Tommy Tainant
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All of the labour candidates stood as remainers but i take your point. But even without labour the remain parties took more votes than brexit parties.Thank fuck for that.
Wales votes remain
Hardly.
Plaid Cymru, Lib Dems, and Greens form the Remain camp. They got just 40% of the votes.
You didn't, perchance, count Labour among their ranks? Because they aren't Remainers. They aren't Leavers, either. They are the Play-Hide-and-Seek-With-Their-Position party, angling for a general election in which they, as things stand, would likely be crushed. Rightly so, I would add.
There are two things that I expect to emerge from this election. First, Tories, desperate as they are, will throw the top job to BoJo, the only one who might be capable of stealing Farage's luster. Second, the time for playing games is over, and a general election any time soon is not going to happen. Labour and Tories are going to fall over themselves to scrape together the votes for any kind of Brexit deal they can get through the Commons.
There are also two things standing in the way of that happening. 1) BoJo, arrogantly overplaying his hand. 2) Dysfunctionality and distrust to such an extent they can't bring the relevant personnel together at the table, and thus still get nothing done.
Oh, and as a disclaimer, I've been wrong before.
I will give you a different scenario. Johnson or gove will have the same pieces on the board as may did. They cant push a deal through and the EU wont budge. So now it is time for the remainers to form a pact to block no deal and work for a second referendum. I believe that the numbers are there. The Peterborough by election would be a good start.