RoccoR
Gold Member
P F Tinmore, et al,
Victim Implications Misleading.
To date and to the best of my knowledge, no actual Israeli Settlement exists outside Area "C." And none of these settlements are "illegal" as the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), as the sole representative of the Palestinian people, agreed to the creation of Area "C" and the establishment of the Palestinian Authority (PA).
No territory, occupied in 1967, was Arab Palestinian; being that it was annexed by Jordan under the West Bank Palestinian "Right of Self-Determination." And none of this same territory was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian.
And in 1988, after the Jordan cut all ties with the Arab Palestinians and politically abandon the West Bank, the only governmental authority on the ground with a working government was that of the Israeli.
For years (now decades) the Oscar Winning role of the Arab Palestinian playing the part of the perpetual victim, would have you believe that the Israelis acquired the West Bank by force from the Arab Palestinians. That would be false. Maybe the Jordanian Arab Legion attempted to defend the West Bank, but the Arab Palestinians did not (played no part in the active defense of the West Bank). You cannot name one single Arab Palestinian militia, civil defense element, or volunteer guards unit that participated in the defense of the West Bank. Nothing was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian by the Israelis.
By agreement, the if the PLO/PA have an issue with the establishment of the Settlements, they can express this discontent under the Permanent Status of Negotiations.
Just this month, Israeli Times Reporter Dov Lieber, wrote an news piece ( Amid talk of new peace pushes, Palestinians hold firm to preconditions ) on the Arab Palestinian --- PLO --- and the negotiations.
But just this week, after the White House orchestrated the intervention in the courts to nullify the monetary award in a jury verdict ordering $654M in damages to be paid by the PLO to Americans affected by Palestinian terror attacks. The White House justified the intervention by implying that such an award would threatened to destabilize the Palestinian government. A Palestinian Delegation met at the White House with staff to discuss the resumption of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations - to be arranged AFTER the elections so that the Democratic Party would not get the bad press for another collapse (after getting them off the hook for $654M).
It will not play well in the press and with the American public that the Second US Circuit Court of Appeals DISMISSED the case against two Palestinian groups, found liable to 11 American families for supporting terror activities, including the incident MS Achille Lauro off the coast of Egypt.
This really raises questions about the honesty and integrity of the Second Circuit; but, that's another discussion.
Most Respectfully,
R
Victim Implications Misleading.
To date and to the best of my knowledge, no actual Israeli Settlement exists outside Area "C." And none of these settlements are "illegal" as the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), as the sole representative of the Palestinian people, agreed to the creation of Area "C" and the establishment of the Palestinian Authority (PA).
No territory, occupied in 1967, was Arab Palestinian; being that it was annexed by Jordan under the West Bank Palestinian "Right of Self-Determination." And none of this same territory was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian.
And in 1988, after the Jordan cut all ties with the Arab Palestinians and politically abandon the West Bank, the only governmental authority on the ground with a working government was that of the Israeli.
For years (now decades) the Oscar Winning role of the Arab Palestinian playing the part of the perpetual victim, would have you believe that the Israelis acquired the West Bank by force from the Arab Palestinians. That would be false. Maybe the Jordanian Arab Legion attempted to defend the West Bank, but the Arab Palestinians did not (played no part in the active defense of the West Bank). You cannot name one single Arab Palestinian militia, civil defense element, or volunteer guards unit that participated in the defense of the West Bank. Nothing was taken by force from the Arab Palestinian by the Israelis.
(COMMENT)And it really does not matter. The goal of the so called peace process has never been peace. It is just political theatre to keep Palestinians off of Israel's voter rolls until it can complete it colonization of Palestine. Israel's hundred year old colonization continues with or without irrelevant peace talks.RoccoR said:That was an excuse. NO ONE actually expects the PLO/PA to open reasonable peace process with the Israelis.
By agreement, the if the PLO/PA have an issue with the establishment of the Settlements, they can express this discontent under the Permanent Status of Negotiations.
ARTICLE XVII Jurisdiction said:1. In accordance with the DOP, the jurisdiction of the Council will cover West Bank and Gaza Strip territory as a single territorial unit, except for:
a. issues that will be negotiated in the Permanent Status Negotiations: Jerusalem, settlements, specified military locations, Palestinian refugees, borders, foreign relations and Israelis; and
Just this month, Israeli Times Reporter Dov Lieber, wrote an news piece ( Amid talk of new peace pushes, Palestinians hold firm to preconditions ) on the Arab Palestinian --- PLO --- and the negotiations.
But just this week, after the White House orchestrated the intervention in the courts to nullify the monetary award in a jury verdict ordering $654M in damages to be paid by the PLO to Americans affected by Palestinian terror attacks. The White House justified the intervention by implying that such an award would threatened to destabilize the Palestinian government. A Palestinian Delegation met at the White House with staff to discuss the resumption of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations - to be arranged AFTER the elections so that the Democratic Party would not get the bad press for another collapse (after getting them off the hook for $654M).
ARTICLE XXI --- Settlement of Differences and Disputes said:Any difference relating to the application of this Agreement shall be referred to the appropriate coordination and cooperation mechanism established under this Agreement. The provisions of Article XV of the DOP shall apply to any such difference which is not settled through the appropriate coordination and cooperation mechanism, namely:
1. Disputes arising out of the application or interpretation of this Agreement or any related agreements pertaining to the interim period shall be settled through the Liaison Committee.
2. Disputes which cannot be settled by negotiations may be settled by a mechanism of conciliation to be agreed between the Parties.
3. The Parties may agree to submit to arbitration disputes relating to the interim period, which cannot be settled through conciliation. To this end, upon the agreement of both Parties, the Parties will establish an Arbitration Committee.
It will not play well in the press and with the American public that the Second US Circuit Court of Appeals DISMISSED the case against two Palestinian groups, found liable to 11 American families for supporting terror activities, including the incident MS Achille Lauro off the coast of Egypt.
This really raises questions about the honesty and integrity of the Second Circuit; but, that's another discussion.
Most Respectfully,
R
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