We’ve Known for Months 3 Factors Are Massively Inflating COVID’s Fatality Count.

[bripat9643]

The official statistics on COVID deaths are a scam.

We've Known for Months 3 Factors Are Massively Inflating COVID's Fatality Count. Trump Needs to Appoint a Commission to Find Out the Truth​

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Few Americans know that a local CBS affiliate examined 589 alleged Palm Beach, Florida fatalities and discovered that far less than a third (169) had actually died of the virus.​

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Most are unaware that the COVID-19 death tally they’ve been terrorized with for months has included motor-cycle fatalities and gunshot victims.​

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Factor 1. Anyone who dies and is diagnosed with COVID-19 gets put on the fatality list regardless of how mild their symptoms were or any proof that something else was the real culprit. ​

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According to Coronavirus Task Force coordinator, Dr. Birx herself:​

If someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death.​

The unofficial mascot of our response to COVID-19, Dr. Fauci said:​

I can’t imagine if someone comes in with coronavirus, goes to an ICU, and they have an underlying heart condition and they die—they’re going to say, ‘Cause of death: heart attack.’ I cannot see that happening.​

For whatever reason, the bureaucrats in charge have decided on guidelines that are bound to add a lot of people who would have died of some other cause anyway to COVID-19’s death tally. They haven’t just admitted it; they’ve bragged of it.​

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Given that 80% of COVID-19 infections don’t cause severe symptoms and 40% cause none at all, of course, you’re going to find people who died from gunshots wounds, road accidents, and every other normally occurring cause of death comprising a lot or even the vast majority of COVID-19’s official death tally.​

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Dying WITH the virus is being intentionally conflated with dying FROM it.​

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So is dying WITHOUT it:​

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Factor 2. The CDC has officially directed physicians to put COVID-19 on death certificates even without any confirming test so long as they’ve “assumed” the deceased had it.​

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A March 24 Q&A-style memo from the CDC instructing doctors on how to fill out death certificates was explicit:​

Q: Should “COVID-19” be reported on the death certificate only with a confirmed test?​

A: COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death.​

No reason for the “assumption” is required. And the emphasis at the end isn’t even mine. It’s the CDC’s.​

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Moreover, notice that doctors don’t even need to “assume” the deceased wouldn’t have died but for contracting the virus. Assuming it was merely a contributing factor is sufficient to mean not only that they can but that they should cite it.​

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So the mere assumption that COVID-19 hastened the death of someone suffering from some other mortal ailment by a few days or even a few minutes is good enough.​

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Adding people who die to COVID-19’s death tally is being encouraged not just without a test but without any medical justification whatsoever.​

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It also pays well:​

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Factor 3. Hospitals are being reimbursed for treating any uninsured patients they diagnose with COVID-19. Medicare is also paying out more when the COVID-19-box is checked.​

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So, on top of directives that guarantee a lot of death certificates are identifying COVID-19 as a cause even though the patient would have died without it and in many cases likely never even had it, there are also enormous financial incentives to create more.​

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As Dr. Scott Jensen, told Laura Ingraham way back on April 9:​

If that COVID-19 patient goes on a ventilator, you get $39,000; three times as much. Nobody can tell me, after 35 years in the world of medicine, that sometimes those kinds of things [don’t have an] impact on what we do.​

In other words, when you incentivize something – whether it’s solar power, illegitimacy, or false medical diagnoses – you get more of it.​

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The question isn’t whether COVID-19’s fatality numbers are inflated. It’s by how much.​

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Given the factors listed above – just as the results of examing those 589 deaths in Florida suggested – the true number can’t be anywhere close to what we’re hearing.​

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Moreover, some overlooked data from New York City – which at present accounts for around 15% of all reported U.S. fatalities – provides another reason to think the number of bogus reported deaths may dwarf the number of real ones.​

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For a while New York was examining their list of fatalities to determine if decedents had any other serious medical conditions and releasing updated results daily. For whatever reason, the last day on which they did so appears to be May 17. But as of then, of the 12,667 reported COVID-19 deaths for which they were able to determine whether other comorbidities were present, only 96 failed to have any.​

That means that over 99.2 percent were suffering from at least one of the following ailments: Diabetes, Lung Disease, Cancer, Immunodeficiency, Heart Disease, Hypertension, Asthma, Kidney Disease, GI/Liver Disease, or Obesity.

