Was Jesus born with Original Sin?

[GreatestIam]

Was Jesus born with Original Sin?

If so, then he could not be the perfect sacrifice.

If not, then he had no human side and was pure god, and god cannot die which, makes the sacrifice a lie.

Could these facts be why the Jews have no Original Sin concept in their religion?

Is that also why Jews rejected Jesus as their messiah, or did they just recognize the immorality of anyone using a scapegoat and the abdication of one’s responsibility for their actions, which is against all moral legal systems?

Why have Christians embraced such an immoral and illegal concept?

Regards
DL

 

[Vastator]

Was Jesus born with Original Sin?

If so, then he could not be the perfect sacrifice.

If not, then he had no human side and was pure god, and god cannot die which, makes the sacrifice a lie.

Could these facts be why the Jews have no Original Sin concept in their religion?

Is that also why Jews rejected Jesus as their messiah, or did they just recognize the immorality of anyone using a scapegoat and the abdication of one’s responsibility for their actions, which is against all moral legal systems?

Why have Christians embraced such an immoral and illegal concept?

Regards
DL

Who would buy a 3 day layover, as an apt substitute for everyone else’s eternity? If he came back... He didn’t truly die. Lots of people “died”, then came back. That’s not unique to the “Jesus” story...
The fact of the matter is; there is no legitimate proof of the existence of the “Jesus” character offered in the “Testament”.

 

[JGalt]

Jesus wasn't conceived from fornication, he was born of immaculate conception. Therefore no, Jesus was not born with original sin. That's why the Devil tried so hard to tempt Him in the Judaean Desert, as he did in Matthew 4:1-11

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[DOTR]

Yep. Christ was born without sin. Next question.

 

[ding]

Was Jesus born with Original Sin?

If so, then he could not be the perfect sacrifice.

If not, then he had no human side and was pure god, and god cannot die which, makes the sacrifice a lie.

Could these facts be why the Jews have no Original Sin concept in their religion?

Is that also why Jews rejected Jesus as their messiah, or did they just recognize the immorality of anyone using a scapegoat and the abdication of one’s responsibility for their actions, which is against all moral legal systems?

Why have Christians embraced such an immoral and illegal concept?

Regards
DL

You’re a Gnostic Christian, right?

Are you saying that Gnostic Christians don’t believe that Jesus is the good God?

 

[Manonthestreet]

Man wasn't created in sin either.....

 

[harmonica]

Jesus wasn't conceived from fornication, he was born of immaculate conception. Therefore no, Jesus was not born with original sin. That's why the Devil tried so hard to tempt Him in the Judaean Desert, as he did in Matthew 4:1-11

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impossible

 

[harmonica]

no such thing as sin ..it's a fake thing made up by humans

 

[GreatestIam]

Was Jesus born with Original Sin?

If so, then he could not be the perfect sacrifice.

If not, then he had no human side and was pure god, and god cannot die which, makes the sacrifice a lie.

Could these facts be why the Jews have no Original Sin concept in their religion?

Is that also why Jews rejected Jesus as their messiah, or did they just recognize the immorality of anyone using a scapegoat and the abdication of one’s responsibility for their actions, which is against all moral legal systems?

Why have Christians embraced such an immoral and illegal concept?

Regards
DL

Who would buy a 3 day layover, as an apt substitute for everyone else’s eternity? If he came back... He didn’t truly die. Lots of people “died”, then came back. That’s not unique to the “Jesus” story...
The fact of the matter is; there is no legitimate proof of the existence of the “Jesus” character offered in the “Testament”.

Jesus began as a myth and only when Christianity went stupid and insane did the imaginary became real to them.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

Jesus wasn't conceived from fornication, he was born of immaculate conception. Therefore no, Jesus was not born with original sin. That's why the Devil tried so hard to tempt Him in the Judaean Desert, as he did in Matthew 4:1-11

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All that is required to gain Original Sin is to be born human and Jesus was human.

If you have scriptures that say different, please quote them.

As to the temptation of Jesus, Satan offered him dominion that Satan did not have because dominion was given to man.

You have nothing you can quote to refute that, so there was no temptation of Christ.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

Yep. Christ was born without sin. Next question.

Are you denying the human side of Jesus?

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

Was Jesus born with Original Sin?

If so, then he could not be the perfect sacrifice.

If not, then he had no human side and was pure god, and god cannot die which, makes the sacrifice a lie.

Could these facts be why the Jews have no Original Sin concept in their religion?

Is that also why Jews rejected Jesus as their messiah, or did they just recognize the immorality of anyone using a scapegoat and the abdication of one’s responsibility for their actions, which is against all moral legal systems?

Why have Christians embraced such an immoral and illegal concept?

Regards
DL

You’re a Gnostic Christian, right?

Are you saying that Gnostic Christians don’t believe that Jesus is the good God?

