

An immigrant wanting to come into the US to work at McDonalds? Why? Are you honestly trying to tell me that there are no Americans that can fill the job at McDonalds? Are you absolutely fucking nutz?

I'm telling ya, this guy is finding any excuse he can find for illegals to come here. With the unemployment we have there are plenty of Americans to work at McDonalds.

I heard this shit on another board. I offered a job at $9 an hour on that board. For all the bitching they did, not one swinging soul applied for the job. I finally gave it to a day laborer and he was grateful for the cash - so good I only needed him for half the time that had been allocated to get the job done.

You have a good line of shit to shoot these people, but it isn't true in the real world - not around here...

Illegal immigration crackdown impacts harvests - CBS News

 

[High_Gravity]

An immigrant wanting to come into the US to work at McDonalds? Why? Are you honestly trying to tell me that there are no Americans that can fill the job at McDonalds? Are you absolutely fucking nutz?

I'm telling ya, this guy is finding any excuse he can find for illegals to come here. With the unemployment we have there are plenty of Americans to work at McDonalds.

I heard this shit on another board. I offered a job at $9 an hour on that board. For all the bitching they did, not one swinging soul applied for the job. I finally gave it to a day laborer and he was grateful for the cash - so good I only needed him for half the time that had been allocated to get the job done.

You have a good line of shit to shoot these people, but it isn't true in the real world - not around here...

Illegal immigration crackdown impacts harvests - CBS News

You are a lying motherfucker, I know plenty of people who would take a $9 an hour job.

 

[High_Gravity]

An immigrant wanting to come into the US to work at McDonalds? Why? Are you honestly trying to tell me that there are no Americans that can fill the job at McDonalds? Are you absolutely fucking nutz?

I'm telling ya, this guy is finding any excuse he can find for illegals to come here. With the unemployment we have there are plenty of Americans to work at McDonalds.

What's even funnier is that he imagines that the US has some obligation UNDER the CONSTITUTION to provide equal access and opportunity to aliens.

But, of course, BloodyDolt is just a doink and he's wrong.

We have every right to LIMIT the numbers of possible immigrants and to qualify their entry upon grounds which WE ind desirable such as highly skilled individuals or scientists, etc.

There is exactly NO Constitutionally based "right" of any alien to enter into the USA other than by way of a treaty obligation.

You should have seen the thread where 52ndStreet criticized Venezuela for banning the sale of guns to their citizens, he accused VENEZUELA of violating the second amendment rights of their citizens. 52ndStreet must be DuddleyDolts twin brother.

 

[BuddyColt]

I'm telling ya, this guy is finding any excuse he can find for illegals to come here. With the unemployment we have there are plenty of Americans to work at McDonalds.

I heard this shit on another board. I offered a job at $9 an hour on that board. For all the bitching they did, not one swinging soul applied for the job. I finally gave it to a day laborer and he was grateful for the cash - so good I only needed him for half the time that had been allocated to get the job done.

You have a good line of shit to shoot these people, but it isn't true in the real world - not around here...

Illegal immigration crackdown impacts harvests - CBS News

You are a lying motherfucker, I know plenty of people who would take a $9 an hour job.

no family And no, I'm NOT lying. I will have a job opening for a few days next month. PM me if you want one of the positions.

 

[High_Gravity]

I heard this shit on another board. I offered a job at $9 an hour on that board. For all the bitching they did, not one swinging soul applied for the job. I finally gave it to a day laborer and he was grateful for the cash - so good I only needed him for half the time that had been allocated to get the job done.

You have a good line of shit to shoot these people, but it isn't true in the real world - not around here...

Illegal immigration crackdown impacts harvests - CBS News

You are a lying motherfucker, I know plenty of people who would take a $9 an hour job.

What did I say the last time you accused me of fucking your mother? And no, I'm NOT lying. I will have a job opening for a few days next month. PM me if you want one of the positions.

Uh of duddleydolts getting all unraveled making fun of family, tsk tsk.

 

[BuddyColt]

So far, everybody is trying to figure out who I'm kin to, who I've screwed and just how much smarter I am than those who can only resort to expletive deleteds in order to express themselves.

These guys seem not to be able to focus on the fact that there are more than undocumented foreigners that are affected by our draconian immigration laws.

Don't worry guys. I can promise you, long after I'm gone from this board, the foreigners will still be here and the ONLY thing you will accomplish is to forfeit your own Rights and Liberties.

You can silence me, but you can't kill reality and that has to suck for you. One day, you can look back and say that you once knew someone that took the time to look for a just solution that gave everybody what they wanted.

 

[Ravi]

At last, a responsive post. Thank You

1) Legalize and tax drugs. Now the Mexican government has a vested interest in manning the border and reducing the influence of drug cartels. The Mexican government would rather tax the drugs and have the money than to let drug lords get it. Cost to the U.S.? Nothing

2) According to the Socialist Security Administration's chief actuary, about 75 percent of those in the United States without papers have a Taxpayer Identification Number and pay the taxes, etc. just like you.