Many likely had several of them.

In order to know what exactly to make of these results, we’d need to know how many suffered from ailments serious enough to cause death in the near term regardless of COVID-19. But, given that there are bound to be some cases in which comorbidities went undetected, 99.2% is basically all of them.

Actually, it found 169 that did not list other contributing factor--in other words completely healthy people.

The rest had other factors. And there were eight who tested positive, but did not have it specifically listed as a cause of death.

I-Team: Deaths incorrectly attributed to COVID-19 in Palm Beach County

A 60-year-old man who died from a gun shot wound to the head. A 90-year-old man who fell and died from complications of a hip fracture. A 77-year-old woman who died of Parkinson's disease. These are some of the deaths in Palm Beach County recently, and incorrectly, attributed to COVID-19 in...

cbs12.com

Original source material is more accurate than the spin of right-wing "news" aggregators, whose only purpose is to kill poorer Americans.

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In other words, exactly what the article said. The rest did not mention COVID as a cause of death, moron.

 

[BluesLegend]

Before this virus.....7900 people died EVERY SINGLE DAY

Dems: OMG shut down the world ALARM...then...you know blame Trump.

 

[bripat9643]

Horseshit. There are no under counts. The statistics are pure horseshit.

How much is Biden paying you to post on this message board?

What about nursing home deaths. They were routinely under reported.

Were they?

 

[Slade3200]

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

Propaganda.

That’s what people who aren’t conspiratorial fringe say about your original post.

The death statistics are bogus. That much is obvious.

There is 1 major factor inflating COVID deaths and it is this retarded movement trying to discredit the seriousness of it. Fighting against wearing masks, social distancing, quarantines, testing, and acting like the whole thing is a hoax. That’s why our problems persist and why we aren’t in control like other major countries. You picked the wrong fight this time and you’re perpetuating the problem that we all want to see go away.

 

[Slade3200]

Before this virus.....7900 people died EVERY SINGLE DAY

Dems: OMG shut down the world ALARM...then...you know blame Trump.

Sounds smarter then denying reality and pretending that magic is gonna make it all go away.

 

[kaz]

Herman Cain's death...how many in the liberal news media bothered to note the guy had colon cancer that had spread to his liver and his immune system was compromised? Instead the SPIN was Trump killed Cain.

So what? Are you saying Cain died of colon cancer or what?

This is how stupid Democrats are. You can't process that a combination of factors could have caused his death. His system was weaker because of his cancer, but he also had the Biden virus. The combination was too much for him.

But in your typical black and white leftist style, it has to be one or the other. You can't process there being a combination of factors. You're just flat out too bigoted and biased and you're not smart enough to realize there could be multiple causes for something

colfax says: So which is it, black or white? Answer the question. It's either black or white. So which one?

But for COVID, Herman Cain would be alive today.

Therefore, cause of death includes COVID and it is rightly counted in the statistics. Same for nearly every other death reported.

Maybe ......maybe not............Cancer kills quickly at times...........My Sister N law went very quick from it.......

either way.......by definition ........they have purposely JACKED UP THE NUMBERS.....so people like you use the stats for FEAR MONGERING

Cain’s cancer diagnosis was in 2006. He’s been in remission for about a decade. I’d be extremely skeptical that his prior diagnosis has anything to do with his death.

And ... colfax pulls it out of his ass ... again ...

https://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatments-and-side-effects/physical-side-effects/low-blood-counts/infections/why-people-with-cancer-are-at-risk.html

You're not going to man up to admitting you were wrong, are you?

I've only known one leftist ever on this board who has a pair. bodecea made a bet with me that the Republicans would impeach Obama, I said no. The best was six months of the loser getting to write a statement to be put in the winners sig. bodecea lost and honored the bet. In fact I believe it was in her sig for a bit more than six months.

Not one other leftist on the board has either honored a bet or admitted you were wrong when I gave you a link. When leftists on this board meet, bodecea has the only set of balls I've seen

 

[meaner gene]

To get to a real death rate, we really need to compare overall deaths year by year. That tells you far more accurately how many people died because of the Biden virus. Counting everyone where the Biden virus is a factor as a Biden virus death overcounts deaths. It gives you a political number, not a real number. Of course that's what you actually want, so you're fine with that. But there are people (many, many people) smarter than you who know what you're doing and can tell you what's wrong with it

Were the deaths from H1N1 similarly "overcounted" After all, the same criteria used then, is being used now.

