What are economists really good for?...nothing but propaganda

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The author I referred to above Steve Keen, says.

dear we can all cut and paste what authors say. The issue is do say anything??

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Milton also fell in love with Pinochet's dictatorship cult, so he had his good and bad sides..

if thats true I'll pay you $10,000. Bet??? He gave them the identical advice he gave the entire world: switch to to godly Republican capitalism.

 

[hipeter924]

Milton also fell in love with Pinochet's dictatorship cult, so he had his good and bad sides..

if thats true I'll pay you $10,000. Bet??? He gave them the identical advice he gave the entire world: switch to to godly Republican capitalism.

Not the entire world, only select countries. The mantra went that if you 'free the market' then you 'free the people'.

But in reality, it meant that the elite of nation x enriched themselves and used violence and coercion to establish the new system.

In Chile today, the reforms are being wound back by democratic socialists with popular support, proving that imposing free market capitalism through violence and coercion - is a revolution that dies the moment its adherents lose political power.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Debunking Economics - Revised and Expanded Edition The Naked Emperor Dethroned Steve Keen 9781848139923 Amazon.com Books

book talking about how the whole "profession" is bunk

bunk??? MIlton Friedman,an economist, told China to switch to capitalism, they did, and now instead of starving to death in the 10's of millions under liberal socialism they are getting rich. In fact Milton Friedman just eliminated 40% of world poverty with his gift to China.

It is safe to say conservative economists are Godly or saintly? Who in all of human history saved so many millions of lives from a certain liberal death??

Milton also fell in love with Pinochet's dictatorship cult, so he had his good and bad sides. Don't think the victims of Pinochet would cheer the bloody military coup, nor Milton's so called shock therapy.

Don't think the victims of Pinochet would cheer the bloody military coup

Communists are often sad when their victims fight back.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Milton also fell in love with Pinochet's dictatorship cult, so he had his good and bad sides..

if thats true I'll pay you $10,000. Bet??? He gave them the identical advice he gave the entire world: switch to to godly Republican capitalism.

Not the entire world, only select countries. The mantra went that if you 'free the market' then you 'free the people'.

But in reality, it meant that the elite of nation x enriched themselves and used violence and coercion to establish the new system.

In Chile today, the reforms are being wound back by democratic socialists with popular support, proving that imposing free market capitalism through violence and coercion - is a revolution that dies the moment its adherents lose political power.

But in reality, it meant that the elite of nation x enriched themselves and used violence and coercion to establish the new system.

Yeah, those Castro's are real bastards.....

 

[hipeter924]

Debunking Economics - Revised and Expanded Edition The Naked Emperor Dethroned Steve Keen 9781848139923 Amazon.com Books

book talking about how the whole "profession" is bunk

bunk??? MIlton Friedman,an economist, told China to switch to capitalism, they did, and now instead of starving to death in the 10's of millions under liberal socialism they are getting rich. In fact Milton Friedman just eliminated 40% of world poverty with his gift to China.

It is safe to say conservative economists are Godly or saintly? Who in all of human history saved so many millions of lives from a certain liberal death??

Milton also fell in love with Pinochet's dictatorship cult, so he had his good and bad sides. Don't think the victims of Pinochet would cheer the bloody military coup, nor Milton's so called shock therapy.

Don't think the victims of Pinochet would cheer the bloody military coup

Communists are often sad when their victims fight back.

You realize right, that most of Pinochet's victims weren't communists, but people his thugs decided to pick off the street and torture.

 

[hipeter924]

Milton also fell in love with Pinochet's dictatorship cult, so he had his good and bad sides..

if thats true I'll pay you $10,000. Bet??? He gave them the identical advice he gave the entire world: switch to to godly Republican capitalism.

Not the entire world, only select countries. The mantra went that if you 'free the market' then you 'free the people'.

But in reality, it meant that the elite of nation x enriched themselves and used violence and coercion to establish the new system.

In Chile today, the reforms are being wound back by democratic socialists with popular support, proving that imposing free market capitalism through violence and coercion - is a revolution that dies the moment its adherents lose political power.

But in reality, it meant that the elite of nation x enriched themselves and used violence and coercion to establish the new system.

Yeah, those Castro's are real bastards.....

