US Savage Imperialism

[Baruch Menachem]

chomsky's an idiot.

Idiot savant.

Just because you know everything about something does not mean you know a whole lot about anything else.

But Chomsky's big insight (That human grammar seems instinctive, but specific grammars are cultural) seems pretty obvios.

And quite a lot of folks who are very bright, also find themselves going down rabbit holes or through the looking glass when they forget their humanity.

Chomsky, like Kozinsky, is what happens when you combine brilliance with psychosis.

 

[georgephillip]

Description of Appeal to Authority

An Appeal to Authority is a fallacy with the following form:

1. Person A is (claimed to be) an authority on subject S.
2. Person A makes claim C about subject S.
3. Therefore, C is true.

This fallacy is committed when the person in question is not a legitimate authority on the subject. More formally, if person A is not qualified to make reliable claims in subject S, then the argument will be fallacious.​

True or False?

"It (the US) was a very racist country all the way through its history, not just anti-black. That was Jefferson's image and the others more or less agreed with it. So it's a settler colonialist society.

"Settler colonialism is far and away the worst kind of imperialism, the most savage kind because it requires eliminating the indigenous population.

"That's not unrelated, I think, to the kind of reflexive U.S. support for Israel—which is also a settler colonial society. Its policies resonate with a sense of American history.

"It's kind of reliving it. It goes beyond that because the early settlers in the U.S. were religious fundamentalists who regarded themselves as the children of Israel, following the divine commandment to settle the promised land and slaughter the Amalekites and so on and so forth. That's right around here, the early settlers in Massachusetts."

Chomsky has published numerous volumns on US foreign policy.

He's far more qualified to his political opinions than you are to judge his political opinions.

Not that that's likely to stop you.

US Savage

 

[Revere]

Only Iran wants a nuclear Iran.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

If Chomsky is not talking about applied linguistics, he is just one more bum at the end of the bar.

 

[loosecannon]

What were his contributions? I've never seen any other than his hatred of America.

1. He has figured out how to make an exceptional fortune while living as a self-described ‘anarchist-socialist’ dissident in a capitalist society he has described as a ‘police state.’

wrong, it is spelled anarcho-syndicalism and it is neither anarchy or socialism. It is something else entirely:

Anarcho-syndicalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[loosecannon]

If Chomsky is not talking about applied linguistics, he is just one more bum at the end of the bar.

Except for the fact that he is perhaps the most respected of all American political science scholars.

EVERYBODY who understands Chomsky takes him seriously. So seriously that there are several folks who have made an entire career out of minimizing the impacts of Chomsky's message.

 

[loosecannon]

Only Iran wants a nuclear Iran.

Actually every signatory of the NPT has already legally agreed to Iran's rights to civilian Nuclear technology. No evidence exists to support allegations that Iran's nuclear program is military or illegal under the NPT.

Saudi Arabia and Israel are not "everybody". We already invaded Iraq twice and Afghanistan once to placate the security concerns of Israel and SA. How many more nations must we invade before they can feel secure?

 

[Two Thumbs]

sometimes I wonder if these America hating assholes will ever have the guts to move out of the country?

I don't understand. I hated the winters in IL so I moved. If I hated all of America? Well Canada speaks the same language.

 

[elvis]

sometimes I wonder if these America hating assholes will ever have the guts to move out of the country?

I don't understand. I hated the winters in IL so I moved. If I hated all of America? Well Canada speaks the same language.

But Canada's winters are worse than Illinois'.

 

[loosecannon]

sometimes I wonder if these America hating assholes will ever have the guts to move out of the country?

I don't understand. I hated the winters in IL so I moved. If I hated all of America? Well Canada speaks the same language.

That's funny, you pull from your ass some scandalous claim that a public figure "hates America" in the same post in which you admit hating at least parts of America.

Me thinks thou doth protest too loudly.

 

[loosecannon]

sometimes I wonder if these America hating assholes will ever have the guts to move out of the country?

I don't understand. I hated the winters in IL so I moved. If I hated all of America? Well Canada speaks the same language.

But Canada's winters are worse than Illinois'.

Canada's winters are mighty white!

 

[elvis]

sometimes I wonder if these America hating assholes will ever have the guts to move out of the country?

I don't understand. I hated the winters in IL so I moved. If I hated all of America? Well Canada speaks the same language.

That's funny, you pull from your ass some scandalous claim that a public figure "hates America" in the same post in which you admit hating at least parts of America.

Me thinks thou doth protest too loudly.

Weather and the nation's character are two different things.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

Not in British Columbia. Here in the Northwet, even in the far northwet, winters are very mild.

 

[elvis]

Not in British Columbia. Here in the Northwet, even in the far northwet, winters are very mild.

ah that's true. I keep thinking of Sault Ste. Marie.

 

[BlindBoo]

Description of Appeal to Authority

An Appeal to Authority is a fallacy with the following form:

1. Person A is (claimed to be) an authority on subject S.
2. Person A makes claim C about subject S.
3. Therefore, C is true.

This fallacy is committed when the person in question is not a legitimate authority on the subject. More formally, if person A is not qualified to make reliable claims in subject S, then the argument will be fallacious.​

True or False?

"It (the US) was a very racist country all the way through its history, not just anti-black. That was Jefferson's image and the others more or less agreed with it. So it's a settler colonialist society.

