Violence against British police increasing, so they now all get tasers.....

[Vagabond63]

Blah, blah, bull****! 1,044 Police officers in the Northamptonshire Constabulary are to be trained in the use of Tasers and issued accordingly. 1,044 officers out of 126,326 police officers in the UK. Hardly "all" of them. The reality is that any police officer can apply to be trained and issued with a Taser if he or she qualifies; this has been the case since 2004. They are normally issued to firearms units as a non-lethal alternative to their Glock 17s and HK MP5s.

This thread is another of our resident NRA schill's pathetic attempts to fearmonger.

And the fact that they now need them....as opposed to the past......is the point.....the criminal culture is changing in Britain...

The point is that Tasers weren't around in "the past", Neither were computers or pepper sprays, or body cams, or stab vests, etc. Police everywhere in the world adapt to advances and changes in technology and adopt that which they find useful to do their jobs with maximum safety for all concerned. Apart from RWNJs over here, no one, especially the Police service itself, is advocating that police officers should be armed with firearms as a matter of course.

As for "criminal culture". That evolves as a result of changes in society, but police have always risked being attacked while doing their job of enforcing the law, it's called an occupational hazard.

Tasers have been around for 25 years. What rock have you been hiding under?

The taser was invented in the 1960s, true. I just said, "the past" but never specified any given year or decade, do pay attention and try to keep up, there's a good chap.

Police in the UK have had the option to carry a gun for many years. When they do they are issued a Smith & Wesson Model 36. Most don't because they prefer to not be armed. That is however changing with the recent influx of violent third world people entering the UK. You ignore the fact that for the majority of modern European history, they have been much less violent than the rest of the world. Two world wars, and the depopulation from those wars probably have something to do with that, but there have been no studies done that I know of for my assertion. But the low violence rate of Europeans in general is well known.

Now be a good chap and pay attention.

So are you saying that PC Plod, can get up in the morning, walk into his station and ask the Sergeant for a gun because he has a bad feeling about his shift?

 

[Vagabond63]

Oh, while I think about it, the Smith & Wesson model 36 is no longer in use with the police in the UK

 

[Vagabond63]

Blah, blah, bull****! 1,044 Police officers in the Northamptonshire Constabulary are to be trained in the use of Tasers and issued accordingly. 1,044 officers out of 126,326 police officers in the UK. Hardly "all" of them. The reality is that any police officer can apply to be trained and issued with a Taser if he or she qualifies; this has been the case since 2004. They are normally issued to firearms units as a non-lethal alternative to their Glock 17s and HK MP5s.

This thread is another of our resident NRA schill's pathetic attempts to fearmonger.

And the fact that they now need them....as opposed to the past......is the point.....the criminal culture is changing in Britain...

The point is that Tasers weren't around in "the past", Neither were computers or pepper sprays, or body cams, or stab vests, etc. Police everywhere in the world adapt to advances and changes in technology and adopt that which they find useful to do their jobs with maximum safety for all concerned. Apart from RWNJs over here, no one, especially the Police service itself, is advocating that police officers should be armed with firearms as a matter of course.

As for "criminal culture". That evolves as a result of changes in society, but police have always risked being attacked while doing their job of enforcing the law, it's called an occupational hazard.

Tasers have been around for 25 years. What rock have you been hiding under?

The taser was invented in the 1960s, true. I just said, "the past" but never specified any given year or decade, do pay attention and try to keep up, there's a good chap.

Police in the UK have had the option to carry a gun for many years. When they do they are issued a Smith & Wesson Model 36. Most don't because they prefer to not be armed. That is however changing with the recent influx of violent third world people entering the UK. You ignore the fact that for the majority of modern European history, they have been much less violent than the rest of the world. Two world wars, and the depopulation from those wars probably have something to do with that, but there have been no studies done that I know of for my assertion. But the low violence rate of Europeans in general is well known.

Now be a good chap and pay attention.

Yes, Europeans are more civilised in general, that's true. Unlike the USA, which has somehow managed to go from barbarism to decadence, without ever experiencing civilisation, as the saying goes.

 

[2aguy]

And the fact that they now need them....as opposed to the past......is the point.....the criminal culture is changing in Britain...

The point is that Tasers weren't around in "the past", Neither were computers or pepper sprays, or body cams, or stab vests, etc. Police everywhere in the world adapt to advances and changes in technology and adopt that which they find useful to do their jobs with maximum safety for all concerned. Apart from RWNJs over here, no one, especially the Police service itself, is advocating that police officers should be armed with firearms as a matter of course.

