US breast cancer drug decision 'marks start of death panels'

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    US breast cancer drug decision 'marks start of death panels' - Telegraph

    This British HC system. Isn't our new HC Czar a big fan?
     
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    But, but, I thought rich people we're gonna' pay for all my health care?
     
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    Obama hates girls with cancer - Kanye West. lol
     
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    so one prefers insurance companies make the decisions? how many people are denied treatment by insurance companies....how many people need so called 'orphan drugs' that dont get them...it just goes on and on...
     
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    To review, Palin's "death panel" bullshit was:

    That has nothing to do with deciding whether a treatment is effective, it's a decision about whether an individual person is worth treating. That, of course, will never happen. And that isn't even close to what you're talking about here.

    The fact that people demonize things like paying for value is exactly why we have such an outrageously expensive system without appreciably better health outcomes than other developed nations. I would think this is obvious but apparently it needs to be pointed out: sentiments like "I want lower premiums!" and "insurance companies should cover every drug that does absolutely nothing!" ("two new studies have shown that the drug may not even extend life by an extra month") are incompatible.

    There is no "death panel" that's going to say to someone "we're no longer going to pay for any care for you." However, I would hope we start spending communal money (i.e. payouts from insurance pools) on effective treatments, yielding 1) better health outcomes and 2) cost savings.

    You can still buy useless drugs with your own money, no one will stop you.
     
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    Not if the company is put out of business. I imagine many drugs are very expensive in the beginning. Why would a company make an expensive drug if only a handful of people can afford it?
     
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    In that case, you can swing by the nearest candy store and pick up some Pez. That'll be about as effective at fighting your ailment as the hypothetical defunct company's wonder drugs.
     
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    Two studies show the drug was not effective in treating breast cancer and the panel rejected the drug for its lack of effectiveness and some UNNAMED quack adds the word "cost" and that settles it. The fact that the drug DOESN'T WORK no longer matters, all that matters is "death panels." :cuckoo:
    DEATH PANELS, be afraid, DEATH PANELS, Obama, DEATH PANELS.
     
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    so you are good with insurance and drug companies deciding who should live?
     
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    Can you tell me you honestly DON't see any correlation between the horrible abuses of the HMO's of yesteryear and this issue?

    It's a true saying about how forgetting the past dooms folks to repeating it...
     
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