We Are All Missing the Point in the Current Political Debate

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    read it and weep folks..

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    by Robert Allen Bonelli
    Our nation will spend more than $40 trillion over the next ten years with at least $15 trillion in deficit spending, while Congress is arguing about how to reduce that deficit by all of 8% – really? With this nonsense debate going on, Mr. Obama has abdicated his presidency and is now campaigning for reelection on a full-time basis. The rest of the world, meanwhile, is simply falling apart.



    The Muslim Brotherhood is coming to power in Egypt, Iran is moving deliberately toward nuclear armament and Europe is proving that socialist democracies will fall at their own hand. In the midst of this turmoil, the media has our people focusing on why the top 1% paying 50% of all federal taxes falls short of “their fair share” and why entitlements and government needs to keep growing. We are missing the point – eliminate the noise and the real debate is simply whether our children live free or for the benefit of the state?

    Let’s forget all the facts and figures about our growing debt and the increasing involvement of government in our lives and focus on the fundamental definition of liberty: liberty is the freedom from arbitrary control; it is freedom to exercise the unalienable rights endowed upon us by our Creator; it is freedom from oppressive power exerted by government; and it is freedom from all forms of tyranny. While people demand that their neighbors who may be better off economically should be ordered – by law – to share their success with them, what they are really promoting is the ascendancy of the state over the people. What they are missing is that they are demanding the suppression of liberty for their neighbors, themselves and their own children.

    The systematic destruction of our economic strength through increased regulation, increased taxation on the job creators, a 50% increase in the national debt in just the last three years and an equal increase in the dependency on foreign governments to fund our debt has turned our nation upside down. We have gone from the world’s last hope to a sideshow and find our great country powerless to help prevent ally nations from economic decline and powerless to stop the rise of tyrannical regimes.


    Our people remain divided on why others need to be ordered to do for them rather than why they should find a way to do for themselves. Mr. Obama and the Democratic Party leadership, with the financial and political support of both public and private unions, have openly declared class warfare and are shamelessly promoting larger government as their definition of what they mean when speaking of “fundamentally changing America.”

    It is interesting to ask the question, “Are there any Democrats who love the basic principle of liberty that our country was founded upon?” The answer demonstrated over the past three years has been an extremely loud “No!” Republicans are not blameless and have also contributed to the loss of liberty in our country. If not for the 85 members of Congress identified as TEA Party Republicans – all of whom have been vilified by the media, the Democrats and many establishment Republicans – the question could just as easily be “Are there any politicians who love liberty?”


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    I agree with the title, the rest not so much.
     
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    Pure Pubcrappe, dupe. Change the channel. Memorize my signature, it's brilliant. ty
     
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    Wall Street moved 14,000 US factories overseas, US manufacturing went from 28% of the economy to 12%. The US went from a surplus to borrowing $0.41 of every dollar spent. The people who own 99% of everything should pay more. The fucking 1% should stop whining about taxes and go back to the Clinton era rates. Other taxes I'd impose are:
    1. a transaction tax on stocks
    2. prohibit derivatives & short-selling w/o actually owning the stock
    3. bring back Glass-Stegall
    4. limit bonuses to corporate execs, then tax bonuses at 75%
     
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    Number 10 of thirteen ways to tax 1% incomes:

    "10: Increase the Social Security Payroll Tax on Wages and Salaries (Earned Incomes)

    "Currently, less than 85 percent of all wage earners pay up to the current top annual limit of $106,800. This imbalance occurred because wage income at the top wage levels above $106,800 has risen faster than the Social Security base increase.

    "This proposal would raise the limit to $250,000 a year and indexes future limits to inflation to recover the remaining 15 percent of earned incomes (wages) not paying the Social Security tax above $106,800."

    Thirteen Ways to Tax the Rich | Truthout

    We could also think about extending FICA to unearned income.
     
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