As for "criminal culture". That evolves as a result of changes in society, but police have always risked being attacked while doing their job of enforcing the law, it's called an occupational hazard.

Tasers have been around for 25 years. What rock have you been hiding under?

The taser was invented in the 1960s, true. I just said, "the past" but never specified any given year or decade, do pay attention and try to keep up, there's a good chap.

Police in the UK have had the option to carry a gun for many years. When they do they are issued a Smith & Wesson Model 36. Most don't because they prefer to not be armed. That is however changing with the recent influx of violent third world people entering the UK. You ignore the fact that for the majority of modern European history, they have been much less violent than the rest of the world. Two world wars, and the depopulation from those wars probably have something to do with that, but there have been no studies done that I know of for my assertion. But the low violence rate of Europeans in general is well known.

Now be a good chap and pay attention.

Yes, Europeans are more civilised in general, that's true. Unlike the USA, which has somehow managed to go from barbarism to decadence, without ever experiencing civilisation, as the saying goes.

You mean except for that murdering 12 million innocent men, women and children thing ..... except for that, where the governments of Europe handed over their citizens to the German national Socialists to be murdered.....you mean except for that.....and the African Slave Trade....Colonialism....Imperialism......World War 1, World War 2........

You mean except for that little stuff...right? The 30 years war.......the Napolieanic Wars......

Are you really this dumb?

 

[Vagabond63]

The point is that Tasers weren't around in "the past", Neither were computers or pepper sprays, or body cams, or stab vests, etc. Police everywhere in the world adapt to advances and changes in technology and adopt that which they find useful to do their jobs with maximum safety for all concerned. Apart from RWNJs over here, no one, especially the Police service itself, is advocating that police officers should be armed with firearms as a matter of course.

As for "criminal culture". That evolves as a result of changes in society, but police have always risked being attacked while doing their job of enforcing the law, it's called an occupational hazard.

Tasers have been around for 25 years. What rock have you been hiding under?

The taser was invented in the 1960s, true. I just said, "the past" but never specified any given year or decade, do pay attention and try to keep up, there's a good chap.

Police in the UK have had the option to carry a gun for many years. When they do they are issued a Smith & Wesson Model 36. Most don't because they prefer to not be armed. That is however changing with the recent influx of violent third world people entering the UK. You ignore the fact that for the majority of modern European history, they have been much less violent than the rest of the world. Two world wars, and the depopulation from those wars probably have something to do with that, but there have been no studies done that I know of for my assertion. But the low violence rate of Europeans in general is well known.

Now be a good chap and pay attention.

Yes, Europeans are more civilised in general, that's true. Unlike the USA, which has somehow managed to go from barbarism to decadence, without ever experiencing civilisation, as the saying goes.

You mean except for that murdering 12 million innocent men, women and children thing ..... except for that, where the governments of Europe handed over their citizens to the German national Socialists to be murdered.....you mean except for that.....and the African Slave Trade....Colonialism....Imperialism......World War 1, World War 2........

You mean except for that little stuff...right? The 30 years war.......the Napolieanic Wars......

Are you really this dumb?

I thought you were both referring to the post war period, talking about "fatherless" children, etc, etc. Of course being around for a few thousand years, there are going to be problems along the way, that's part of the human condition all over the world throughout recorded history. If the USA survives that long, I am sure someone will make a list of all the atrocities America committed in that time scale.

 

[2aguy]

Tasers have been around for 25 years. What rock have you been hiding under?

The taser was invented in the 1960s, true. I just said, "the past" but never specified any given year or decade, do pay attention and try to keep up, there's a good chap.

Police in the UK have had the option to carry a gun for many years. When they do they are issued a Smith & Wesson Model 36. Most don't because they prefer to not be armed. That is however changing with the recent influx of violent third world people entering the UK. You ignore the fact that for the majority of modern European history, they have been much less violent than the rest of the world. Two world wars, and the depopulation from those wars probably have something to do with that, but there have been no studies done that I know of for my assertion. But the low violence rate of Europeans in general is well known.

Now be a good chap and pay attention.

Yes, Europeans are more civilised in general, that's true. Unlike the USA, which has somehow managed to go from barbarism to decadence, without ever experiencing civilisation, as the saying goes.

You mean except for that murdering 12 million innocent men, women and children thing ..... except for that, where the governments of Europe handed over their citizens to the German national Socialists to be murdered.....you mean except for that.....and the African Slave Trade....Colonialism....Imperialism......World War 1, World War 2........

You mean except for that little stuff...right? The 30 years war.......the Napolieanic Wars......

