Venezuela’s minister says major power outage likely caused by ‘cyberattack’, points finger at US

[Papageorgio]

ours.....

Trump Delivers Blunt Warning to Venezuela Military Over Aid Impasse

~S~

He has no authority. When did Congress give him that "imperium"?

they don't have to Dan

basically any administration can cloak regime change under the guise of humanitarian aid.....right now we've all manner of 'aid' on the columbian border flexing their muscle.....~S~

No, they can't. Nothing but social plans and no capital plans from the right wing?

Besides, lousy right wing management fails to promote the general welfare.

So does left wing management.

The problem is management is not promoting anything and is nothing but command and control which always fails whether left or right

talk is cheap. FDR turned our relative third world economy into the first world economy we have now.

FDR Was not around when the US economy grew into the largest in the world, that was in 1890 when the US started into the industrial reveloution.

 

[Soupnazi630]

A fictional list made up by radical lefties yes

Blind loyalty isn't patriotism ya nitwit.

Which is not an argument or a refutation

 

[the other mike]

The U.S. Has a Long History of Election Meddling - The Atlantic

What many Russians, but few Americans, know is that 20 years before Russia tried to swing an American presidential election, America tried to swing a presidential election in Russia. The year was 1996. Boris Yeltsin was seeking a second term, and Bill Clinton desperately wanted to help. “I want this guy to win so bad,” he told Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott, “it hurts.”

Clinton liked Yeltsin personally. He considered him Russia’s best hope for embracing democracy and capitalism. And he appreciated Yeltsin’s acquiescence during nato’s march eastward, into the former Soviet bloc.

Unfortunately for Clinton, ordinary Russians appreciated their leader far less. Yeltsin’s “shock-therapy” economic reforms had reduced the government’s safety net, and produced a spike in unemployment and inflation. Between 1990 and 1994, the average life expectancy among Russian men had dropped by an astonishing six years. When Yeltsin began his reelection campaign in January 1996, his approval rating stood at 6 percent, lower than Stalin’s.

 

[Papageorgio]

RT is a Russian TV propaganda site, why on earth would, after 2016 what to even look at Russian propaganda?

Keep sleepwalking Papa Douchio.

So your rebuttal to a Russain news source is name calling. Great you sure convinced me.

It gets very tiring hearing these same propaganda points about Russia over and over....not just you, Pippins.

Nothing but more name calling. Cool!

 

[danielpalos]

You can't appeal to ignorance to plead your special case. Our social Contract is our Constitution which declares our form of social-ism.

It is not a special case and it is you appealing to ignorance.

Sorry but your made up definition is false and that is fact.

The constitution is not a contract nor socialism.

Trying to save face by insisting a false definition is correct is just childish

You have no facts. Social-ism is what we are quibbling.

Yes I do and socialism is not what you claim it is.

That is fact

Social-ism is what we are quibbling. You have no facts, only political jargon from a dictionary.

Dictionaries provide definitions not political jargon and they prove you wrong.

Now you admit your definition is simply one you made up and a false one

Yes, it is political jargon and You cannot show how that term evolved to mean that specific definition.

It is a McCarthy era definition.

 

[danielpalos]

He has no authority. When did Congress give him that "imperium"?

they don't have to Dan

basically any administration can cloak regime change under the guise of humanitarian aid.....right now we've all manner of 'aid' on the columbian border flexing their muscle.....~S~

No, they can't. Nothing but social plans and no capital plans from the right wing?

Besides, lousy right wing management fails to promote the general welfare.

So does left wing management.

The problem is management is not promoting anything and is nothing but command and control which always fails whether left or right

talk is cheap. FDR turned our relative third world economy into the first world economy we have now.

FDR Was not around when the US economy grew into the largest in the world, that was in 1890 when the US started into the industrial reveloution.

Turn of the Century, Iron Mill Towns?

FDR's socialism, all the way!

 

[Papageorgio]

The U.S. Has a Long History of Election Meddling - The Atlantic

What many Russians, but few Americans, know is that 20 years before Russia tried to swing an American presidential election, America tried to swing a presidential election in Russia. The year was 1996. Boris Yeltsin was seeking a second term, and Bill Clinton desperately wanted to help. “I want this guy to win so bad,” he told Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott, “it hurts.”

