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ZERO to do with Trump. I think a 30 day shutdown is actually fine but its time to open up the economy.There is often a big difference between what is said and what is heard among Trump supporters.I watched Fauci live. He said testing is futile for all intents and purposes. We would have to test everyone daily. That is nearly impossible. Herd immunity is the answer. I do Not need news articles. My own ears heard it and Birx basically confirmed it. Listen to yesterday’s press conference yourself.After listening to Fauci it is.Testing is irrelevant. As Fauci said you would have to test someone daily to be certain and that is not feasible and antibody testing is highly flawed.How much longer before the blob gets testing in place?In a "bad year" for the flu, between 50,000 and 100,000 Americans die from the virus. I'm willing to bet that by the end of this year, roughly the same number of people will have died from this virus.
And I'm also willing to bet that there's zero difference in either the total per capita number who become infected and the mortality rate between our country (which ordered a shutdown) and Sweden's, which has refused to order anyone to shut down their business or stay in their homes.
If you accept that the virus had been circulating in our population for months by the time the lock down orders arrived (which is certainly the case) and if you know it's highly contagious, then ordering everyone into their homes in mid-March was closing the barn door when the horses were already long gone.
What does work to control the spread of a novel virus? Herd immunity. Humans have immune systems. They work great, especially in younger people. We can handle viruses.
What we should do is tell older and sicker people to put on a mask. Wear rubber gloves. Avoid crowds at all costs. Avoid hospitals. Stay home whenever you can.
We should have told everyone else: Go about your lives. Yes, we should also add that some of you – probably about 20% – are going to get this novel coronavirus this year. (Normally about 9% of the population gets the flu every year... so your chances of catching COVID-19 this year are about double what you'd normally face with the regular flu.)
And if you get it, it's probably going to suck. But the younger you are and the healthier you are, the more likely it is that you won't have any symptoms at all.
So, let's not cancel school. Let's let the kids go and get exposed to this virus when they are young, when they can handle it, and when they can quickly develop immunity.
That's the best way to build the herd immunity we need – allow everyone who can manage the virus to get exposed. As quickly as possible. After all, the sooner the herd immunity we need develops naturally, the safer we will all be. Deaths are now projected at 60k?
Top coronavirus model lowers US death estimates in updated projection - Washington Examiner
Researchers lowered their estimated U.S. death toll from the coronavirus pandemic in a recent update of a key model.The University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation lowered its predicted death toll by more than 8,000 on Friday, only four days after its previous...www.washingtonexaminer.com
I am in agreement.....after we get testing in place.
Testing is NOT irrelevant according to 99% of our doctors and scientists.
No my friend - NO
Far more Americans are placing their trust in what White House infectious disease expert Anthony Fauci and New York Governor Andrew Cuomo are saying about the health crisis than what Donald Trump is saying, according to a new poll from NBC News/Wall Street Journal.Three out of every five Americans told pollsters they trust what Mr Fauci says about coronavirus, which has claimed the lives of at least 39,000 people in the US as of Sunday. Only 8 percent do not trust the public statements of Mr Fauci, a longtime White House pandemic adviser who has served both Republican and Democratic administrations.
Americans trust Dr Fauci and Andrew Cuomo more than Trump about coronavirus, poll finds
While 36 percent of those surveyed said they trust what they president has been telling them about the health crisis, more than half, 52 percent, said they do notwww.independent.co.uk
It is my personal opinion that you have mischaracterized what the good doctor actually said.
And I shall pass on yesterday's clown show. The lowlights were enough.
They hear what they want to hear. A lot.