Voter Suppression and the Principles of Democracy

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    Voter Suppression and the Principles of Democracy: What could be more at odds with the principles of democracy than voter suppression, voter fraud? I'd say no, depending on the scale.

    Voter fraud, if and when it can be found, and I do believe it exists, would have to reach huge proportions to destroy the process we in the USA use in our system of democratic elections. I am not denying there isn't any fraud during any particular election.

    While I view fraud as wrong. However, I accept that in an imperfect system like ours, or any other system I know of, a certain amount of fraud is inevitable, if not tolerable, to a sense of justice and fairness. Think of starting a small business, which would be open to the public. To insist on preventing all theft would be impractical. Either all customers would have to be terribly inconvenienced, and/or the prevention techniques of the perfect system would be cost prohibitive.

    Likewise, I believe Voter Suppression if and where it can be found, and I do believe it also exists along with voter fraud, would have to reach huge proportions to destroy the process we in the USA use in our system of democratic elections. Voter suppression has a well documented history in the USA. The techniques used to suppress the vote spans the spectrum from distasteful to horrific. But as things move slowly in a society like ours, a democratic society alongside a republican form of government, we correct things, we right wrongs, we attempt to live up to what many of us view as our better natures.

    Now we come to the meat of the matter: Voter I.D. laws. Do I support the concept? You Betcha.

    But...Some things just aren't right.

    It's how we get there that counts. Sacrificing the principles of democracy to partisan gains benefits no one on the long run. Corrupting the process to the point that the system pronounces it's own principles as anathema.

    You betcha! [ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RwWXs2NvII[/ame]
     
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    Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner....
     
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    If and When?

    My god you are an idiot.....

    Wa st. Where a thousand votes more then voters is the norm.

    I suggest you look up the sec of states remarks on this subject...

    Then shut the fuck up.
     
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    percentages?

    please try and make a coherent point or stfu
     
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    Oh now you want percentages. If they are low you dont mind fucking people over.

    So what has changed............Nothing.
     
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    It's not surprising that the Alinsky left wing radicals would quote the "principals of democracy" while advocating voter fraud and it's no surprise that the left wing racists would claim that Black people are too dumb to obtain a photo I.D.
     
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    Dead Men Shouldn't Vote

    Even if that 10% of all voters and responsible for Democrats wiinning
     
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    Well, there are simple; common sense ways to eleviate voter fraud; instead of the state issuing a voter registration card, simply issue one with a picture ID. If the community college down the street can master the technology....the federal government should be able to do so.

    As for whether or not it is serious, yes it is.

    No President will ever be elected on strictly fraud.

    One has to remember though that there are a great many down-ticket races and off year elections that have very small turnout.

    In 2004, the supervisor of elections in Palm Beach County lost by a few percentage points which translated into a couple of hundred votes. This isn't a big deal in and of itself. However, the noteworthing thing about her losing was that this was the same person who approved the butterfly ballot. The butterfly ballot that was used in the 2000 election. The butterfly ballot which caused Pat Buchanan to get a disproportionate number of votes that likely would have went to Al Gore. The butterfly ballot that basically swung the State for George Bush and thus the election since Palm Beach County was in Florida.

    As a result, we had a war in Iraq that Gore would have unlikely never considered staging. Thousands of American soldiers died, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis were killed as a result.

    Now, was this elections supervisor elected by fraudulent ballots? Nobody knows. Is it likely that some of the ballots for her (her name is Theresa LePore by the way) and against her were fraudulent? Yes. Why leave it to a greater degree of uncertainty than would otherwise be experienced?
     
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