Clinton liked Yeltsin personally. He considered him Russia’s best hope for embracing democracy and capitalism. And he appreciated Yeltsin’s acquiescence during nato’s march eastward, into the former Soviet bloc.

Unfortunately for Clinton, ordinary Russians appreciated their leader far less. Yeltsin’s “shock-therapy” economic reforms had reduced the government’s safety net, and produced a spike in unemployment and inflation. Between 1990 and 1994, the average life expectancy among Russian men had dropped by an astonishing six years. When Yeltsin began his reelection campaign in January 1996, his approval rating stood at 6 percent, lower than Stalin’s.

The Russians and US have been meddling in each other’s elections for decades, that is why I don’t listen to Russian propaganda sites, nor do I trust Venezuela in their anti-American propaganda.

 

[the other mike]

The Russians and US have been meddling in each other’s elections for decades, that is why I don’t listen to Russian propaganda sites, nor do I trust Venezuela in their anti-American propaganda.

Not true at all. Russia has not interfered here except in this charade being played out the last 2 years.

 

[the other mike]

The less Americans know about America’s history of electoral interference, the more likely they are to acquiesce to—or even cheer—its return. That’s dangerous because, historically, American meddling has done far more to harm democracy than promote it.

 

[Soupnazi630]

No he did not actually.

yes, he did, actually.

History proves otherwise.

he did not

Hoover Dam is public sector means of production. Right wing bigotry is worthless when you Only have inferior arguments.

Yes and public sector does not mean socialism

Left wing bigotry is as bad or worse

The most inferior arguments are demonstrably false arguments such as arguments like yours where you insist on applying a false definition of socialism

simply resorting to the Other Peoples' money is socialism.

Wrong that is not socialism and it is not defined any way you wish

 

[Soupnazi630]

The less Americans know about America’s history of electoral interference, the more likely they are to acquiesce to—or even cheer—its return. That’s dangerous because, historically, American meddling has done far more to harm democracy than promote it.

That is because there is little to know and most of that alleged interference is just crap from extreme leftists.

 

[Soupnazi630]

I have stated facts not emotion and it is you who is ignorant as hell about the subject.

Socialism is not any and all government it is a specific form which is always a failure and abominable. Your definition is false and a failure

We have no socialism although it is encroaching and needs to be halted

lousy capitalists worry about "socialism" with our Commerce Clause.

That is not socialism.

Once again you are ignorant as hell about the subject.

Yes, it is. Our social Contract establishes our form of social-ism.

Wrong.

There is no such thing ads a social contract and socialism is a specific form of government not just any form of government.

It does not matter how many times you say otherwise your wish to rewrite the definition is simply a failure and nothing more

You can't appeal to ignorance to plead your special case. Our social Contract is our Constitution which declares our form of social-ism.

I am not appealing to ignorance you are. No one is ignorant of what socialism is.

This is why everyone with basic education knows your claims are false.

Your definition is false

We have no social contract and the Constitution declares no social-ism

 

[Soupnazi630]

It is not a special case and it is you appealing to ignorance.

Sorry but your made up definition is false and that is fact.

The constitution is not a contract nor socialism.

Trying to save face by insisting a false definition is correct is just childish

You have no facts. Social-ism is what we are quibbling.

Yes I do and socialism is not what you claim it is.

That is fact

Social-ism is what we are quibbling. You have no facts, only political jargon from a dictionary.

Dictionaries provide definitions not political jargon and they prove you wrong.

Now you admit your definition is simply one you made up and a false one

Yes, it is political jargon and You cannot show how that term evolved to mean that specific definition.

It is a McCarthy era definition.

Wrong it is an English definition whereas your definition is merely pulled from your ass

The term never meant and does not mean what you stupidly claim it does

 

[georgephillip]

Because of the complexity of US sanctions and the high penalties for any violations, some banks are avoiding doing any business with Venezuela, which is a crime committed by capitalists, not socialists.

part of which is why the Trump administration wants the opposition installed.....~S~

part of which is why the Trump administration wants the opposition installed.....~S~

Trump is at least more transparent about stealing Venezuela's oil than most politicians are. Maybe that's how you run a government like a business?