Are you really this dumb?

I thought you were both referring to the post war period, talking about "fatherless" children, etc, etc. Of course being around for a few thousand years, there are going to be problems along the way, that's part of the human condition all over the world throughout recorded history. If the USA survives that long, I am sure someone will make a list of all the atrocities America committed in that time scale.

They make that list every day......

And Fatherless homes are going to drive your crime rate through the roof, and Britain's left wing policies are going to allow that problem to grow....

 

[Tommy Tainant]

And the fact that they now need them....as opposed to the past......is the point.....the criminal culture is changing in Britain...

The point is that Tasers weren't around in "the past", Neither were computers or pepper sprays, or body cams, or stab vests, etc. Police everywhere in the world adapt to advances and changes in technology and adopt that which they find useful to do their jobs with maximum safety for all concerned. Apart from RWNJs over here, no one, especially the Police service itself, is advocating that police officers should be armed with firearms as a matter of course.

As for "criminal culture". That evolves as a result of changes in society, but police have always risked being attacked while doing their job of enforcing the law, it's called an occupational hazard.

Tasers have been around for 25 years. What rock have you been hiding under?

The taser was invented in the 1960s, true. I just said, "the past" but never specified any given year or decade, do pay attention and try to keep up, there's a good chap.

Police in the UK have had the option to carry a gun for many years. When they do they are issued a Smith & Wesson Model 36. Most don't because they prefer to not be armed. That is however changing with the recent influx of violent third world people entering the UK. You ignore the fact that for the majority of modern European history, they have been much less violent than the rest of the world. Two world wars, and the depopulation from those wars probably have something to do with that, but there have been no studies done that I know of for my assertion. But the low violence rate of Europeans in general is well known.

Now be a good chap and pay attention.

And that has been my point. Violence levels have been low in Europe due to cultural factors, not gun control. As their societies are wrecked the increase in Fatherless homes, and the importation of violent 3rd world immigrants who do not share the values of British citizens...their violence rates are going to go up....and are currently going up. Throw in the need to cut police forces to pay for the other hand out government programs and they are on the verge of a crime wave.

You are insane. The UK and pretty much all of Western Europe is many times safer than the gun crazy US. Yet you continue to spout this lame nra bullet point. Give it up kid..

 

[2aguy]

The point is that Tasers weren't around in "the past", Neither were computers or pepper sprays, or body cams, or stab vests, etc. Police everywhere in the world adapt to advances and changes in technology and adopt that which they find useful to do their jobs with maximum safety for all concerned. Apart from RWNJs over here, no one, especially the Police service itself, is advocating that police officers should be armed with firearms as a matter of course.

As for "criminal culture". That evolves as a result of changes in society, but police have always risked being attacked while doing their job of enforcing the law, it's called an occupational hazard.

Tasers have been around for 25 years. What rock have you been hiding under?

The taser was invented in the 1960s, true. I just said, "the past" but never specified any given year or decade, do pay attention and try to keep up, there's a good chap.

Police in the UK have had the option to carry a gun for many years. When they do they are issued a Smith & Wesson Model 36. Most don't because they prefer to not be armed. That is however changing with the recent influx of violent third world people entering the UK. You ignore the fact that for the majority of modern European history, they have been much less violent than the rest of the world. Two world wars, and the depopulation from those wars probably have something to do with that, but there have been no studies done that I know of for my assertion. But the low violence rate of Europeans in general is well known.

Now be a good chap and pay attention.

And that has been my point. Violence levels have been low in Europe due to cultural factors, not gun control. As their societies are wrecked the increase in Fatherless homes, and the importation of violent 3rd world immigrants who do not share the values of British citizens...their violence rates are going to go up....and are currently going up. Throw in the need to cut police forces to pay for the other hand out government programs and they are on the verge of a crime wave.

You are insane. The UK and pretty much all of Western Europe is many times safer than the gun crazy US. Yet you continue to spout this lame nra bullet point. Give it up kid..

You have been shown, over and over that the stats say the opposite....Britain is more violent than the U.S.....and becoming more violent....keep telling yourself that it isn't.....

Children as young as four among hundreds caught with blades at school

In Manchester, an 11-year-old, who had replaced a highlighter nib with a blade, told another pupil: "Listen to me or else I'll stab you."

Former teacher David Simmons, who set up the Changing Lives charity, said he was confronted by a six-year-old brandishing a knife while working in a north London school.

