US has placed no Amb. in Ankara

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    If you make "local politics" for Congressional elections pleasing Lobbies, it is clear, that this kind of relationship is not healthy and you should keep your Ambassadors with Turks sending the rest of Americans also back.

    Maybe I should start a civil society initiative on Facebook called "5 Million Turks occupy Incirlik before year end".
    Maybe we won't reach 5 Million, but we will crack 1 Million mark. I bet.
     
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    While there is no ambassador, I have no doubt there is still a US Embassy and an extremely competent set of staffers willing to handle all complaints the Turkish government has.

    Additionally, considering it's the 21st Century, isn't the role of the ambassador a little redundant now? If the Turkish President wants to talk to Obama, he can just power up Skype.
     
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    What's the matter? Hasn't Turkey bribed congress enough to get who it wants appointed yet. :lol:
     
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    interesting, thx, I was not aware we didn't have a full ambassador in Turkey, this serves no one.
     
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    uhm thats not really how its done, the pres. uses state career employees to deliver messages and discuss topics, ambassadors ARE window dressing but they are important status symbols, we should have one there.
     
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    Have you ever been introduced to the concept of hyperbole?

    Anyhow, this is a non-issue. Unless you can prove that it is somehow interfering with relations, a slight delay in the presence of an ambassador is hardly noteworthy.
     
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    Relations between states are not solely based on developments explainable with scientific concepts. A big portion of it is prestige, playing for the own audience and sending signs to third parties.

    The major problems in US-Turkish relations is US congress.
    With Administration we do not have neccasarily a problem.
    It's the US Congress continously playing morale compass, voicing out Lobby interests and poisoning continuation of relations.
     
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    The U.S. Congress making angry noises and passing resolutions on and about the Armenian Genocide is one thing. However, the State Department is most definitely within the realm of the Executive (not Legislative) Branch of the U.S. Federal Government. In essence, they are completely different issues.

    Unless we're somehow going beyond what the OP stated, the absence of an ambassador, what the Legislative Branch does is really of no matter since they cannot directly effect appointments made by President Obama within the State Department.
     
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    + making noise to put Arms embargo on Turkey
    + making noise to expell Turkey from NATO
    + blocking appointments of Ambassador to Turkey

    All in the name of local politics and pleasing Israelian and Armenian Lobby groups.
    Obama saying to Erdogan, that it is increasingly difficult to push through arms sales through Congress
    White House denies Turkey arms ultimatum - Laura Rozen - POLITICO.com

    And user "hipeter" comes up with saying Turkey spends money on lobbying, whilst the kinds of him are biggest Lobby bitches the world has ever seen. Fucking Israelian Lewinsky.
     
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