Unz: Ukraine is finished and ended so badly might take NATO down as well

[CrusaderFrank]

Interesting article on the larger implication of the loss of the proxy war: we destroyed Ukraine and likely Germany as well in the process.

Biden (the Globalists) has been the absolute worst President in US History. The Brits aren't talking to us after the Unconditional Surrender of Afghanistan (USA) the French pulled their Ambassador (you forgot, right?) and now the Germans face another winter of burning wood to keep from freezing because Biden (the Globalists) destroyed the Nordstream Pipeline....why? What was the point??

Ukraine lost a generation of their best young men. It's the most vile, disgusting, despicable thing a government has done to their own people since 911.

Poland just told Ukraine "no Mas!"

The USA military is a FUCKING JOKE! A woke disaster of 44 4-Stars 145 3-Stars AND WE'RE OUT OF AMMO!!

The world needs Regime Change. It's enough!

NATO's Losing Proxy War In Ukraine | ZeroHedge

 

[ESay]

Wow. It seems your new slogan will be 'The US needs a Prigozhin!'

 

[Oddball]

Unz: Ukraine is finished and ended so badly might take NATO down as well

We should be so lucky.

 

[1srelluc]

Ukebros say:

 

[Donald H]

Interesting article on the larger implication of the loss of the proxy war: we destroyed Ukraine and likely Germany as well in the process.

Biden (the Globalists) has been the absolute worst President in US History. The Brits aren't talking to us after the Unconditional Surrender of Afghanistan (USA) the French pulled their Ambassador (you forgot, right?) and now the Germans face another winter of burning wood to keep from freezing because Biden (the Globalists) destroyed the Nordstream Pipeline.... why? What was the point??

Ukraine lost a generation of their best young men. It's the most vile, disgusting, despicable thing a government has done to their own people since 911.

Poland just told Ukraine "no Mas!"

The USA military is a FUCKING JOKE! A woke disaster of 44 4-Stars 145 3-Stars AND WE'RE OUT OF AMMO!!

The world needs Regime Change. It's enough!

NATO's Losing Proxy War In Ukraine | ZeroHedge

why? What was the point??

The point was to destroy Russia, to even the playing field when America faces the Brics alliance.

Now the Brics alliance becomes the super power of the 21st. century.

Are ya'all sure that you hate Biden for trying?

 

[Deadstick]

Interesting article on the larger implication of the loss of the proxy war: we destroyed Ukraine and likely Germany as well in the process.

Biden (the Globalists) has been the absolute worst President in US History. The Brits aren't talking to us after the Unconditional Surrender of Afghanistan (USA) the French pulled their Ambassador (you forgot, right?) and now the Germans face another winter of burning wood to keep from freezing because Biden (the Globalists) destroyed the Nordstream Pipeline....why? What was the point??

Ukraine lost a generation of their best young men. It's the most vile, disgusting, despicable thing a government has done to their own people since 911.

Poland just told Ukraine "no Mas!"

The USA military is a FUCKING JOKE! A woke disaster of 44 4-Stars 145 3-Stars AND WE'RE OUT OF AMMO!!

The world needs Regime Change. It's enough!

NATO's Losing Proxy War In Ukraine | ZeroHedge

One day soon the reality will hit them in the face like a wet Kipper, the Europeans are as much to blame as the US, if they can destroy their own economies on US orders they deserve all they are going to get.

 

[Deadstick]

Unz: Ukraine is finished and ended so badly might take NATO down as well

We should be so lucky.

The sooner that criminal gang is taken down the better.

 

[Deadstick]

Wow. It seems your new slogan will be 'The US needs a Prigozhin!'

Didn't they have one? the leader of the proud boys who will be some lunatics Bitch in prison for the next seventeen years.

 

[Ringo]

Wasn't it amazing how every Gov't in the West and Western media knew how corrupt Ukraine was, and that they had a real Nazi problem, but on Feb 24 2022, they all forgot and started saying that anybody who remembered was spreading russian propaganda...

 

[toomuchtime_]

The point was to destroy Russia, to even the playing field when America faces the Brics alliance.

Now the Brics alliance becomes the super power of the 21st. century.

Are ya'all sure that you hate Biden for trying?