"He was threatening other staff members and saying that he was going to stab them so I've gone over trying to calm this child down," he said. "He's then said he's going to stab me and kill me. At that age you just wouldn't have thought that a six-year-old should be doing that. Why were they doing that?"

 

[irosie91]

The point is that Tasers weren't around in "the past", Neither were computers or pepper sprays, or body cams, or stab vests, etc. Police everywhere in the world adapt to advances and changes in technology and adopt that which they find useful to do their jobs with maximum safety for all concerned. Apart from RWNJs over here, no one, especially the Police service itself, is advocating that police officers should be armed with firearms as a matter of course.

As for "criminal culture". That evolves as a result of changes in society, but police have always risked being attacked while doing their job of enforcing the law, it's called an occupational hazard.

Tasers have been around for 25 years. What rock have you been hiding under?

The taser was invented in the 1960s, true. I just said, "the past" but never specified any given year or decade, do pay attention and try to keep up, there's a good chap.

Police in the UK have had the option to carry a gun for many years. When they do they are issued a Smith & Wesson Model 36. Most don't because they prefer to not be armed. That is however changing with the recent influx of violent third world people entering the UK. You ignore the fact that for the majority of modern European history, they have been much less violent than the rest of the world. Two world wars, and the depopulation from those wars probably have something to do with that, but there have been no studies done that I know of for my assertion. But the low violence rate of Europeans in general is well known.

Now be a good chap and pay attention.

And that has been my point. Violence levels have been low in Europe due to cultural factors, not gun control. As their societies are wrecked the increase in Fatherless homes, and the importation of violent 3rd world immigrants who do not share the values of British citizens...their violence rates are going to go up....and are currently going up. Throw in the need to cut police forces to pay for the other hand out government programs and they are on the verge of a crime wave.

You are insane. The UK and pretty much all of Western Europe is many times safer than the gun crazy US. Yet you continue to spout this lame nra bullet point. Give it up kid..

oh? crime is not a problem in the UK? nowhere in the country?

 

[irosie91]

Tasers have been around for 25 years. What rock have you been hiding under?

The taser was invented in the 1960s, true. I just said, "the past" but never specified any given year or decade, do pay attention and try to keep up, there's a good chap.

Police in the UK have had the option to carry a gun for many years. When they do they are issued a Smith & Wesson Model 36. Most don't because they prefer to not be armed. That is however changing with the recent influx of violent third world people entering the UK. You ignore the fact that for the majority of modern European history, they have been much less violent than the rest of the world. Two world wars, and the depopulation from those wars probably have something to do with that, but there have been no studies done that I know of for my assertion. But the low violence rate of Europeans in general is well known.

Now be a good chap and pay attention.

And that has been my point. Violence levels have been low in Europe due to cultural factors, not gun control. As their societies are wrecked the increase in Fatherless homes, and the importation of violent 3rd world immigrants who do not share the values of British citizens...their violence rates are going to go up....and are currently going up. Throw in the need to cut police forces to pay for the other hand out government programs and they are on the verge of a crime wave.

You are insane. The UK and pretty much all of Western Europe is many times safer than the gun crazy US. Yet you continue to spout this lame nra bullet point. Give it up kid..

You have been shown, over and over that the stats say the opposite....Britain is more violent than the U.S.....and becoming more violent....keep telling yourself that it isn't.....

Children as young as four among hundreds caught with blades at school

In Manchester, an 11-year-old, who had replaced a highlighter nib with a blade, told another pupil: "Listen to me or else I'll stab you."

Former teacher David Simmons, who set up the Changing Lives charity, said he was confronted by a six-year-old brandishing a knife while working in a north London school.

"He was threatening other staff members and saying that he was going to stab them so I've gone over trying to calm this child down," he said. "He's then said he's going to stab me and kill me. At that age you just wouldn't have thought that a six-year-old should be doing that. Why were they doing that?"

tommy says "no crime in UK.."

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Tasers have been around for 25 years. What rock have you been hiding under?

The taser was invented in the 1960s, true. I just said, "the past" but never specified any given year or decade, do pay attention and try to keep up, there's a good chap.

Police in the UK have had the option to carry a gun for many years. When they do they are issued a Smith & Wesson Model 36. Most don't because they prefer to not be armed. That is however changing with the recent influx of violent third world people entering the UK. You ignore the fact that for the majority of modern European history, they have been much less violent than the rest of the world. Two world wars, and the depopulation from those wars probably have something to do with that, but there have been no studies done that I know of for my assertion. But the low violence rate of Europeans in general is well known.

Now be a good chap and pay attention.