 

[bripat9643]

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

Propaganda.

That’s what people who aren’t conspiratorial fringe say about your original post.

The death statistics are bogus. That much is obvious.

There is 1 major factor inflating COVID deaths and it is this retarded movement trying to discredit the seriousness of it. Fighting against wearing masks, social distancing, quarantines, testing, and acting like the whole thing is a hoax. That’s why our problems persist and why we aren’t in control like other major countries. You picked the wrong fight this time and you’re perpetuating the problem that we all want to see go away.

Thanks for the propaganda injection. Did you have anything else that is totally unsubstantiated to post?

 

[bripat9643]

To get to a real death rate, we really need to compare overall deaths year by year. That tells you far more accurately how many people died because of the Biden virus. Counting everyone where the Biden virus is a factor as a Biden virus death overcounts deaths. It gives you a political number, not a real number. Of course that's what you actually want, so you're fine with that. But there are people (many, many people) smarter than you who know what you're doing and can tell you what's wrong with it

Were the deaths from H1N1 similarly "overcounted" After all, the same criteria used then, is being used now.

Wrong.

 

[kaz]

Yep. Particularly did you read the article? The death projections were only based on a model, not actual data. It's incredible anyone who thinks they are in the news business would publish that headline when they only have a "model" to back it up. When you create a model only, you can project whatever the hell you want with it

You must know that everything from the weather forecast to the current population are based on models.

OK, since you're stupid and all, I'll explain it again.

What they do to create meaningful models is create models and validate it with data. They must have predictive powers based on extrapolated data to be validated.

I did not say models are useless, I pointed out if you read that article they did NOT validate it with data, they only based it on a model.

You really don't understand the difference, do you, no nuts?

Here's a ball. Look, it's bouncy. Now run along and play outside ...

 

[Slade3200]

Herman Cain's death...how many in the liberal news media bothered to note the guy had colon cancer that had spread to his liver and his immune system was compromised? Instead the SPIN was Trump killed Cain.

So what? Are you saying Cain died of colon cancer or what?

This is how stupid Democrats are. You can't process that a combination of factors could have caused his death. His system was weaker because of his cancer, but he also had the Biden virus. The combination was too much for him.

But in your typical black and white leftist style, it has to be one or the other. You can't process there being a combination of factors. You're just flat out too bigoted and biased and you're not smart enough to realize there could be multiple causes for something

colfax says: So which is it, black or white? Answer the question. It's either black or white. So which one?

But for COVID, Herman Cain would be alive today.

Therefore, cause of death includes COVID and it is rightly counted in the statistics. Same for nearly every other death reported.

Maybe ......maybe not............Cancer kills quickly at times...........My Sister N law went very quick from it.......

either way.......by definition ........they have purposely JACKED UP THE NUMBERS.....so people like you use the stats for FEAR MONGERING

Cain’s cancer diagnosis was in 2006. He’s been in remission for about a decade. I’d be extremely skeptical that his prior diagnosis has anything to do with his death.

And ... colfax pulls it out of his ass ... again ...

https://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatments-and-side-effects/physical-side-effects/low-blood-counts/infections/why-people-with-cancer-are-at-risk.html

You're not going to man up to admitting you were wrong, are you?

I've only known one leftist ever on this board who has a pair. bodecea made a bet with me that the Republicans would impeach Obama, I said no. The best was six months of the loser getting to write a statement to be put in the winners sig. bodecea lost and honored the bet. In fact I believe it was in her sig for a bit more than six months.

Not one other leftist on the board has either honored a bet or admitted you were wrong when I gave you a link. When leftists on this board meet, bodecea has the only set of balls I've seen

Im curious if you’ve ever admitted to being wrong on this board and if so to what?

 

[eagle1462010]

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

Propaganda.

That’s what people who aren’t conspiratorial fringe say about your original post.

The death statistics are bogus. That much is obvious.

There is 1 major factor inflating COVID deaths and it is this retarded movement trying to discredit the seriousness of it. Fighting against wearing masks, social distancing, quarantines, testing, and acting like the whole thing is a hoax. That’s why our problems persist and why we aren’t in control like other major countries. You picked the wrong fight this time and you’re perpetuating the problem that we all want to see go away.