Castro's were bad too, same goes for 'communist' revolutions, as imposing capitalism or communism by force undermines the whole point. As it can never be a truly free market or a 'worker's paradise' if people are forced by the barrel of a gun to follow it - rather than out of freedom of choice.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Debunking Economics - Revised and Expanded Edition The Naked Emperor Dethroned Steve Keen 9781848139923 Amazon.com Books

book talking about how the whole "profession" is bunk

bunk??? MIlton Friedman,an economist, told China to switch to capitalism, they did, and now instead of starving to death in the 10's of millions under liberal socialism they are getting rich. In fact Milton Friedman just eliminated 40% of world poverty with his gift to China.

It is safe to say conservative economists are Godly or saintly? Who in all of human history saved so many millions of lives from a certain liberal death??

Milton also fell in love with Pinochet's dictatorship cult, so he had his good and bad sides. Don't think the victims of Pinochet would cheer the bloody military coup, nor Milton's so called shock therapy.

Don't think the victims of Pinochet would cheer the bloody military coup

Communists are often sad when their victims fight back.

You realize right, that most of Pinochet's victims weren't communists, but people his thugs decided to pick off the street and torture.

Poor leftists.

 

[occupied]

Milton also fell in love with Pinochet's dictatorship cult, so he had his good and bad sides..

if thats true I'll pay you $10,000. Bet??? He gave them the identical advice he gave the entire world: switch to to godly Republican capitalism.

Not the entire world, only select countries. The mantra went that if you 'free the market' then you 'free the people'.

But in reality, it meant that the elite of nation x enriched themselves and used violence and coercion to establish the new system.

In Chile today, the reforms are being wound back by democratic socialists with popular support, proving that imposing free market capitalism through violence and coercion - is a revolution that dies the moment its adherents lose political power.

"Free market" capitalists do not like to discuss Chile because it is an extreme example of what happens when free market dogma is followed to the letter. The rich got richer, multinationals made a bunch of money but the working class people who live there suffered the torments of the damned in the name of profit.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

When all federal state and local taxes, fees, etc. are added together the working poor pay a large percentage of their income in taxes, no one gets off scot-free except the people who are adept at hiding income as the wealthy are.

When all federal state and local taxes, fees, etc. are added together the working poor pay a large percentage of their income in taxes

How much?

no one gets off scot-free except the people who are adept at hiding income as the wealthy are.

Scot free? But the top 10% pay 68% of all Federal income taxes.
Doesn't sound scot free to me.

They make the bulk of all income so it is fair that they pay the bulk of income taxes. That oft-quoted figure is the result of massive income inequality rather than an unfair tax structure.

They make the bulk of all income so it is fair that they pay the bulk of income taxes.

They make a lot less than 68% of all income.........

So what? They get off easy compared with the rest of the developed world, none of those taxes take food off their tables or deprive their children of basic needs, many conservative regressive tax schemes would do exactly that to America's working poor whom republicans do not give two shits about. The working poor and lower middle-class already carry the bulk of state and local revenue but you would be as happy as a clam to make them carry the federal government also.

So what? They get off easy compared with the rest of the developed world

So what? You originally claimed they were untaxed and untouched.

When all federal state and local taxes, fees, etc. are added together the working poor pay a large percentage of their income in taxes

You never answered. How much?

many conservative regressive tax schemes would do exactly that to America's working poor


Which regressive schemes? Any specifics? Or are you making stuff up?

The working poor and lower middle-class already carry the bulk of state and local revenue

California has been controlled by libs for decades.
How much do your sainted poor and lower middle-class carry there?

2014 California Tax Rates and Exemptions California Franchise Tax Board

Let me know the income level that puts you above lower middle-class.

I agree... the Poor are paying most of the tax load, because there's more of 'em.

So, there's no need to bust the balls of the few wealthy people out there with their carrying the bulk of the income tax. So let's just cut the income tax altogether.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Milton also fell in love with Pinochet's dictatorship cult, so he had his good and bad sides..

if thats true I'll pay you $10,000. Bet??? He gave them the identical advice he gave the entire world: switch to to godly Republican capitalism.

Not the entire world, only select countries. The mantra went that if you 'free the market' then you 'free the people'.

But in reality, it meant that the elite of nation x enriched themselves and used violence and coercion to establish the new system.

