WH Fiscal Cliff Offer Includes Unlimited Executive Power to Raise Debt Ceiling

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    WH Fiscal Cliff Offer Includes Unlimited Executive Power to Raise Debt Ceiling​



    by Tony Lee
    30 Nov 2012

    Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, President Barack Obama's point man on the fiscal cliff negotiations, presented Republican leaders a proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff on Thursday, which gives Obama unprecedented powers to raise the debt ceiling whenever he wants.




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    This is the President's initial offer and it's loaded with a lot of stuff which can be negotiated away, allowing the GOP to claim a "victory." It's a bargaining chip and a good one. In any negotiation, you never start with your baseline because there's nowhere to go from there but down and you never corner your opponent and force him to surrender. You gotta leave room for "face saving," especially in politics.

    And, the GOP recognizes it as such, regardless of their outraged rhetoric.

    If they're REALLY serious about this, they'll soon offer a counter-proposal larded with THEIR best case scenario.

    In the end, they'll reach an agreement which satisfies nobody and which each can claim as a victory. That's the sign of a good compromise.

    Unless, of course, the GOP digs in along ideological grounds and commits political suicide. I don't look for that to happen, do you?
     
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    The next demand from Obama will be similar to Joe Stalin and/or Mao Zedong, "Dictatorship." Maybe Bill Ayers' dream of a killing 25 million Americans will come true.
     
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    The government is like a teenage girl that can't wait for the next credit card to come in the mail.
     
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    Doesn't really sound like a president ready to cut spending and compromise now does it?
     
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    You know what would be so helpful is if you rw nutters would EDUCATE yourselves concerning the debt ceiling.

    You didn't have a clue last time and you don't this time either.

    I'm serious. You do not know what the debt ceiling is. If you did, you would not post something THIS stooopid.
     

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