Quarantine the sick .......not the healthy...........protect the ones vulnerable.....not the ones who it hardly effects at all............All we have done is prolong this situation THAT WILL RUN IT'S COURSE......and destroy the economy..................

Until Mother Nature is done with us..........this will continue..........And there isn't a damned thing you can do about it......and a cloth mask doesn't do shit.

 

[BluesLegend]

Before this virus.....7900 people died EVERY SINGLE DAY

Dems: OMG shut down the world ALARM...then...you know blame Trump.

Sounds smarter then denying reality and pretending that magic is gonna make it all go away.

Why don't you Dems try controlling the sun's emissions and our path around the milky way. Humans are still here after thousands of years of viruses.

 

[Slade3200]

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

Propaganda.

That’s what people who aren’t conspiratorial fringe say about your original post.

The death statistics are bogus. That much is obvious.

There is 1 major factor inflating COVID deaths and it is this retarded movement trying to discredit the seriousness of it. Fighting against wearing masks, social distancing, quarantines, testing, and acting like the whole thing is a hoax. That’s why our problems persist and why we aren’t in control like other major countries. You picked the wrong fight this time and you’re perpetuating the problem that we all want to see go away.

Thanks for the propaganda injection. Did you have anything else that is totally unsubstantiated to post?

Everything I said is substantiated. How do you think this virus is spreading? Give a straight answer

 

[colfax_m]

Herman Cain's death...how many in the liberal news media bothered to note the guy had colon cancer that had spread to his liver and his immune system was compromised? Instead the SPIN was Trump killed Cain.

So what? Are you saying Cain died of colon cancer or what?

This is how stupid Democrats are. You can't process that a combination of factors could have caused his death. His system was weaker because of his cancer, but he also had the Biden virus. The combination was too much for him.

But in your typical black and white leftist style, it has to be one or the other. You can't process there being a combination of factors. You're just flat out too bigoted and biased and you're not smart enough to realize there could be multiple causes for something

colfax says: So which is it, black or white? Answer the question. It's either black or white. So which one?

But for COVID, Herman Cain would be alive today.

Therefore, cause of death includes COVID and it is rightly counted in the statistics. Same for nearly every other death reported.

Maybe ......maybe not............Cancer kills quickly at times...........My Sister N law went very quick from it.......

either way.......by definition ........they have purposely JACKED UP THE NUMBERS.....so people like you use the stats for FEAR MONGERING

Cain’s cancer diagnosis was in 2006. He’s been in remission for about a decade. I’d be extremely skeptical that his prior diagnosis has anything to do with his death.

And ... colfax pulls it out of his ass ... again ...

https://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatments-and-side-effects/physical-side-effects/low-blood-counts/infections/why-people-with-cancer-are-at-risk.html

You're not going to man up to admitting you were wrong, are you?

I've only known one leftist ever on this board who has a pair. bodecea made a bet with me that the Republicans would impeach Obama, I said no. The best was six months of the loser getting to write a statement to be put in the winners sig. bodecea lost and honored the bet. In fact I believe it was in her sig for a bit more than six months.

Not one other leftist on the board has either honored a bet or admitted you were wrong when I gave you a link. When leftists on this board meet, bodecea has the only set of balls I've seen

There is nothing here for me to admit being wrong about.

He was in remission, meaning no signs of disease. He was not on therapy, meaning his immune system was not affected. He had no reason to be malnourished because of his cancer that wasn’t being treated and had no signs of recurrence.

 

[Slade3200]

Before this virus.....7900 people died EVERY SINGLE DAY

Dems: OMG shut down the world ALARM...then...you know blame Trump.

Sounds smarter then denying reality and pretending that magic is gonna make it all go away.

Why don't you Dems try controlling the sun's emissions and our path around the milky way. Humans are still here after thousands of years of viruses.

Meanwhile South Korea is having crowds attended baseball games as we speak. They didn’t get the virus under control by changing the path of the sun. Think about it

 

[kaz]

Herman Cain's death...how many in the liberal news media bothered to note the guy had colon cancer that had spread to his liver and his immune system was compromised? Instead the SPIN was Trump killed Cain.

So what? Are you saying Cain died of colon cancer or what?

This is how stupid Democrats are. You can't process that a combination of factors could have caused his death. His system was weaker because of his cancer, but he also had the Biden virus. The combination was too much for him.