And that has been my point. Violence levels have been low in Europe due to cultural factors, not gun control. As their societies are wrecked the increase in Fatherless homes, and the importation of violent 3rd world immigrants who do not share the values of British citizens...their violence rates are going to go up....and are currently going up. Throw in the need to cut police forces to pay for the other hand out government programs and they are on the verge of a crime wave.

You are insane. The UK and pretty much all of Western Europe is many times safer than the gun crazy US. Yet you continue to spout this lame nra bullet point. Give it up kid..

You have been shown, over and over that the stats say the opposite....Britain is more violent than the U.S.....and becoming more violent....keep telling yourself that it isn't.....

Children as young as four among hundreds caught with blades at school

In Manchester, an 11-year-old, who had replaced a highlighter nib with a blade, told another pupil: "Listen to me or else I'll stab you."

Former teacher David Simmons, who set up the Changing Lives charity, said he was confronted by a six-year-old brandishing a knife while working in a north London school.

"He was threatening other staff members and saying that he was going to stab them so I've gone over trying to calm this child down," he said. "He's then said he's going to stab me and kill me. At that age you just wouldn't have thought that a six-year-old should be doing that. Why were they doing that?"

10,000 Americans have been slaughtered by guns this year yet you trawl the UK press looking for anything you can use to deflect from the carnage. Get a girlfriend, or boyfriend , you freak..

 

[irosie91]

And the fact that they now need them....as opposed to the past......is the point.....the criminal culture is changing in Britain...

The point is that Tasers weren't around in "the past", Neither were computers or pepper sprays, or body cams, or stab vests, etc. Police everywhere in the world adapt to advances and changes in technology and adopt that which they find useful to do their jobs with maximum safety for all concerned. Apart from RWNJs over here, no one, especially the Police service itself, is advocating that police officers should be armed with firearms as a matter of course.

As for "criminal culture". That evolves as a result of changes in society, but police have always risked being attacked while doing their job of enforcing the law, it's called an occupational hazard.

Tasers have been around for 25 years. What rock have you been hiding under?

The taser was invented in the 1960s, true. I just said, "the past" but never specified any given year or decade, do pay attention and try to keep up, there's a good chap.

Police in the UK have had the option to carry a gun for many years. When they do they are issued a Smith & Wesson Model 36. Most don't because they prefer to not be armed. That is however changing with the recent influx of violent third world people entering the UK. You ignore the fact that for the majority of modern European history, they have been much less violent than the rest of the world. Two world wars, and the depopulation from those wars probably have something to do with that, but there have been no studies done that I know of for my assertion. But the low violence rate of Europeans in general is well known.

Now be a good chap and pay attention.

Yes, Europeans are more civilised in general, that's true. Unlike the USA, which has somehow managed to go from barbarism to decadence, without ever experiencing civilisation, as the saying goes.

the "saying" ?? ?? jack be nimble, jack be quick, jump over the teacup of british civility from the east end gutter into American hell ???????????????

 

[2aguy]

The taser was invented in the 1960s, true. I just said, "the past" but never specified any given year or decade, do pay attention and try to keep up, there's a good chap.

Police in the UK have had the option to carry a gun for many years. When they do they are issued a Smith & Wesson Model 36. Most don't because they prefer to not be armed. That is however changing with the recent influx of violent third world people entering the UK. You ignore the fact that for the majority of modern European history, they have been much less violent than the rest of the world. Two world wars, and the depopulation from those wars probably have something to do with that, but there have been no studies done that I know of for my assertion. But the low violence rate of Europeans in general is well known.

Now be a good chap and pay attention.

And that has been my point. Violence levels have been low in Europe due to cultural factors, not gun control. As their societies are wrecked the increase in Fatherless homes, and the importation of violent 3rd world immigrants who do not share the values of British citizens...their violence rates are going to go up....and are currently going up. Throw in the need to cut police forces to pay for the other hand out government programs and they are on the verge of a crime wave.

You are insane. The UK and pretty much all of Western Europe is many times safer than the gun crazy US. Yet you continue to spout this lame nra bullet point. Give it up kid..

You have been shown, over and over that the stats say the opposite....Britain is more violent than the U.S.....and becoming more violent....keep telling yourself that it isn't.....

Children as young as four among hundreds caught with blades at school

In Manchester, an 11-year-old, who had replaced a highlighter nib with a blade, told another pupil: "Listen to me or else I'll stab you."

Former teacher David Simmons, who set up the Changing Lives charity, said he was confronted by a six-year-old brandishing a knife while working in a north London school.