 

[percysunshine]

Sounds like a conspiracy theory...

Yet nobody answers the question....
How did Marco Rubio know [of the attack] a few minutes later that the backup generators had failed ? At that time, no one knew yet.

Because it is too predictable?


Polish Prince nailed it; Marxist governments like Maduros run out competent people and so few are left who know anything useful.

Polish Prince nailed it; Marxist governments like Maduros run out competent people and so few are left who know anything useful.

Can you explain how a "Marxist government" can function without nationalizing its banks? Two-thirds of the Venezuelan economy is in private hands, including the distribution of toilet paper.

"Another Failed Coup in Venezuela?"

Another Failed Coup in Venezuela?

So it only takes half Marxist to destroy a country now? Well price controls probably help.

Btw...PDVSA is the bank.

So it only takes half Marxist to destroy a country now? Well price controls probably help.

Btw...PDVSA is the bank.

PDVSA is the state-owned oil and natural gas company in Venezuela.

Banks in Venezuela - Overview of Banks in Venezuela

"Overview of Banks in Venezuela

"Governmental organization Central Bank of Venezuela, or Banco Central de Venezuela (BCV), is the country’s central monetary authority.

"It also serves as the governing agent of the Clearing House System. Founded in 1939, BCV oversees banks in Venezuela and keeps a fixed exchange rate for the Venezuelan bolívar.

"Aside from the central bank, the state banking system is composed of regional and development banks that are managed by the Venezuelan Development Corp., commercial banks, investment banks, mortgage banks in Venezuela, as well as savings and loan associations."

Because of the complexity of US sanctions and the high penalties for any violations, some banks are avoiding doing any business with Venezuela, which is a crime committed by capitalists, not socialists.

Controlling the means of production in good Marxist fashion...they killed it. Ever looked at PDVSA oil production?

 

[danielpalos]

yes, he did, actually.

History proves otherwise.

he did not

Hoover Dam is public sector means of production. Right wing bigotry is worthless when you Only have inferior arguments.

Yes and public sector does not mean socialism

Left wing bigotry is as bad or worse

The most inferior arguments are demonstrably false arguments such as arguments like yours where you insist on applying a false definition of socialism

simply resorting to the Other Peoples' money is socialism.

Wrong that is not socialism and it is not defined any way you wish

the right wing can't keep their story straight:

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”

― Margaret Thatcher

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

 

[danielpalos]

lousy capitalists worry about "socialism" with our Commerce Clause.

That is not socialism.

Once again you are ignorant as hell about the subject.

Yes, it is. Our social Contract establishes our form of social-ism.

Wrong.

There is no such thing ads a social contract and socialism is a specific form of government not just any form of government.

It does not matter how many times you say otherwise your wish to rewrite the definition is simply a failure and nothing more

You can't appeal to ignorance to plead your special case. Our social Contract is our Constitution which declares our form of social-ism.

I am not appealing to ignorance you are. No one is ignorant of what socialism is.

This is why everyone with basic education knows your claims are false.

Your definition is false

We have no social contract and the Constitution declares no social-ism

i gainsay your contention, want to argue about it?

 

[danielpalos]

You have no facts. Social-ism is what we are quibbling.

Yes I do and socialism is not what you claim it is.

That is fact

Social-ism is what we are quibbling. You have no facts, only political jargon from a dictionary.

Dictionaries provide definitions not political jargon and they prove you wrong.

Now you admit your definition is simply one you made up and a false one

Yes, it is political jargon and You cannot show how that term evolved to mean that specific definition.

It is a McCarthy era definition.

Wrong it is an English definition whereas your definition is merely pulled from your ass

The term never meant and does not mean what you stupidly claim it does

you are simply Wrong, like usual.

 

[the other mike]

That is because there is little to know and most of that alleged interference is just crap from extreme leftists.

No because the MSM is the CIA's watchdog.

 

[danielpalos]

why not believe our "good buddies" the Russians?