There is no "BRICS" alliance coming to rescue Russia from the mess Putin has created for it. India and China are mor likely to go to war with each other than to go to war with the western nations both economies rely on.

The point was never to destroy Russia but to prevent Russia from trying to conquer its neighbors as it is doing now in Ukraine.

 

[Donald H]

There is no "BRICS" alliance coming to rescue Russia from the mess Putin has created for it. India and China are mor likely to go to war with each other than to go to war with the western nations both economies rely on.

The point was never to destroy Russia but to prevent Russia from trying to conquer its neighbors as it is doing now in Ukraine.

Always interested in hearing your POV!

Preventing Russia from conquering its neighbours has become a popular talking point! Some are suggesting that Russia will need to take all of the Ukraine in order to stop US attacks.

I don't really think that Russia wants 'all' of the Ukraine and the repair bills that come with it.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Always interested in hearing your POV!

Preventing Russia from conquering its neighbours has become a popular talking point! Some are suggesting that Russia will need to take all of the Ukraine in order to stop US attacks.

I don't really think that Russia wants 'all' of the Ukraine and the repair bills that come with it.

It is a safe bet that Russia doesn't want any of what's happening to it because of its foolish invasion of Ukraine, and if Putin were a competent leader Russia would have stayed within its own borders.

 

[the watcher]

The point was to destroy Russia, to even the playing field when America faces the Brics alliance.

And just who decided that was the goal? You?

 

[Donald H]

And just who decided that was the goal? You?

Those opposed to America's war against Russia decided that and I agree completely.
What's your reason for a war that has cost the Ukraine close to 500,000 of its military?

And too fwiw, the Ukraine ceasing to exist when this war is over.

 

[Silver Cat]

It is a safe bet that Russia doesn't want any of what's happening to it because of its foolish invasion of Ukraine, and if Putin were a competent leader Russia would have stayed within its own borders.

Actually, no. Russia can tolerate existence of more or less democratic and neutral Ukraine (as well as the USA can tolerate the existence of more or less friendly Canada and Mexico). America can not tolerate Soviet missiles in Cuba, Russian tanks in Canada or Chinese fleet in Hawaii, as well as Russia can't tolerate NATO bases in Ukraine.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Actually, no. Russia can tolerate existence of more or less democratic and neutral Ukraine (as well as the USA can tolerate the existence of more or less friendly Canada and Mexico). America can not tolerate Soviet missiles in Cuba, Russian tanks in Canada or Chinese fleet in Hawaii, as well as Russia can't tolerate NATO bases in Ukraine.

Such stupid bullshit. There is no rational scenario in which Ukraine's membership in NATO would lead to an attack on Russia, so there are no rational grounds on which Russia can object other than its imperialist ambitions.

 

[Silver Cat]

Such stupid bullshit. There is no rational scenario in which Ukraine's membership in NATO would lead to an attack on Russia, so there are no rational grounds on which Russia can object other than its imperialist ambitions.

Actually, the only reason why EU (and some corrupted US decision-makers) could want Ukraine in NATO - is to attack on Russia.
One can even say that support of Ukrainian Nazies was an attack on Russian people.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Actually, the only reason why EU (and some corrupted US decision-makers) could want Ukraine in NATO - is to attack on Russia.
One can even say that support of Ukrainian Nazies was an attack on Russian people.

As you have demonstrated, there is no rational basis for thinking that NATO membership for Ukraine would lead to an attack on Russia, so there is no rational basis for Russia to object to NATO membership for Ukraine other than Russia's imperialist ambitions.

 

[Silver Cat]

As you have demonstrated, there is no rational basis for thinking that NATO membership for Ukraine would lead to an attack on Russia, so there is no rational basis for Russia to object to NATO membership for Ukraine other than Russia's imperialist ambitions.

The fate of Serbia, Iraq and Libya (say nothing about those traditional European invasions in Russia and support of Chechen terrorists) is a pretty good reason to disbelieve any good intentions of NATO.

 

[toomuchtime_]

The fate of Serbia, Iraq and Libya (say nothing about those traditional European invasions in Russia and support of Chechen terrorists) is a pretty good reason to disbelieve any good intentions of NATO.

Again you demonstrate that there is no rational basis for thinking NATO membership for Ukraine would lead to an attack on Russia.