In Chile today, the reforms are being wound back by democratic socialists with popular support, proving that imposing free market capitalism through violence and coercion - is a revolution that dies the moment its adherents lose political power.

"Free market" capitalists do not like to discuss Chile because it is an extreme example of what happens when free market dogma is followed to the letter. The rich got richer, multinationals made a bunch of money but the working class people who live there suffered the torments of the damned in the name of profit.

LOL! So you're saying that people who reject principle caused problems?

Now what principles do the Left stand for again?

(The Reader can expect the conversation to dry right up here, as the Ideological Left resting entirely in Relativism, axiomatically rejects objectivity... and principle rests entirely in objectivity.)

 

[bripat9643]

Keynes seems to be the only answer to a recession or depression at this time, unless you have another solution. Maybe trickle-something is the answer?

Think he wants to use a bucket, till his boat capsizes, then blame 'liberals' for giving him too big a bucket. BritPat is still fuming from when Hoover lost to FDR.

You're just a jackass with no facts or logic to offer.

You're a fruit loop, in a recursive rage loop. Who obviously can't stop swearing.

"Jackass" isn't a swear word.

You live in curious alternate reality, where only your immature insults count. Now, you are down to semantics.

When does it end? I can answer that, when hell freezes over, and God decides it is time for ice skating.

Well, I'm certainly not going to stop insulting leftists because some imbecile like you is having a hissy fit over it. Such reactions are precisely why I do it.

 

[Marxist]

Think he wants to use a bucket, till his boat capsizes, then blame 'liberals' for giving him too big a bucket. BritPat is still fuming from when Hoover lost to FDR.

You're just a jackass with no facts or logic to offer.

You're a fruit loop, in a recursive rage loop. Who obviously can't stop swearing.

"Jackass" isn't a swear word.

You live in curious alternate reality, where only your immature insults count. Now, you are down to semantics.

When does it end? I can answer that, when hell freezes over, and God decides it is time for ice skating.

Well, I'm certainly not going to stop insulting leftists because some imbecile like you is having a hissy fit over it. Such reactions are precisely why I do it.

I hope this forum labels you for the idiot you are, you have openly supported Pinochet as a hero, endorsed his murders, admitted that anyone who supports communism/socialism deserved to die.. Fuck you.

 

[bripat9643]

You're just a jackass with no facts or logic to offer.

You're a fruit loop, in a recursive rage loop. Who obviously can't stop swearing.

"Jackass" isn't a swear word.

You live in curious alternate reality, where only your immature insults count. Now, you are down to semantics.

When does it end? I can answer that, when hell freezes over, and God decides it is time for ice skating.

Well, I'm certainly not going to stop insulting leftists because some imbecile like you is having a hissy fit over it. Such reactions are precisely why I do it.

I hope this forum labels you for the idiot you are, you have openly supported Pinochet as a hero, endorsed his murders, admitted that anyone who supports communism/socialism deserved to die.. Fuck you.

Anyone who helps a foreign communist slave state take over his country is a traitor who deserves to die.

Pinochet is a hero.

 

[Marxist]

You're a fruit loop, in a recursive rage loop. Who obviously can't stop swearing.

"Jackass" isn't a swear word.

You live in curious alternate reality, where only your immature insults count. Now, you are down to semantics.

When does it end? I can answer that, when hell freezes over, and God decides it is time for ice skating.

Well, I'm certainly not going to stop insulting leftists because some imbecile like you is having a hissy fit over it. Such reactions are precisely why I do it.

I hope this forum labels you for the idiot you are, you have openly supported Pinochet as a hero, endorsed his murders, admitted that anyone who supports communism/socialism deserved to die.. Fuck you.

Anyone who helps a foreign communist slave states take over his country is a traitor who deserves to die.

Pinochet is a hero.

This right here folks, this shit right here. You're not even denying it. What, did castro commit mass starvation and prop up gulags everywhere? No, you fucking numbskull. But we do know what pinochet did, he was a psychotic dictator who the united states supported.

 

[hipeter924]

You're just a jackass with no facts or logic to offer.

You're a fruit loop, in a recursive rage loop. Who obviously can't stop swearing.

"Jackass" isn't a swear word.

