Turns out reading Miranda rights works fine after all

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    Times Square Case Prompts Raids in Northeast - WSJ.com

    Ahh the wonders of good ol' fashioned police work, without having to go outside the boundaries of the Constitution.

    "But wait", you ask, "didn't they read him his Miranda Rights? How can this be?"

    Once again, the right-wing extremists are wrong. But then, when aren't they?
     
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    These new arrests, plus the arrests in Pakistan that immediately followed the bombing, sure seem like the guy is talking to me.

    Anyone else have a different opinion?
     
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    I want to go on record right now and say that whenever I read something like the following:

    "Government officials say..." (In this case, that this terrorist is cooperating with prosecutors.)

    That I believe it completely. In fact, I trust the Government implicitly. I bet you do, too.
     
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    Whatever your suspicions may be, the aftermath of the event certainly strongly indicates that the Government is in fact telling the truth in this matter.

    A bevy of arrests like this soon afterwards almost certainly indicates suspect cooperation.
     
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    He was talking long before he was mirandized.
     
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    Joe the burglar gets caught. He gets arrested and gets his Miranda warnings. He says he understands them but "fuck no" he won't speak without a lawyer.

    Bob the Robber gets caught. HE gets arrested and gets his Miranda warnings. He says he
    understands them and fuck yeah, he'll be happy to talk to the arresting officers right away and knowingly waives his Miranda rights.

    That Bob the Robber was willing to do so is not an argument that giving Miranda warnings is never going to interfere with getting a statement.

    Now let's change it from a criminal law issue (like burglars and robbers) to terrorists.

    Abdul bin Kamelfucker gets caught and President Obama's idiot policy requires that he NOT be questioned at all until he gets advised of his "Miranda" rights. The Camel sucker thinks to himself, "Holy fucking Jin! These Americans are indeed fucked up!" He then declares, "I Affirm by Mohammed (mumbo jumbo) that I will not speak to you without my lawyer. Appoint one to me now Infidel scum!" No questioning of old Abdul, even though this bastard was caught with all the works for a massive truck-bomb ready to be detonated in lower Manhattan and solid evidence that it was just one of several which had been sent out on suicide missions that very day.

    Compare that with Fariq e Deeky, a low level al qaeda cell member caught in a suburb of Buffalo, NY. He has nothing of any appreciable value when caught. No bombs, no plans, no schematics, no nothing. But he gets the Miranda warnings and agrees to speak.

    Meanwhile dolts like Vastly Stupid LWC contend that since Fariq is willing to speak WITH Mirandas warnings, therefore Miranda warnings are perfectly ok.

    Doesn't help us get any intel from Abdul, though. But, the information we urgently NEED to obtain FROM Abdul is also crucial to saving maybe thousands of lives TODAY. Too bad. Fuck all the innocent civilians. Abdul has "rights."

    Freaking stupid libs still cannot wrap their little pinheads around the fact that Miranda warnings are designed with criminal law issues in mind, not national security matters in mind.
     
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    Having fun with your hypotheticals?

    Got any real proof at all to back up your theory?
     
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    so when our soilders capture terrorists in afganistan and iraq you want them read their rights.....
     
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    Give the Conservatives a break LWC

    They are just upset they didn't get to use electric clamps on his genitals
     
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    You remain absurd.

    If we Mirandized KSM instead of waterboarding that piece of shit, do you imagine he'd have shared the information he wished to withhold?

    You, and retards like you, point to AN example of a guy speaking (allegedly) even though he got some Miranda warnings (allegedly) and YOU (and retards like you) conclude that giving Mirandas doesn't impact anything.

    You are truly an ignoramus.
     

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