Yurt
Gold Member
what a wuss...you lose the argument and fall back on that....yet you have been insulting other posters, but i guess it is OK if you do it
hypocrite
lmao
hypocrite
lmao
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what a wuss...you lose the argument and fall back on that....yet you have been insulting other posters, but i guess it is OK if you do it
hypocrite
lmao
what a wuss...you lose the argument and fall back on that....yet you have been insulting other posters, but i guess it is OK if you do it
hypocrite
lmao
You can neg rep me all you want. If you want to have a flame fest there are lots of others I'm sure you can find to play with.
I'll discuss and defend my positions with anyone else who wants to do so in an adult manner.
Thanks for demostrating yet once again for all to see who the fucking moron is.
What are the unemployment rates in those socialist countries? she wondered!
Even with our current problems, more than us and their annual growth is next to nothing.
The reason they pay so much is cause they are a Liberals wet dream, social programs that eat every dime raised.
What are the unemployment rates in those socialist countries? she wondered!
Even with our current problems, more than us and their annual growth is next to nothing.
The reason they pay so much is cause they are a Liberals wet dream, social programs that eat every dime raised.
I see. Such a Goddamned shame, spending money on the citizens that create the wealth.
what a wuss...you lose the argument and fall back on that....yet you have been insulting other posters, but i guess it is OK if you do it
hypocrite
lmao
You can neg rep me all you want. If you want to have a flame fest there are lots of others I'm sure you can find to play with.
I'll discuss and defend my positions with anyone else who wants to do so in an adult manner.
and apparently you neg rep me as well...more hypocritical whining from you
you think that was a flame fest...dude, get over yourself. you insult people, but that is ok....you're so sensitive when someone does it you though, forbid someone should call you a moron for accusing them of saying you said something when they clearly did not as they (I) put a question mark on the end. if you can't handle things getting heated, best stay away.
apparently you could not maturely handle the rest of the post, no surprise as you backed yourself in a corner and clearly showed yourself as a hypocrite.
oh and please accuse me of a flame fest by calling you a hypocrite, please....
wimp
Originally Posted by Iriemon
Thanks for demostrating yet once again for all to see who the fucking moron is.
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I heartily agree with the part that I highlited in red. I think the tax system is complex so that it will be un-understandable. The simple fact that about half of the citizens are paying tax and about half are not is a very dangerous equation all by itself.
Whether it's a flat tax or a state based tax, it needs to be less complex and more simple. Anytime something gets complex, I feel like the screwing has begun.
Our tax system is a maze of confusion right now that punishes and rewards based on caprice. If you want to see a movie, you need to pay the admission. If you want to be a citizen, you only need to pay according to your means and, if you need increasingly more assistance from the government, you pay increasingly less. What's wrong with this picture?
yes, the bottom 50% income earners pay only 3.5 percent of the income tax bill.
however, the bottom 50% only own/earn 2.5% of the wealth in this country.
the top 1% income earner individuals, own/earn 33% of all the wealth in this country...
that's a pretty huge disparity in wealth owned....whose gap has only grown larger.
I agree our income taxes are way too complicated and need simplifying, but i do not believe the wealthiest are paying too much or our poorest are paying too little of the income tax burden....based on their share of this country's individual wealth.
http://www.tolerance.org/images/teach/activities/tt_wealth_tables.pdf
care
Care.. make sure you separate wealth and earnings.. we tax on earnings/income... not on what you have saved
And since we tax on earnings... and we are supposed to be a country based on equality... as stated SO many times... we need a 1 rate system, simplified with loopholes eliminated... every last person pays the same X% on every last dollar earned.... THAT is fair share
yes, the bottom 50% income earners pay only 3.5 percent of the income tax bill.
however, the bottom 50% only own/earn 2.5% of the wealth in this country.
the top 1% income earner individuals, own/earn 33% of all the wealth in this country...
that's a pretty huge disparity in wealth owned....whose gap has only grown larger.
I agree our income taxes are way too complicated and need simplifying, but i do not believe the wealthiest are paying too much or our poorest are paying too little of the income tax burden....based on their share of this country's individual wealth.
http://www.tolerance.org/images/teach/activities/tt_wealth_tables.pdf
care
Care.. make sure you separate wealth and earnings.. we tax on earnings/income... not on what you have saved
And since we tax on earnings... and we are supposed to be a country based on equality... as stated SO many times... we need a 1 rate system, simplified with loopholes eliminated... every last person pays the same X% on every last dollar earned.... THAT is fair share
Yes we do tax on what we have earned, with the exception of all the tax deductions we can take if itemizing verses filing the short form of which 60% of Americans use.
I contend that the reason those with alot of wealth get to gather and accumilate their wealth to a greater degree than those without the money for savings or investments, are tax laws that give them the opportunity to defer their taxes or shelter their money from any taxes....municiple bonds, holding alot of stock, real estate investments, or moving your corps money/head quarters over seas.
Care
Yes and when we do who will pay for you?????
he won't debate, but will insult me to take a pill.....
Originally Posted by Iriemon
Thanks for demostrating yet once again for all to see who the fucking moron is.
oh look, the hypocrite is still running from the debate because i called him a moron for not knowing the difference between a question mark and a period.
i should have said fucking moron and then that would have been adult conversation.....as he has no problem calling other a fucking moron, but whines when i call him a moron