But in your typical black and white leftist style, it has to be one or the other. You can't process there being a combination of factors. You're just flat out too bigoted and biased and you're not smart enough to realize there could be multiple causes for something

colfax says: So which is it, black or white? Answer the question. It's either black or white. So which one?

But for COVID, Herman Cain would be alive today.

Therefore, cause of death includes COVID and it is rightly counted in the statistics. Same for nearly every other death reported.

Maybe ......maybe not............Cancer kills quickly at times...........My Sister N law went very quick from it.......

either way.......by definition ........they have purposely JACKED UP THE NUMBERS.....so people like you use the stats for FEAR MONGERING

Cain’s cancer diagnosis was in 2006. He’s been in remission for about a decade. I’d be extremely skeptical that his prior diagnosis has anything to do with his death.

Okay Doctor colfax tell us what cancer meds he was on and other health issues he had.

He wasn’t on cancer meds. He was in remission.

Again ...

https://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatments-and-side-effects/physical-side-effects/low-blood-counts/infections/why-people-with-cancer-are-at-risk.html

 

[colfax_m]

Herman Cain's death...how many in the liberal news media bothered to note the guy had colon cancer that had spread to his liver and his immune system was compromised? Instead the SPIN was Trump killed Cain.

So what? Are you saying Cain died of colon cancer or what?

This is how stupid Democrats are. You can't process that a combination of factors could have caused his death. His system was weaker because of his cancer, but he also had the Biden virus. The combination was too much for him.

But in your typical black and white leftist style, it has to be one or the other. You can't process there being a combination of factors. You're just flat out too bigoted and biased and you're not smart enough to realize there could be multiple causes for something

colfax says: So which is it, black or white? Answer the question. It's either black or white. So which one?

But for COVID, Herman Cain would be alive today.

Therefore, cause of death includes COVID and it is rightly counted in the statistics. Same for nearly every other death reported.

Maybe ......maybe not............Cancer kills quickly at times...........My Sister N law went very quick from it.......

either way.......by definition ........they have purposely JACKED UP THE NUMBERS.....so people like you use the stats for FEAR MONGERING

Cain’s cancer diagnosis was in 2006. He’s been in remission for about a decade. I’d be extremely skeptical that his prior diagnosis has anything to do with his death.

Okay Doctor colfax tell us what cancer meds he was on and other health issues he had.

He wasn’t on cancer meds. He was in remission.

Again ...

https://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatments-and-side-effects/physical-side-effects/low-blood-counts/infections/why-people-with-cancer-are-at-risk.html

I read it. What part of it do you think applies to Herman Cain?

Don’t just wave a link around. Paste the text you think shows your point.

 

[eagle1462010]

Number of deaths in the United States today as of Monday, May 13, 2024 at 4:52:03 AM

1,573 people have died in the United States today so far. A person dies approximately every 11.14 seconds.

www.indexmundi.com

 

[kaz]

Herman Cain's death...how many in the liberal news media bothered to note the guy had colon cancer that had spread to his liver and his immune system was compromised? Instead the SPIN was Trump killed Cain.

So what? Are you saying Cain died of colon cancer or what?

This is how stupid Democrats are. You can't process that a combination of factors could have caused his death. His system was weaker because of his cancer, but he also had the Biden virus. The combination was too much for him.

But in your typical black and white leftist style, it has to be one or the other. You can't process there being a combination of factors. You're just flat out too bigoted and biased and you're not smart enough to realize there could be multiple causes for something

colfax says: So which is it, black or white? Answer the question. It's either black or white. So which one?

But for COVID, Herman Cain would be alive today.

Therefore, cause of death includes COVID and it is rightly counted in the statistics. Same for nearly every other death reported.

To get to a real death rate, we really need to compare overall deaths year by year. That tells you far more accurately how many people died because of the Biden virus. Counting everyone where the Biden virus is a factor as a Biden virus death overcounts deaths. It gives you a political number, not a real number. Of course that's what you actually want, so you're fine with that. But there are people (many, many people) smarter than you who know what you're doing and can tell you what's wrong with it

Zero discussion in the liberal news media about the covid shutdowns preventing early detection and treatment of many other leading causes of death, total crickets because it doesn't fit the narrative.

Yep. Other death rates are down because they are being counted as Biden virus cases. It's obvious and any worthwhile media that cared at all about facts would point it out