Wasn't it Dubya's Policy That Got The Troops INTO Iraq?...

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  1. MarcATL
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    And Obama is simply getting the boys out of that Quagmire?...

    Am I Misremembering HIStory?...

    The Surge happened to be Successful and President Obama has done everything within his power to repair (43)'s Policies in Iraq, so...

    Shrub's not going to try to take Credit for this, is he?...



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    Why yes, yes it was his plan with bi partisan support if I recall, curses to anyone who voted for it without genuinely renouncing it.
     
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    The surge worked? What did it accomplish? I mean, besides getting more of our troops killed? What did we win?
     
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    Let the RightWingers and/or RepubliCON$ answer that one.
     
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    Are Conservatives upset because the combat troops are out of Iraq and the remaining troops are only advisers and trainers? Would they be happier if the war still dragged on?

    Are the Conservatives upset because the troop pull out happened under the Obama administration not the Bush administration? Didn't the Bush policies have enough time to run their course? Were the Bush policies about Iraq well conceived and implemented? Should it have taken five years under Bush administration oversight to achieve whatever we think might have been achieved by invading Iraq?

    Are the Conservatives upset because they think there's 'credit' to be dolled out after the Iraq war? Didn't Bush land on an aircraft carrier and proclaim "In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed"?

    Are the Conservatives upset because Iraq isn't just like a fifty first state? That the expectation of a Jeffersonian democracy blooming in the desert just never really happened?

    Or, are the Conservatives upset because it's the nature of the beast? When you're out of power and out of ideas you just get cranky.
     
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    The civil war in Iraq had reached a turning point and was resolving itself long before the surge even happened. Even General Petraeus has acknowledged that the surge may not have been necessary.

    Ironically, just as our surge was happening, the British were pulling OUT. And strangely enough, the sectors where the British un-surged calmed down along with all the places where there was a surge. Basra for example.

    The surge was a well-timed publicity stunt.
     
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    No,a ctually it was not Bush's policy. It was the UN's policy, one that they subsequently refused to enforce. The U.S. merely chose to enforce existing U.N. policy.
    http://www.casi.org.uk/info/undocs/scres/2003/20030307draft.pdf
    Here is 1441, which set that policy:
    http://www.casi.org.uk/info/undocs/scres/2002/res1441e.pdf

    Further it was Bush's policy to withdraw troops at this time:
    U.S.?Iraq Status of Forces Agreement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    So your premise that Bush got us into Iraq is flawed.
    Your premise that Obama is getting us out of Iraq is flawed.

    Basically your whole world view is flawed and contributes to your growing reputation as a liberal hack and ignoramus of continental proportions.
     
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    Why do people insist on forgetting the fact that the time line being followed here was negotiated under W? Or that Obama actually had the chance to actually pull everyone out of Iraq unilaterally, and decided to keep the accords negotiated by W's administration rather than do any work himself, then actually keep more people in Iraq than W promised. Yet somehow, the people who point out the facts, while W remains silent, are rewriting history.

    I wonder why that is.
     
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    Amazing how quick some are trying to rewrite history.

    The Surge worked

    Bush arranged the withdrawal time table

    Obama is taking credit.

    Not really shocked. But come on people. You just look stupid acting all partisan
     
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    the surge didn't work
     

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