"He was threatening other staff members and saying that he was going to stab them so I've gone over trying to calm this child down," he said. "He's then said he's going to stab me and kill me. At that age you just wouldn't have thought that a six-year-old should be doing that. Why were they doing that?"

10,000 Americans have been slaughtered by guns this year yet you trawl the UK press looking for anything you can use to deflect from the carnage. Get a girlfriend, or boyfriend , you freak..

No....I am explaining to the anti-gunners that their gun control dreams are a fantasy....that Britain has done what they want to do, and the only thing keeping the peace is a culture among British criminals that doesn't include murder. And to warn you......that is changing.....and violence is going to flood your streets.....

 

[westwall]

And the fact that they now need them....as opposed to the past......is the point.....the criminal culture is changing in Britain...

The point is that Tasers weren't around in "the past", Neither were computers or pepper sprays, or body cams, or stab vests, etc. Police everywhere in the world adapt to advances and changes in technology and adopt that which they find useful to do their jobs with maximum safety for all concerned. Apart from RWNJs over here, no one, especially the Police service itself, is advocating that police officers should be armed with firearms as a matter of course.

As for "criminal culture". That evolves as a result of changes in society, but police have always risked being attacked while doing their job of enforcing the law, it's called an occupational hazard.

Tasers have been around for 25 years. What rock have you been hiding under?

The taser was invented in the 1960s, true. I just said, "the past" but never specified any given year or decade, do pay attention and try to keep up, there's a good chap.

Police in the UK have had the option to carry a gun for many years. When they do they are issued a Smith & Wesson Model 36. Most don't because they prefer to not be armed. That is however changing with the recent influx of violent third world people entering the UK. You ignore the fact that for the majority of modern European history, they have been much less violent than the rest of the world. Two world wars, and the depopulation from those wars probably have something to do with that, but there have been no studies done that I know of for my assertion. But the low violence rate of Europeans in general is well known.

Now be a good chap and pay attention.

So are you saying that PC Plod, can get up in the morning, walk into his station and ask the Sergeant for a gun because he has a bad feeling about his shift?

No, PC Plod will have gone to his Sgt many moons ago saying he would like to carry a firearm.

P.C. Plod then has one issued to him and he carries it as he chooses.

 

[Vagabond63]

Tasers have been around for 25 years. What rock have you been hiding under?

The taser was invented in the 1960s, true. I just said, "the past" but never specified any given year or decade, do pay attention and try to keep up, there's a good chap.

Police in the UK have had the option to carry a gun for many years. When they do they are issued a Smith & Wesson Model 36. Most don't because they prefer to not be armed. That is however changing with the recent influx of violent third world people entering the UK. You ignore the fact that for the majority of modern European history, they have been much less violent than the rest of the world. Two world wars, and the depopulation from those wars probably have something to do with that, but there have been no studies done that I know of for my assertion. But the low violence rate of Europeans in general is well known.

Now be a good chap and pay attention.

And that has been my point. Violence levels have been low in Europe due to cultural factors, not gun control. As their societies are wrecked the increase in Fatherless homes, and the importation of violent 3rd world immigrants who do not share the values of British citizens...their violence rates are going to go up....and are currently going up. Throw in the need to cut police forces to pay for the other hand out government programs and they are on the verge of a crime wave.

You are insane. The UK and pretty much all of Western Europe is many times safer than the gun crazy US. Yet you continue to spout this lame nra bullet point. Give it up kid..

You have been shown, over and over that the stats say the opposite....Britain is more violent than the U.S.....and becoming more violent....keep telling yourself that it isn't.....

Children as young as four among hundreds caught with blades at school

In Manchester, an 11-year-old, who had replaced a highlighter nib with a blade, told another pupil: "Listen to me or else I'll stab you."

Former teacher David Simmons, who set up the Changing Lives charity, said he was confronted by a six-year-old brandishing a knife while working in a north London school.

"He was threatening other staff members and saying that he was going to stab them so I've gone over trying to calm this child down," he said. "He's then said he's going to stab me and kill me. At that age you just wouldn't have thought that a six-year-old should be doing that. Why were they doing that?"

That's what years of Right wing ideological austerity creates, cut funds to youth services and projectsaand this is what you get. Having said that, 1400-odd incidents out of a school population of millions, hardly indicates we are getting more violent as a society

 

[Vagabond63]

The point is that Tasers weren't around in "the past", Neither were computers or pepper sprays, or body cams, or stab vests, etc. Police everywhere in the world adapt to advances and changes in technology and adopt that which they find useful to do their jobs with maximum safety for all concerned. Apart from RWNJs over here, no one, especially the Police service itself, is advocating that police officers should be armed with firearms as a matter of course.