"Settler colonialism is far and away the worst kind of imperialism, the most savage kind because it requires eliminating the indigenous population.

"That's not unrelated, I think, to the kind of reflexive U.S. support for Israel—which is also a settler colonial society. Its policies resonate with a sense of American history.

"It's kind of reliving it. It goes beyond that because the early settlers in the U.S. were religious fundamentalists who regarded themselves as the children of Israel, following the divine commandment to settle the promised land and slaughter the Amalekites and so on and so forth. That's right around here, the early settlers in Massachusetts."

Chomsky has published numerous volumns on US foreign policy.

He's far more qualified to his political opinions than you are to judge his political opinions.

Not that that's likely to stop you.

US Savage

Nobody wants to hear what is being done in our name overseas. 70% are fat and happy with American Idol or any number of other worthless destractions. They don't care about the similarities between our settlers and Israelis. They just know the myths about how Israel magically sprang into being in 1948. You know, how all the Arab states visciously and without warning declared war on them as soon as they became a country. Don't you know they made the desert bloom? Israel (Palestine to the rest of the world) was a place without people for a people without a place (or somesuch shit likethat).

 

[Two Thumbs]

sometimes I wonder if these America hating assholes will ever have the guts to move out of the country?

I don't understand. I hated the winters in IL so I moved. If I hated all of America? Well Canada speaks the same language.

But Canada's winters are worse than Illinois'.

Crap!

there's a hole in my plan.

On the bright side, I wouldn't have to put up with the Lake Effect anymore.

 

[Agit8r]

In the beginning, there is Chomsky.

"It's tempting to go back to the beginning.

"The beginning goes pretty far back, but it is useful to think about some aspects of American history that bear directly on current U.S. policy in the Middle East.

"The U.S. is a pretty unusual country in many ways.

"It's maybe the only country in the world that was founded as an empire.

"It was an infant empire—as George Washington called it—and the founding fathers had broad aspirations.

"The most libertarian of them, Thomas Jefferson, thought that this infant empire should spread and become what he called the 'nest' from which the entire continent would be colonized.

"That would get rid of the 'Red,' the Indians as they'd be driven away or exterminated.

"The Blacks would be sent back to Africa when we don't need them anymore and the Latins will be eliminated by a superior race."

Does American history, with its settler colonialist mentality, resonate with US support for Israel's current policies in the occupied territories?

Is today's "Iranian Threat" the latest manifestation of John Quincy Adams's grand strategy of security through expansion, the belief "...that you can't really have security until you control everything"?

I don't think that the aspiration that our founders had for ridding the world of ignorance and superstition can be compared to the modern warfare waged in the name of ignorance and superstition. just saying

 

[daveman]

Description of Appeal to Authority

An Appeal to Authority is a fallacy with the following form:

1. Person A is (claimed to be) an authority on subject S.
2. Person A makes claim C about subject S.
3. Therefore, C is true.

This fallacy is committed when the person in question is not a legitimate authority on the subject. More formally, if person A is not qualified to make reliable claims in subject S, then the argument will be fallacious.​

True or False?

"It (the US) was a very racist country all the way through its history, not just anti-black. That was Jefferson's image and the others more or less agreed with it. So it's a settler colonialist society.

"Settler colonialism is far and away the worst kind of imperialism, the most savage kind because it requires eliminating the indigenous population.

"That's not unrelated, I think, to the kind of reflexive U.S. support for Israel—which is also a settler colonial society. Its policies resonate with a sense of American history.

"It's kind of reliving it. It goes beyond that because the early settlers in the U.S. were religious fundamentalists who regarded themselves as the children of Israel, following the divine commandment to settle the promised land and slaughter the Amalekites and so on and so forth. That's right around here, the early settlers in Massachusetts."

Chomsky has published numerous volumns on US foreign policy.

He's far more qualified to his political opinions than you are to judge his political opinions.

Not that that's likely to stop you.

US Savage

It's true...or at least it was. What idiot Chomsky (and therefore idiot you) fails to realize is we are no longer a racist nation.

Chomsky is an idiot. He's also a war profiteer. Explain your hypocrisy now.

 

[daveman]

If Chomsky is not talking about applied linguistics, he is just one more bum at the end of the bar.

Except for the fact that he is perhaps the most respected of all American political science scholars.

EVERYBODY who understands Chomsky takes him seriously. So seriously that there are several folks who have made an entire career out of minimizing the impacts of Chomsky's message.

A lot of people like Lady GaGa, too. So?

 

[Two Thumbs]

sometimes I wonder if these America hating assholes will ever have the guts to move out of the country?

I don't understand. I hated the winters in IL so I moved. If I hated all of America? Well Canada speaks the same language.

That's funny, you pull from your ass some scandalous claim that a public figure "hates America" in the same post in which you admit hating at least parts of America.

Me thinks thou doth protest too loudly.

Are you nuts?

One, I wasn't being all that specific to chomski. It was a general statement. As I read this OP I was struck by how many posters whine at least once a week how Bad America is.

If you, or anyone hates it here so much, they do speak English in Canada.

As far as hating IL, you are off your rocker. I friggin LOVE Illinois! You can see forever there, the strong winds, the epic lightning storms, the Cubs, the Bears, Sears Tower, the art, the fields. I miss it.

But the winter is just friggin brutal.

I'd hate that kind of winter anywhere.