Well that didn't take long

[P@triot]

What do you base that on? The US federal minimum wage was introduced during the Depression with the Fair Labor Standards Act, and I don't believe it was promoted as being for 16 year olds living off of their parents' income.

It was to insure that the market didn't take advantage of people which couldn't happen today. Believe it or not, at one time we were a country where you worked or starved. Today if the pay isn't adequate enough, you go on some social program to subsidize the rest, or just not work and go on social programs.

Not only that, but with technology today, people go to social media and obliterate a company if they screw employees. There were no PR capabilities like that for people in the 1800’s and 1900’s.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What do you base that on? The US federal minimum wage was introduced during the Depression with the Fair Labor Standards Act, and I don't believe it was promoted as being for 16 year olds living off of their parents' income.

It was to insure that the market didn't take advantage of people which couldn't happen today. Believe it or not, at one time we were a country where you worked or starved. Today if the pay isn't adequate enough, you go on some social program to subsidize the rest, or just not work and go on social programs.

Not only that, but with technology today, people go to social media and obliterate a company if they screw employees. There were no PR capabilities like that for people in the 1800’s and 1900’s.

I don't think anybody is worried about that as liberals have been doing that the last several years with Walmart and such. It really didn't affect them any. But the MW law was a security measure because there really were no social programs back then. If somebody offered you 3 bucks an hour to work today, you'd be better off on food stamps and welfare.

So in reality, we no longer need minimum wage laws. Especially in this economy, very few are working for minimum wage these days. Most McDonald's offer more than MW to attract workers.

 

[P@triot]

I don't think anybody is worried about that as liberals have been doing that the last several years with Walmart and such.

Yeah...and it’s been all lies. Look what has happened to companies that have had actual scandals. Very few have been able to survive the social media onslaught.

 

[Montrovant]

That's not an answer.

Yes it is. You just don’t like it.

I'm not arguing the merits of minimum wage, I'm asking what makes you think it was designed for the reason you say it was.

What makes you think it wasn’t?!? This is so self-evident I can’t believe you need it explained to you. It is the minimum wage. It’s designed for entry level work (ie 16 year olds getting their first job). It is not designed to raise a family of off.

Self-evident? As Ray pointed out (and you gave him a winner for the post, lol), minimum wage was not designed "for 16 year olds getting their first job," but to prevent the sort of employers taking advantage, sweatshop conditions which used to apply. When the federal minimum wage was first passed as law, child labor was still federally legal. The same act which gave us federal MW also set age limits on children working. The act was also passed during the Depression, as I've pointed out, when people were far less worried about "16 year olds getting their first job" and more concerned with the average adult being able to find some sort of work.

Certainly minimum wage jobs are, in large part, held by younger workers; I read that approximately 50% of minimum wage jobs in the US are held by those 25 and under. However, your claim was about what minimum wage was designed for. Apparently you feel that, despite evidence to the contrary, your own opinion about why it must have been designed is the correct one.

 

[P@triot]

Certainly minimum wage jobs are, in large part, held by younger workers;

Bingo! Now you’re catching on. Well done.

Minimum wage is not designed to raise a family on. If you think it is - then go for it. But please post your results here on USMB so we can all have a good laugh.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Self-evident? As Ray pointed out (and you gave him a winner for the post, lol), minimum wage was not designed "for 16 year olds getting their first job," but to prevent the sort of employers taking advantage, sweatshop conditions which used to apply. When the federal minimum wage was first passed as law, child labor was still federally legal. The same act which gave us federal MW also set age limits on children working. The act was also passed during the Depression, as I've pointed out, when people were far less worried about "16 year olds getting their first job" and more concerned with the average adult being able to find some sort of work.

That begs the question of why a need to increase it today or the last couple of years?

Leftist have this delusion that when they pass taxes, costly regulations or both, the rich guy just digs deeper in his pockets. There is no truth to that. Losses in business gets passed down to the consumer. We all pay for this increase if it takes place. If the business owner simply cannot pass those losses to us, then he shuts down the business, and those MW workers have no income.

 

[JWBooth]

Suddenly, $15 an hour isn't enough anymore. Nope! Now we need a $33 an hour minimum wage.

The $15 Minimum Wage Is Here. Why We Need $33 an Hour.

Meh, inflation

 

[RDD_1210]

Seriously...the Dumbocrats are going to fast-track us to Venezuela. Complete and total collapse. Extreme poverty. And of course, they will attempt to blame capitalism for it when their idiocy fails.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you didn't actually read the article.

Just made your post based on the headline, right?

 

[RDD_1210]

Suddenly, $15 an hour isn't enough anymore. Nope! Now we need a $33 an hour minimum wage.

The $15 Minimum Wage Is Here. Why We Need $33 an Hour.

