Vietnam Part MCXLVIII

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    We'll start this off with onedomino's post from the Best/Worst Presidents thread:

    Had Johnson not escalated US involvement into what amounted to a civil war, and refused to support one despotic regime after another in the name of "demcracy" simply because they opposed what was a labelled a "commie" gov't, the end result would have been the same with WAY less loss of life and damage to property.

    The failure in Vietnam was s result of US failed foreign policy in general, and not the result of just Johnson's actions in Vietnam.
     
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    Why is it you can see this for vietnam but not for Iraq?

    It seems to me you only see fault when a D is beside someones name?

    Yes I agree that greedy Texan Johnson was a scum bag.

    I liked his AA stance but He was dispicable human being
     
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    Are you aware Howard E Hunt's deathbed confessions peg Johnson for the death of Kenendy?
     
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    Why is it you continue to make assumptions without doing your homework? There a PLENTY of threads on Iraq where my opinion is stated quite clearly. It has nothing to do with the "D" or the "R" anywhere except in your mind.

    We could have won in Vietnam, and we can win in Iraq. It just seems there are too many folks who think like you that either don't know or don't remember what winning is about, and/or what it takes to do so.
     
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    No substance just insults?

    Im right here cant you explain to me HOW we win this occupation in Iraq when they have voted to have us leave?

    BTW what does vietnam look like now?
     
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    You're right here trying to deflect the topic with your first post with the same BS you've introduced into another thread.

    And I'm not insulting you ...yet. There'll be no doubt in your mind when and if I do.
     
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    So does this mean you wont answer me?
     
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    You wont even outline how we could have won a civil war in Vietnam?

    How does a foriegn government win a civil war for someone else?
     
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    Quite simply, you win militarily by destroying your enemy, and taking away his means of resistance and/or war-making capablilities. If that means killing each and every one, then THAT is what you do.
     
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    Heres the problem with that.

    You go in an "destroy" what?

    All you do is destroy your percieved enemies ability to fight back.

    You leave and it builds until the TRUE winner emerges.

    Imagine it in your own country, some foriegn entity steps in and helps the south win.

    They leave and within years the war starts all over because the war was never really settled by the people.

    A foriegn entity can NEVER win a civil war.
     

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