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I reckon it was a good thing because:Was it a good or bad thing that Adam and Eve fell after partaking of the forbidden fruit?
Was it the will of God that Adam and Eve live forever in the Garden of Eden or not?
Yep..... Women. He listened to his woman and lost everything. much like today.
Did God know that Adam and Eve would sin exactly how it came to play out in the Garden of Eden before He began the first day of creation?bad in the fact that humans would have lived forever, in a garden. Thank God he had a plan B in case we screwed it up and the first man, our ancestor, did. BUT FIRST , it was Eve that was tempted, she ate, and then she gave it to adam. Women. He listened to his woman and lost everything. much like today.
If he is the almighty god they always say he is, then yes. He made Adam and Eve, according to the story, so why did he make them susceptible to temptation? Furthermore, why did he tempt these people who are susceptible to temptation if he didnt want them to be tempted? Why did he punish them when they did exactly what they were created to do? Why did he make a snake to tempt them? Why entice them with fruit that you know they are going to be enticed with because, he made them as people who would be enticed?Did God know that Adam and Eve would sin exactly how it came to play out in the Garden of Eden before He began the first day of creation?
It's not for me to say.Was it the will of God that Adam and Eve live forever in the Garden of Eden or not?
/---/ I've read that the forbidden fruit was either sex or oral sex. Others say it wasn't an apple, which was unknown in that part of the world when the Old Testament was written. Apple was a generic term used for any fruit with seeds on the inside, covered by the meat of the fruit, and a skin.Was it the will of God that Adam and Eve live forever in the Garden of Eden or not?
/---/ On the downside, girls started wearing clothes.I reckon it was a good thing because:
1). There are no more talking snakes in the trees.
2). We can now eat apples to our heart's content and Johnny Appleseed became a national hero.
Imagine life without temptation, and half of all choices taken away. What effect would that have on strength of mind and spirit...on how lives and personalities are shaped. Wouldn't that be the Creator saying, "I don't trust them to learn to do right..doing right must be forced upon them." Does mankind--as a whole--have so little faith in one another to overcome temptation that no one should be allowed to try?If he is the almighty god they always say he is, then yes. He made Adam and Eve, according to the story, so why did he make them susceptible to temptation? Furthermore, why did he tempt these people who are susceptible to temptation if he didnt want them to be tempted? Why did he punish them when they did exactly what they were created to do? Why did he make a snake to tempt them? Why entice them with fruit that you know they are going to be enticed with because, he made them as people who would be enticed?
Imagine allowing your two year old toddler access to a busy street. You instruct him not to play in traffic but then allow him to make the decision -- free will. He plays in traffic and gets squashed by an semi. Well, you told him the consequences; he should had known better.Imagine life without temptation, and half of all choices taken away. What effect would that have on strength of mind and spirit...on how lives and personalities are shaped. Wouldn't that be the Creator saying, "I don't trust them to learn to do right..doing right must be forced upon them." Does mankind--as a whole--have so little faith in one another to overcome temptation that no one should be allowed to try?
Punishment? Perhaps consider 'consequences' as a more accurate description. Touch a hot stove, the consequence is a burned finger. Jump off a high place, the consequence is injury or death.
The 'fruit' was knowledge of good and evil. Hebrew lore talks about this, that it was intended for mankind to have the knowledge of good and evil. The problem was it was grasped at--eaten--soon. This is why some of the Orthodox community will not eat the fruit of a tree until the second year it produces, a discipline to practice patience and waiting until the proper time to act.
Temptation is not an inherently evil thing. Temptation leads to marriage, for example.Imagine life without temptation, and half of all choices taken away. What effect would that have on strength of mind and spirit...on how lives and personalities are shaped. Wouldn't that be the Creator saying, "I don't trust them to learn to do right..doing right must be forced upon them." Does mankind--as a whole--have so little faith in one another to overcome temptation that no one should be allowed to try?
Punishment? Perhaps consider 'consequences' as a more accurate description. Touch a hot stove, the consequence is a burned finger. Jump off a high place, the consequence is injury or death.
The 'fruit' was knowledge of good and evil. Hebrew lore talks about this, that it was intended for mankind to have the knowledge of good and evil. The problem was it was grasped at--eaten--soon. This is why some of the Orthodox community will not eat the fruit of a tree until the second year it produces, a discipline to practice patience and waiting until the proper time to act.
well he knows everything...probably why he had the plan b. GUess he figured out we are NOT to be trusted.Did God know that Adam and Eve would sin exactly how it came to play out in the Garden of Eden before He began the first day of creation?
I reckon it was a good thing because:
1). There are no more talking snakes in the trees.
2). We can now eat apples to our heart's content and Johnny Appleseed became a national hero.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that./---/ On the downside, girls started wearing clothes.
Knowing everything before "The Beginning", there was not a Plan A and Plan B. The fall of Man is Plan A, planned even before the creation.well he knows everything...probably why he had the plan b. GUess he figured out we are NOT to be trusted.