As for "criminal culture". That evolves as a result of changes in society, but police have always risked being attacked while doing their job of enforcing the law, it's called an occupational hazard.

Tasers have been around for 25 years. What rock have you been hiding under?

The taser was invented in the 1960s, true. I just said, "the past" but never specified any given year or decade, do pay attention and try to keep up, there's a good chap.

Police in the UK have had the option to carry a gun for many years. When they do they are issued a Smith & Wesson Model 36. Most don't because they prefer to not be armed. That is however changing with the recent influx of violent third world people entering the UK. You ignore the fact that for the majority of modern European history, they have been much less violent than the rest of the world. Two world wars, and the depopulation from those wars probably have something to do with that, but there have been no studies done that I know of for my assertion. But the low violence rate of Europeans in general is well known.

Now be a good chap and pay attention.

So are you saying that PC Plod, can get up in the morning, walk into his station and ask the Sergeant for a gun because he has a bad feeling about his shift?

No, PC Plod will have gone to his Sgt many moons ago saying he would like to carry a firearm.

P.C. Plod then has one issued to him and he carries it as he chooses.

Prove it.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Tasers have been around for 25 years. What rock have you been hiding under?

The taser was invented in the 1960s, true. I just said, "the past" but never specified any given year or decade, do pay attention and try to keep up, there's a good chap.

Police in the UK have had the option to carry a gun for many years. When they do they are issued a Smith & Wesson Model 36. Most don't because they prefer to not be armed. That is however changing with the recent influx of violent third world people entering the UK. You ignore the fact that for the majority of modern European history, they have been much less violent than the rest of the world. Two world wars, and the depopulation from those wars probably have something to do with that, but there have been no studies done that I know of for my assertion. But the low violence rate of Europeans in general is well known.

Now be a good chap and pay attention.

So are you saying that PC Plod, can get up in the morning, walk into his station and ask the Sergeant for a gun because he has a bad feeling about his shift?

No, PC Plod will have gone to his Sgt many moons ago saying he would like to carry a firearm.

P.C. Plod then has one issued to him and he carries it as he chooses.

Prove it.

Ssshhhhhh !!!

 

[2aguy]

The taser was invented in the 1960s, true. I just said, "the past" but never specified any given year or decade, do pay attention and try to keep up, there's a good chap.

Police in the UK have had the option to carry a gun for many years. When they do they are issued a Smith & Wesson Model 36. Most don't because they prefer to not be armed. That is however changing with the recent influx of violent third world people entering the UK. You ignore the fact that for the majority of modern European history, they have been much less violent than the rest of the world. Two world wars, and the depopulation from those wars probably have something to do with that, but there have been no studies done that I know of for my assertion. But the low violence rate of Europeans in general is well known.

Now be a good chap and pay attention.

And that has been my point. Violence levels have been low in Europe due to cultural factors, not gun control. As their societies are wrecked the increase in Fatherless homes, and the importation of violent 3rd world immigrants who do not share the values of British citizens...their violence rates are going to go up....and are currently going up. Throw in the need to cut police forces to pay for the other hand out government programs and they are on the verge of a crime wave.

You are insane. The UK and pretty much all of Western Europe is many times safer than the gun crazy US. Yet you continue to spout this lame nra bullet point. Give it up kid..

You have been shown, over and over that the stats say the opposite....Britain is more violent than the U.S.....and becoming more violent....keep telling yourself that it isn't.....

Children as young as four among hundreds caught with blades at school

In Manchester, an 11-year-old, who had replaced a highlighter nib with a blade, told another pupil: "Listen to me or else I'll stab you."

Former teacher David Simmons, who set up the Changing Lives charity, said he was confronted by a six-year-old brandishing a knife while working in a north London school.

"He was threatening other staff members and saying that he was going to stab them so I've gone over trying to calm this child down," he said. "He's then said he's going to stab me and kill me. At that age you just wouldn't have thought that a six-year-old should be doing that. Why were they doing that?"

That's what years of Right wing ideological austerity creates, cut funds to youth services and projectsaand this is what you get. Having said that, 1400-odd incidents out of a school population of millions, hardly indicates we are getting more violent as a society

No...that is what decades of socialism create....you run out of money, so you have to start cutting everything...while taxing more....

Yes....Britain was violent, and it is becoming more violent....do you think the trend of teenagers stabbing each other to death is just going to end, as more teenage girls have more children without husbands and fathers in the home?

