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The United States is holding back $800 million in aid to Pakistan, President Barack Obama's chief of staff said Sunday.

Appearing on ABC's "This Week," White House Chief of Staff William Daley confirmed a report in the New York Times that the aid was being withheld.

While Pakistan has "been an important ally in the fight on terrorism," Daley said, "now they've taken some steps that have given us reason to pause on some of the aid which we're giving to the military, and we're trying to work through that."

A spokesman for the Pakistani military told CNN the military was not informed of any such plan.

"Since we haven't received anything in writing," Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas said, "we will not comment on this matter."
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The New York Times, citing three unnamed senior U.S. officials, reported that altogether, "about $800 million in military aid and equipment, or over one-third of the more than $2 billion in annual American security assistance to Pakistan, could be affected."
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I don't know how you came to that convoluted conclusion. Pakistan has been barely surviving till now only because of US aid. Of course they also have three quality export products that bring in cash to the exchequer - Terrorists, mangoes and footballs.

US halting military aid to Pakistan for expulsions | TopNews

This action was inevitable given the obvious Pakistani treachery of hiding Osama while taking money to pretend to fight him.

This was long overdue in my view and I hope that the line is a clear one this time. Enough of giving money to those who plot your demise.
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US halting military aid to Pakistan for expulsions

The US is stopping millions of dollars in aid to the Pakistani military after the expulsion of over 100 US Special Forces trainers by Islamabad.
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US halting military aid to Pakistan for expulsions | TopNews

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The link shows it Jos.

They are halting them. That's not a lie.
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Granny says, "Good, now dey can use dat money to send out dem 2nd stimulus checks...

Pakistan says it doesn't need US military aid
July 11, 2011 - The $800 million in cuts in US aid to Pakistan are the strongest indicator yet of the deteriorating relationship between the two countries.

Pakistans Army said Monday that a US military aid cut worth some $800 million wont affect its ability to conduct combat operations. Analysts call the cuts the strongest indicator yet of the deteriorating nature of the relationship between the two countries and say it could cause the Pakistani military to retreat to a more hostile anti-US position. "The Army in the past, as well as at present, has conducted successful military operations using its own resources without any external support whatsoever, Army spokesman Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas, told the AFP. He added that the Army had not received any official correspondence from the US on the matter.

General Abbas's statement might be a stretch, but according to Ayesha Siddiqa, military analyst and author of Military Inc, the symbolism of the cut is likely to outweigh the operational significance, despite the fact that the cut would account for roughly 40 percent of the $2 billion in military assistance America gives Pakistan annually. Its an indicator of relations getting pushed further apart, she says, adding that with the cut the US appears to have called the Pakistanis militarys bluff on a recent statement attributed to Army chief General Kayani in which he said that US military aid to Pakistan would be better spent on civilian purposes.

What would suspending $800 million look like?

Some $300 million of the money that the US is suspending was set to go to Pakistan in the form of reimbursement to the Army for its deployment of troops along the Afghanistan border. Some of the money was also planned to go to Pakistan in the form of equipment, though when the country ordered more than 100 US military trainers to leave the country recently, it refused to accept equipment from the US, according to the New York Times Itll start a debate, lets see where it goes and how far the Americans want to take it, says Ms. Siddiqa, adding that a failure by the Pakistani military to comply with US demands to fight terror groups, especially the Haqqani network, more effectively could eventually lead to further cuts and even economic sanctions.

Pakistans military has been under immense domestic and international pressure in recent months, following the raid to kill Osama bin Laden and another US raid on a naval base in Karachi attributed which analysts attributed inside assistance. Last week, Adm. Mike Mullen became the first US official to publicly blame the killing of journalist Syed Saleem Shahzad on Pakistans government.

What happens to Pakistan's civilian government?
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US halting military aid to Pakistan for expulsions

The US is stopping millions of dollars in aid to the Pakistani military after the expulsion of over 100 US Special Forces trainers by Islamabad.
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US halting military aid to Pakistan for expulsions | TopNews

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Calling me a liar.

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Ropey said: ↑

Jos said: ↑

You left out part of the headline
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Calling me a liar.

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I don't mind being called a liar and sometimes I do, but this was withholding the truth.

And if you don't see that. Grow another head.
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Who's side are they really on?...

Majority of IEDs are traced to Pakistan
2 Oct.`11 WASHINGTON Pakistan is the source of explosives in the vast majority of makeshift bombs insurgents in Afghanistan planted this summer to attack U.S. troops, according to U.S. military commanders.

From June through August, U.S. troops detected or were hit by 5,088 improvised explosive devices (IEDs), the most for any three-month period since the war began in 2001. Those bombs killed 63 troops and wounded 1,234, Defense Department records show. More than 80% of the IEDs are homemade explosives using calcium ammonium nitrate fertilizer produced in Pakistan, said Navy Capt. Douglas Borrebach, deputy director for resources and requirements at the Pentagon's Joint IED Defeat Organization. "The border is a sieve," Borrebach said. "You can do your checkpoints, but that's not going to help stem the supply."

The military is working with the State Department, other U.S. agencies and Pakistan's government to prevent fertilizer from reaching the insurgents' bomb factories. The U.S. government increasingly has been blaming Pakistan for failing to corral insurgents. Two weeks ago, Adm. Michael Mullen, then the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the Haqqani terror network linked to attacks in Afghanistan had ties to Pakistan's spy agency. A Senate bill includes funds to train border guards and customs officials in Pakistan and Afghanistan. It also supports agricultural extension programs that encourage Pakistani farmers to use alternative fertilizers.

Sen. Robert Casey, D-Pa., met with top civilian and military leaders in Pakistan in August to urge them to stop the flow of bomb-making materials into Afghanistan. They promised to help, but did not reveal a sense of urgency, Casey told USA TODAY after the trip. Choking off the source of fertilizer is critical, Borrebach said. "How do we work with Pakistan to be able to reduce the amount of calcium ammonium nitrate coming across the border?" he said. "That's the key to this." Not necessarily, said Seth Jones, an expert on Afghanistan at the RAND Corp. who has advised the special operations forces there. "You could bang your head against a wall for eternity trying to keep ammonium nitrate from crossing the border," Jones said.

The Taliban and other insurgent groups operate out of a border region between Pakistan and Afghanistan, over which the Pakistani government has little control. Beefing up local security forces in Afghanistan, he said, shows more promise in defeating the IED problem. He pointed to areas of Kandahar province where homegrown security forces, assisted by the U.S. troops, had made life better for local citizens. They, in turn, rejected insurgents, sided with the security forces and pointed out bomb caches. The IED problems subsided, he said.

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Pakistan has been barely surviving till now only because of US aid
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I think that the current Paki regime is surviving because of US aid.

SAns that aid Paki will still be there, but the relationship between the USA and Paki might seriously go downhill.
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editec said: ↑

Pakistan has been barely surviving till now only because of US aid
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I think that the current Paki regime is surviving because of US aid.

SAns that aid Paki will still be there, but the relationship between the USA and Paki might seriously go downhill.
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You mean worse then their intel agency planning attacks on US bases in Afghanistan with the terrorists? Worse then that?

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