We find the defendant Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Not Guilty

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    Obama's decision to try KSM in a Criminal Court is perilous at best and at worst just plain fucking stupid, one of the worst decisions in human history

    Though he claims to be a "Constitutional Law Professor" and was "President" of the Harvard Law Review, his grasp on basic American jurisprudence is tenuous.

    First, despite Obama derisive, divisive, arrogant, bitter and frustrated statement that the American people won't find it "offensive at all when he's convicted and when the death penalty is applied to him" we have a Presumption of Innocence in this country; this isn't Kenya. If a jury were impaneled today and asked to return a verdict prior to submission of any evidence, they MUST return with a Not Guilty Verdict! You should know that BEFORE you get to law school.

    Second, KSM was never read his Miranda Warning! All Incriminating statements ARE INADMISSIBLE! You cannot use his confession against him!!

    Third, KSM never had an attorney present with him at any point in his captivity and was denied his basic Constitutional rights! Wait a second, he's a terrorist and HAS NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!

    Fourth, irrespective of whether waterboarding is torture, his statements were obtained under duress, and again inadmissible and would further taint a juries view of the entire government case against the defendant.

    Fifth, How can you possibly use covert intel against him? He has a right to access NSA and CIA material under Discovery.

    Sixth, what are the charges against him? The terrorists crashed 2 fully loaded US Commercial airliners into 2 fully occupied towers of the WTC intending to toppled the fully loaded towers on to a bustling lower Manhattan at rush hour. Will it be 3,000 counts of murder and 100,000 counts of attempted murder?

    Finally, if the turban don't fit, you must acquit! The Jury has no choice but render a Not Guilty Verdict to a defendant who already pleaded guilty to a military tribunal and asked to be executed.

    Welcome to life under the Reign of the Boy who would be President
     
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    Yup.
     
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    Maybe they know that he'll be found not guilty, and that he will be released as a free man to walk down the front steps of the courthouse, thus allowing thousands of angry people the opportunity to bludgeon him into a pulp.
     
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    Second, KSM was never read his Miranda Warning! All Incriminating statements ARE INADMISSIBLE! You cannot use his confession against him!! So Bush fucked up

    Third, KSM never had an attorney present with him at any point in his captivity and was denied his basic Constitutional rights! Wait a second, he's a terrorist and HAS NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!

    So Bush fucked up


    Fourth, irrespective of whether waterboarding is torture, his statements were obtained under duress, and again inadmissible and would further taint a juries view of the entire government case against the defendant.

    So Bush fucked up


    Fifth, How can you possibly use covert intel against him? He has a right to access NSA and CIA material under Discovery.

    So Bush fucked up


    Sixth, what are the charges against him? The terrorists crashed 2 fully loaded US Commercial airliners into 2 fully occupied towers of the WTC intending to toppled the fully loaded towers on to a bustling lower Manhattan at rush hour. Will it be 3,000 counts of murder and 100,000 counts of attempted murder?

    Sounds fair


    So...in the end Bush fucked up the evidence about KSM and you are holding Obama to blame
     
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    Under Bush, KSM was tried before a Military Tribunal, pleaded guilty and asked to be executed.

    BOoooooooooooooooooooooooooosh!! He stole the precious Florida Election! We hates himmmmmm we hates him forever!
     
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    Sorry, not only is "Bush fucked up" a bad argument, it's a non-argument. Obama is fucking this one up.
     
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    Top 9/11 suspects to plead guilty
    8 December 2008

    Artist's sketch of 9/11 suspects in court. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is centre (8 December 2008)
    Mr Mohammed (centre) said he wanted to dispense with his US military lawyer

    Alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and his four co-defendants have said they want to plead guilty at a pre-trial hearing at Guantanamo Bay.

    But Mr Mohammed said he would postpone entering his plea until an investigation into the mental state of two of his co-defendants was complete."

    BBC NEWS | Americas | Top 9/11 suspects to plead guilty

    General Barnicke: Where is your argument, Libruls?
    John Winger: Blown up, sir!
    Soldiers: Blown up, sir!
     
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    Wrong again, Ithaca-man.

    His court appointed lawyers have the winning ace up their sleeves, and one they play that ace, no American jury will convict!

    In fact, there will be an outpouring of public support- and he may even win the Presidential election, as a write-in no less. Millons of Democrats will cross over to vote the KSM ticket.

    What is that ace in the hole, you ask?

    Well, the rumor is he was picked on at school, and his teacher used red pen to grade his paper!!!

    Another victim!
     
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    You could use Intel, since discovery only covers that information known to the prosecution.
    If a Shakey boy wants more intel he'll have to subpoena it, and I doubt the court will give him any blanket search of US intel.
    However your case that Obama wants the terrorist scum set free, and sees a civilian court as the way to get that while hiding his intent, is actually pretty good. The whole Islamic brotha's must stick together thing actually fits.
     
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    Fuck purple pens.
     

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