USA backing Islamic uprising?

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    Is we really that crazy ?

    Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising
    The American government secretly backed leading figures behind the Egyptian uprising who have been planning “regime change” for the past three years, The Daily Telegraph has learned.

    By Tim Ross, Matthew Moore and Steven Swinford 9:23PM GMT 28 Jan 2011
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    The American Embassy in Cairo helped a young dissident attend a US-sponsored summit for activists in New York, while working to keep his identity secret from Egyptian state police.

    On his return to Cairo in December 2008, the activist told US diplomats that an alliance of opposition groups had drawn up a plan to overthrow President Hosni Mubarak and install a democratic government in 2011.
    The secret document in full

    He has already been arrested by Egyptian security in connection with the demonstrations and his identity is being protected by The Daily Telegraph.
    The crisis in Egypt follows the toppling of Tunisian president Zine al-Abedine Ben Ali, who fled the country after widespread protests forced him from office.


    Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising - Telegraph

    Stay tuned for wiki leaks or what ever.
     
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    nice lying by conflating rebel-leaders with islamic leaders.

    you are scum. but that is nothing new.
     
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    Fuck you.
    It is sad US cit is sick and you are just fine.
     
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    This is an article I tend to agree with. I read it with interest and cannot disagree with it, in my gut.
     
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    hey, fitnut. don't lie so obviously, and you don't get slapped into your bigotted e-face.

    easy, even for you.
     
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    Iran Sees Rise of Islamic Hard-Liners


    TEHRAN — Hopeful that the protests sweeping Arab lands may create an opening for hard-line Islamic forces, conservatives in Iran are taking deep satisfaction in the events in Tunisia, Egypt and Yemen, where secular leaders have faced large-scale uprisings.

    While the government of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad confronted its own popular uprising two years ago — and successfully suppressed it — conservatives in Iran said they saw little similarity between those events and the Arab revolts, and instead likened the recent upheavals to Iran’s own 1979 Islamic revolution.

    “In my opinion, the Islamic Republic of Iran should see these events without exception in a positive light,” said Mohammad-Javad Larijani, secretary general of the Iranian High Council for Human Rights and one of the most outspoken figures among Iran’s traditional conservatives.

    He made it clear that he hoped that the “anti-Islamic” government of Zine el-Abidine Ben Ali, who was ousted in Tunisia, would be replaced by a “people’s government,” meaning one in which conservative Islamic forces would gain the upper hand, as they did when Iranian people overthrew Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, establishing a quasi-theocracy.

    On the other side are the United States and France, he said, who are “doing everything they can to ride the wave and prevent the people from establishing the regime that they desire.”

    “I am more optimistic about Egypt,” Mr. Larijani said in comments published Friday on the Web site Khabar Online, which is closely linked to his brother, Ali Larijani, the Parliament speaker.

    “There, Muslims are more active in political agitation and, God willing, they will establish the regime that they want,” Mohammad-Javad Larijani said.

    Some here have even echoed the pan-Islamic rhetoric of the founder of the Islamic Republic, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/29/world/middleeast/29iran.html?_r=2&hp
     
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    and how is this supporting your thread title?

    but it is nice to see that you will use the iranian hardline mullah's propaganda to support your failed little propaganda attempt.
     
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    Doesnt matter who we think we are dealing with the west no longer understands what was common knowledge 100 years ago. Our government believes the Islam has been hijacked myth.


    These things being so, the recrudescence of Islam, the possibility
    of that terror under which we lived for centuries reappearing, and of our
    civilization again fighting for its life against what was its chief enemy
    for a thousand years, seems fantastic. Who in the Mohammedan world today
    can manufacture and maintain the complicated instruments of modern war?
    Where is the political machinery whereby the religion of Islam can play an
    equal part in the modern world?

    I say the suggestion that Islam may re-arise sounds fantastic_but
    this is only because men are always powerfully affected by the immediate
    past:_one might say that they are blinded by it.

    http://www.ewtn.com/library/HOMELIBR/HERESY4.TXT
    The Great Heresies

    By Hilaire Belloc
    1938

    The Great Heresies, by Hilaire Belloc
     
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    Why would the US back this uprising? We have supported Mubarak for many years and consider Egypt and ally. When the people rise up to overthrow a government, nobody knows for sure just what the new government will look like or who they will align themselves with. Clearly there is quite a bit of resentment in Egypt directed toward American because of it's support for Mubarak.

    Considering that Egypt boarders Israel and the US close ties to Israel, I doubt the US would want to rock the boat. We already have two wars going that we desperately want out of.
     
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    Every "radical " in the world id heading to Egypt to win the future for Islam.
     

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