You live in curious alternate reality, where only your immature insults count. Now, you are down to semantics.

When does it end? I can answer that, when hell freezes over, and God decides it is time for ice skating.

Well, I'm certainly not going to stop insulting leftists because some imbecile like you is having a hissy fit over it. Such reactions are precisely why I do it.

I hope this forum labels you for the idiot you are, you have openly supported Pinochet as a hero, endorsed his murders, admitted that anyone who supports communism/socialism deserved to die.. Fuck you.

Just ignore Bripat, as he goes around trying to piss off people he disagrees with. It is funny and sad at the same time, and trying to get through to him is impossible (without drilling a hole in his head).

 

[hipeter924]

"Jackass" isn't a swear word.

You live in curious alternate reality, where only your immature insults count. Now, you are down to semantics.

When does it end? I can answer that, when hell freezes over, and God decides it is time for ice skating.

Well, I'm certainly not going to stop insulting leftists because some imbecile like you is having a hissy fit over it. Such reactions are precisely why I do it.

I hope this forum labels you for the idiot you are, you have openly supported Pinochet as a hero, endorsed his murders, admitted that anyone who supports communism/socialism deserved to die.. Fuck you.

Anyone who helps a foreign communist slave states take over his country is a traitor who deserves to die.

Pinochet is a hero.

This right here folks, this shit right here. You're not even denying it. What, did castro commit mass starvation and prop up gulags everywhere? No, you fucking numbskull. But we do know what pinochet did, he was a psychotic dictator who the united states supported.

Ironic when people that claim they ' support the constitution', but endorse a different system like fascism and dictatorship for the rest of the world. He would be cheerleading for Saddam - if he hasn't made the mistake of invading Kuwait, that you can be certain of.

 

[kaz]

I don't admire economists, as the major ones made up this nonsense about a free market leading to a free society or about democracy leading to a free economy.

Actually economics has nothing to do with "society" or "democracy," it's about economics, what are you talking about? Where do you get this nonsense?

 

[bripat9643]

You live in curious alternate reality, where only your immature insults count. Now, you are down to semantics.

When does it end? I can answer that, when hell freezes over, and God decides it is time for ice skating.

Well, I'm certainly not going to stop insulting leftists because some imbecile like you is having a hissy fit over it. Such reactions are precisely why I do it.

I hope this forum labels you for the idiot you are, you have openly supported Pinochet as a hero, endorsed his murders, admitted that anyone who supports communism/socialism deserved to die.. Fuck you.

Anyone who helps a foreign communist slave states take over his country is a traitor who deserves to die.

Pinochet is a hero.

This right here folks, this shit right here. You're not even denying it. What, did castro commit mass starvation and prop up gulags everywhere? No, you fucking numbskull. But we do know what pinochet did, he was a psychotic dictator who the united states supported.

Ironic when people that claim they ' support the constitution', but endorse a different system like fascism and dictatorship for the rest of the world. He would be cheerleading for Saddam - if he hasn't made the mistake of invading Kuwait, that you can be certain of.

I don't endorse dictatorship, numskull, but a capitalist dictatorship is far preferable to a communist dictatorship like the kind that Allende was planning to impose. We have fascism right here in the U.S.A. It's the economic system you and all the libturds favor.

 

[bripat9643]

"Jackass" isn't a swear word.

You live in curious alternate reality, where only your immature insults count. Now, you are down to semantics.

When does it end? I can answer that, when hell freezes over, and God decides it is time for ice skating.

Well, I'm certainly not going to stop insulting leftists because some imbecile like you is having a hissy fit over it. Such reactions are precisely why I do it.

I hope this forum labels you for the idiot you are, you have openly supported Pinochet as a hero, endorsed his murders, admitted that anyone who supports communism/socialism deserved to die.. Fuck you.

Anyone who helps a foreign communist slave states take over his country is a traitor who deserves to die.

Pinochet is a hero.

This right here folks, this shit right here. You're not even denying it. What, did castro commit mass starvation and prop up gulags everywhere? No, you fucking numbskull. But we do know what pinochet did, he was a psychotic dictator who the united states supported.

There are plenty of gulags in Cuba, and the people have been on the verge of starvation for 60 years. Mass executions were the rule immediately after the revolution. Now they just put people in prison and throw away the key.