Jesus preached an esoteric way.

We Gnostic Christians follow that way.
We seek god as Jesus instructed while Christians are idol worshiping a genocidal prick of a god.

Which system do you see as more moral and intelligent?

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

no such thing as sin ..it's a fake thing made up by humans

The English dictionary has accepted it but if you wish to ignore the many words we have made up, your reading of almost anything will be wasted.

If you cannot think analogically, you will never be wise.

Regards
DL

 

[ding]

Was Jesus born with Original Sin?

If so, then he could not be the perfect sacrifice.

If not, then he had no human side and was pure god, and god cannot die which, makes the sacrifice a lie.

Could these facts be why the Jews have no Original Sin concept in their religion?

Is that also why Jews rejected Jesus as their messiah, or did they just recognize the immorality of anyone using a scapegoat and the abdication of one’s responsibility for their actions, which is against all moral legal systems?

Why have Christians embraced such an immoral and illegal concept?

Regards
DL

You’re a Gnostic Christian, right?

Are you saying that Gnostic Christians don’t believe that Jesus is the good God?

Jesus preached an esoteric way.

We Gnostic Christians follow that way.
We seek god as Jesus instructed while Christians are idol worshiping a genocidal prick of a god.

Which system do you see as more moral and intelligent?

Regards
DL

Gnostic Christians believe in two Gods, dipshit.

 

[DOTR]

Yep. Christ was born without sin. Next question.

Are you denying the human side of Jesus?

Regards
DL

So I give you the opportunity for questions you waste it on that? Your obsession with Christianity hasn’t led you to try and learn about it at all?


Hypostatic Union

 

[harmonica]

no such thing as sin ..it's a fake thing made up by humans

The English dictionary has accepted it but if you wish to ignore the many words we have made up, your reading of almost anything will be wasted.

If you cannot think analogically, you will never be wise.

Regards
DL

hahhahahah
all of these --and more-- in the dictionary--they are NOT REAL-- hahhahaha
there is no god--no sin....it's made up by reliegious people
religion is man made = fake
Definition of UFO
: an unidentified flying objectespecially : FLYING SAUCER
u·ni·corn
/ˈyo͞onəˌkôrn/
noun

1. 1.
   a mythical animal typically represented as a horse with a single straight horn projecting from its forehead.

Definition of fairy
1: a mythical being of folklore and romance usually having diminutive human form and magic powers

 

[Likkmee]

no such thing as sin ..it's a fake thing made up by humans

The English dictionary has accepted it but if you wish to ignore the many words we have made up, your reading of almost anything will be wasted.

If you cannot think analogically, you will never be wise.

Regards
DL

hahhahahah
all of these --and more-- in the dictionary--they are NOT REAL-- hahhahaha
there is no god--no sin....it's made up by reliegious people
religion is man made = fake
Definition of UFO
: an unidentified flying objectespecially : FLYING SAUCER
u·ni·corn
/ˈyo͞onəˌkôrn/
noun

1. 1.
   a mythical animal typically represented as a horse with a single straight horn projecting from its forehead.

Definition of fairy
1: a mythical being of folklore and romance usually having diminutive human form and magic powers

 

[ding]

Yep. Christ was born without sin. Next question.

And so was his mother, Mary, who was also a Jew.

Here’s the funny thing, Gnostic Christians believe Jesus is the good God and they believe the G-d of Abraham is the evil God.

And it gets funnier too. They believe the G-d of Abraham is the God of the material world and that the material world is evil, and that Jesus is the God of the spiritual world and the spiritual world is good. Now here’s the funny part, the Gnostics were and are socialists which by definition are materialists. In fact, the early Gnostics were flaming communists and their leaders owned everything.

 

[ding]

Yep. Christ was born without sin. Next question.

Are you denying the human side of Jesus?

Regards
DL

So I give you the opportunity for questions you waste it on that? Your obsession with Christianity hasn’t led you to try and learn about it at all?


Hypostatic Union

He or she is a subversive.

Pure evil.

 

[GreatestIam]

Yep. Christ was born without sin. Next question.

Are you denying the human side of Jesus?

Regards
DL

So I give you the opportunity for questions you waste it on that? Your obsession with Christianity hasn’t led you to try and learn about it at all?


Hypostatic Union

I have learned quite a bit.

Both Christianity and Islam, slave holding ideologies, have basically developed into intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions. Both religions have grown themselves by the sword instead of good deeds and continue with their immoral ways in spite of secular law showing them the moral ways.

Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds. That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I. Jesus would call Christianity and Islam abominations.

Gnostic Christians did in the past, and I am proudly continuing that tradition and honest irrefutable evaluation based on morality.

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Humanity centered religions, good? Yes. Esoteric ecumenist Gnostic Christianity being the best of these.

Supernaturally based religions, evil? Yes. Islam and Christianity being the worst of these.

Regards
DL