 

[Vagabond63]

Police in the UK have had the option to carry a gun for many years. When they do they are issued a Smith & Wesson Model 36. Most don't because they prefer to not be armed. That is however changing with the recent influx of violent third world people entering the UK. You ignore the fact that for the majority of modern European history, they have been much less violent than the rest of the world. Two world wars, and the depopulation from those wars probably have something to do with that, but there have been no studies done that I know of for my assertion. But the low violence rate of Europeans in general is well known.

Now be a good chap and pay attention.

And that has been my point. Violence levels have been low in Europe due to cultural factors, not gun control. As their societies are wrecked the increase in Fatherless homes, and the importation of violent 3rd world immigrants who do not share the values of British citizens...their violence rates are going to go up....and are currently going up. Throw in the need to cut police forces to pay for the other hand out government programs and they are on the verge of a crime wave.

You are insane. The UK and pretty much all of Western Europe is many times safer than the gun crazy US. Yet you continue to spout this lame nra bullet point. Give it up kid..

You have been shown, over and over that the stats say the opposite....Britain is more violent than the U.S.....and becoming more violent....keep telling yourself that it isn't.....

Children as young as four among hundreds caught with blades at school

In Manchester, an 11-year-old, who had replaced a highlighter nib with a blade, told another pupil: "Listen to me or else I'll stab you."

Former teacher David Simmons, who set up the Changing Lives charity, said he was confronted by a six-year-old brandishing a knife while working in a north London school.

"He was threatening other staff members and saying that he was going to stab them so I've gone over trying to calm this child down," he said. "He's then said he's going to stab me and kill me. At that age you just wouldn't have thought that a six-year-old should be doing that. Why were they doing that?"

That's what years of Right wing ideological austerity creates, cut funds to youth services and projectsaand this is what you get. Having said that, 1400-odd incidents out of a school population of millions, hardly indicates we are getting more violent as a society

No...that is what decades of socialism create....you run out of money, so you have to start cutting everything...while taxing more....

Yes....Britain was violent, and it is becoming more violent....do you think the trend of teenagers stabbing each other to death is just going to end, as more teenage girls have more children without husbands and fathers in the home?

Wait, what? Britain wasn't violent now it is, or Britain was violent and now is, you can't have it both ways, make up your mind.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Police in the UK have had the option to carry a gun for many years. When they do they are issued a Smith & Wesson Model 36. Most don't because they prefer to not be armed. That is however changing with the recent influx of violent third world people entering the UK. You ignore the fact that for the majority of modern European history, they have been much less violent than the rest of the world. Two world wars, and the depopulation from those wars probably have something to do with that, but there have been no studies done that I know of for my assertion. But the low violence rate of Europeans in general is well known.

Now be a good chap and pay attention.

And that has been my point. Violence levels have been low in Europe due to cultural factors, not gun control. As their societies are wrecked the increase in Fatherless homes, and the importation of violent 3rd world immigrants who do not share the values of British citizens...their violence rates are going to go up....and are currently going up. Throw in the need to cut police forces to pay for the other hand out government programs and they are on the verge of a crime wave.

You are insane. The UK and pretty much all of Western Europe is many times safer than the gun crazy US. Yet you continue to spout this lame nra bullet point. Give it up kid..

You have been shown, over and over that the stats say the opposite....Britain is more violent than the U.S.....and becoming more violent....keep telling yourself that it isn't.....

Children as young as four among hundreds caught with blades at school

In Manchester, an 11-year-old, who had replaced a highlighter nib with a blade, told another pupil: "Listen to me or else I'll stab you."

Former teacher David Simmons, who set up the Changing Lives charity, said he was confronted by a six-year-old brandishing a knife while working in a north London school.

"He was threatening other staff members and saying that he was going to stab them so I've gone over trying to calm this child down," he said. "He's then said he's going to stab me and kill me. At that age you just wouldn't have thought that a six-year-old should be doing that. Why were they doing that?"

That's what years of Right wing ideological austerity creates, cut funds to youth services and projectsaand this is what you get. Having said that, 1400-odd incidents out of a school population of millions, hardly indicates we are getting more violent as a society

No...that is what decades of socialism create....you run out of money, so you have to start cutting everything...while taxing more....

Yes....Britain was violent, and it is becoming more violent....do you think the trend of teenagers stabbing each other to death is just going to end, as more teenage girls have more children without husbands and fathers in the home?

FPA welcomes record low teenage pregnancy rates, but warns progress threatened by sexual health service cuts

Just stfu you know nothing dickhead.