I bet the dumb bitch that wrote the article does not make 33 bucks an hour.

100% chance you didn't read the article.

Good for you.

 

[BULLDOG]

When workers have the power to demand and receive higher wages, that is exactly how the free market works. Are you against the free market?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Suddenly, $15 an hour isn't enough anymore. Nope! Now we need a $33 an hour minimum wage.

The $15 Minimum Wage Is Here. Why We Need $33 an Hour.

I bet the dumb bitch that wrote the article does not make 33 bucks an hour.

100% chance you didn't read the article.

Good for you.

100% chance you are wrong and a moron.

but hey, thanks for playing!

 

[Harpy Eagle]

When workers have the power to demand and receive higher wages, that is exactly how the free market works. Are you against the free market?

If they are receiving those higher wages due to artificial limits enacted by elected representatives, it is not the free market.

 

[BULLDOG]

When workers have the power to demand and receive higher wages, that is exactly how the free market works. Are you against the free market?

If they are receiving those higher wages due to artificial limits enacted by elected representatives, it is not the free market.

Sure it is. If the workers elect officials that further their interests, that's exactly the way out election system is supposed to work. Add that to their free market demands, and that makes you a whiny socialist. Why do you hate America and the free market?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

When workers have the power to demand and receive higher wages, that is exactly how the free market works. Are you against the free market?

If they are receiving those higher wages due to artificial limits enacted by elected representatives, it is not the free market.

Sure it is. If the workers elect officials that further their interests, that's exactly the way out election system is supposed to work. Add that to their free market demands, and that makes you a whiny socialist. Why do you hate America and the free market?

The election system and the free market are two separate entities, they are not the same thing you dumb bitch.

In a free market the wages are set by the market, not by law makers. Law makers set artificial minimum wages because they think the free market is not paying people enough.

Is there a contest today to see how can post the stupidest shit the earliest?

 

[Cellblock2429]

Suddenly, $15 an hour isn't enough anymore. Nope! Now we need a $33 an hour minimum wage.

The $15 Minimum Wage Is Here. Why We Need $33 an Hour.

/——-/ Nobody saw that coming.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

When workers have the power to demand and receive higher wages, that is exactly how the free market works. Are you against the free market?

If they are receiving those higher wages due to artificial limits enacted by elected representatives, it is not the free market.

Sure it is. If the workers elect officials that further their interests, that's exactly the way out election system is supposed to work. Add that to their free market demands, and that makes you a whiny socialist. Why do you hate America and the free market?

Wait a minute........you elect representatives to force companies to pay employees more than they are worth, and you call that a free market?????

 

[Cellblock2429]

capitalist have no qualms about increasing their pay so stfu.

/——/ I guess you can’t grasp the difference between earned income and having it mandated.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

When workers have the power to demand and receive higher wages, that is exactly how the free market works. Are you against the free market?

If workers can do it on their own without government overlords, correct.

 

[BULLDOG]

When workers have the power to demand and receive higher wages, that is exactly how the free market works. Are you against the free market?

If they are receiving those higher wages due to artificial limits enacted by elected representatives, it is not the free market.

Sure it is. If the workers elect officials that further their interests, that's exactly the way out election system is supposed to work. Add that to their free market demands, and that makes you a whiny socialist. Why do you hate America and the free market?

The election system and the free market are two separate entities, they are not the same thing you dumb bitch.

In a free market the wages are set by the market, not by law makers. Law makers set artificial minimum wages because they think the free market is not paying people enough.

Is there a contest today to see how can post the stupidest shit the earliest?

The market is anything that effects production and distribution and wages. The workers are certainly allowed to use any means to demand the price of their own labor, just like owners are allowed any means to increase their profit. That's why the free market sucks without reasonable limits.

 

[Cellblock2429]

When workers have the power to demand and receive higher wages, that is exactly how the free market works. Are you against the free market?

If they are receiving those higher wages due to artificial limits enacted by elected representatives, it is not the free market.

Sure it is. If the workers elect officials that further their interests, that's exactly the way out election system is supposed to work. Add that to their free market demands, and that makes you a whiny socialist. Why do you hate America and the free market?

The election system and the free market are two separate entities, they are not the same thing you dumb bitch.

In a free market the wages are set by the market, not by law makers. Law makers set artificial minimum wages because they think the free market is not paying people enough.

Is there a contest today to see how can post the stupidest shit the earliest?

The market is anything that effects production and distribution and wages. The workers are certainly allowed to use any means to demand the price of their own labor, just like owners are allowed any means to increase their profit. That's why the free market sucks without reasonable limits.

/——/ AI and robots will replace the low wage workers. Then libs will demand folks be paid $33 an hour for not working. Anything to destroy America.