Creating the applicable visas that allow for Guest Workers with no automatic path to citizenship eliminates the bulk of undocumented workers. They've already shown their intent by getting the Taxpayer Identification Numbers, paying their bills, etc.

3) Reinstate an individual land owner's Right to protect their own private property. The government wants to tell individuals that only the government is allowed to protect property lines, taking away the Right and the obligation of the land owner to protect their land.

BTW, a special amendment to the new Guest Worker visa would stipulate that any offspring born to the immigrant retains the citizenship of their native country eliminates birth citizenship.

1. Good
2. Good
3. Property owners already have a right to protect their property

Your BTW, bad. We need loyal American citizens and current American citizens have a very low birth rate.

I don't see how I'm being "bad." The real issue with this lynch mob is that most of them don't like birth citizenship. The reality of our times is simple: Virtually every Mexican has an American citizen relative. Eventually those people can petition to get any relative with a clean record into the U.S.

America being part Hispanic is an inevitability that is cast in stone, barring a war between the United States in Mexico. I'm more concerned with maintaining my constitutional Liberties and unalienable Rights than I am giving the Hispanics a hard time, based upon nothing but class warfare.

BTW, factually I am right. In 2003 a man lost his ranch to some Salvadorans when the border watch group he enlisted got arrested for "violating the civil rights of those Salvadorans who were trespassing and coming into the U.S. improperly."

Had the government allowed property owners to defend their property, it would mean fewer miles that drug runners would have since private property owners would shoot first and ask questions later. Instead, we allow the government to do a job they can't do competently do it even worse. BTW, here is a link to what happened. I use that link since those guys won the case. Had the National Association of White People won it, I would have used their link:

Leiva v. Ranch Rescue | Southern Poverty Law Center

I didn't say YOU ARE bad. I said your btw was bad.

As for your example, they paramilitary force apparently physically harmed the trespassers. Not quite the same thing.

 

[High_Gravity]

So far, everybody is trying to figure out who I'm kin to, who I've screwed and just how much smarter I am than those who can only resort to expletive deleteds in order to express themselves.

These guys seem not to be able to focus on the fact that there are more than undocumented foreigners that are affected by our draconian immigration laws.

Don't worry guys. I can promise you, long after I'm gone from this board, the foreigners will still be here and the ONLY thing you will accomplish is to forfeit your own Rights and Liberties.

You can silence me, but you can't kill reality and that has to suck for you. One day, you can look back and say that you once knew someone that took the time to look for a just solution that gave everybody what they wanted.

Your retarded ass wants to completely open the borders to illegal immigrants, fuck you and the horse you rode in on you incompetent clown.

 

[Unkotare]

BloodyDolt is in favor of open borders. Anyone with a brain (which excludes him) knows what that means.

He will now gas on for 2,3497 pages about terms and concepts he doesn't understand and become quite upset at anyone who hasn't taken the same mushrooms he has.

So, what is YOU are for? You want a POLICE STATE?

That is what sane people call a 'false choice,' you numbskull.

 

[Ravi]

Damn, did I miss a meltdown? The guy has been toasted.

 

[Pho_King]

An immigrant wanting to come into the US to work at McDonalds? Why? Are you honestly trying to tell me that there are no Americans that can fill the job at McDonalds? Are you absolutely fucking nutz?

I'm telling ya, this guy is finding any excuse he can find for illegals to come here. With the unemployment we have there are plenty of Americans to work at McDonalds.

I heard this shit on another board. I offered a job at $9 an hour on that board. For all the bitching they did, not one swinging soul applied for the job. I finally gave it to a day laborer and he was grateful for the cash - so good I only needed him for half the time that had been allocated to get the job done.

You have a good line of shit to shoot these people, but it isn't true in the real world - not around here...

Illegal immigration crackdown impacts harvests - CBS News

in such a case you are able to petition to hire an alien on a temporary basis to do the job, numbskull. Or raise the wage offered.

 

[Pho_King]

So far, everybody is trying to figure out who I'm kin to, who I've screwed and just how much smarter I am than those who can only resort to expletive deleteds in order to express themselves.

These guys seem not to be able to focus on the fact that there are more than undocumented foreigners that are affected by our draconian immigration laws.

Don't worry guys. I can promise you, long after I'm gone from this board, the foreigners will still be here and the ONLY thing you will accomplish is to forfeit your own Rights and Liberties.

You can silence me, but you can't kill reality and that has to suck for you. One day, you can look back and say that you once knew someone that took the time to look for a just solution that gave everybody what they wanted.

"Draconian immigration laws" HAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[High_Gravity]

HAHA DuddleyDolt is banned.