Trump’s Unwarranted Attacks on Freedom of the Press Denounced

[Sun Devil 92]

The OP is a lie.

Trump's attacks are not unwarrented...they are overdue.

He did not attack Freedom of the Press. Please show where he said we should revoke the 1st. I've not heard it.

He called the MSM what they are....suck jobs.

 

[Auld Phart]

Very fake news, petunia. And Trump's calling the losers out for their blatant bias. You're enemies of the state, just like the fake news snowflakes trying to smear him.

Just to put this to rest...if Trump were to call out all MSM as Fake News, his first target would be Fox News which is the largest, most consumed network.

Trump only attacks outlets and stories that show him in a bad light. Which exposes the fact that his comments are not critical of news stories and sources that are misrepresentative or false...but only on stories that show him in a negative light, regardless of the veracity of their claims. If I am incorrect, please link me to where Trump has denounced a news source as fake and all lies that displayed him a positive, yet false, light.

Trump only attacks outlets and stories that show him in a bad light

Like Obama did with Fox?

Got it.

 

[blackhawk]

When the majority of the news distorts and misleads the public like calling an executive order a Muslim ban when they know full well it isn't these media are being at best political activist pretending to be journalist at worst propagandist. As I stated on another thread calling the media enemies of the people does not serve the country but having media that can not or will not be fair and unbiased does not serve the country either.

If they are behaving as the enemy, then calling them the enemy is just facing the Truth.

That does seem to be the crux of the issue people acting like assholes getting upset about someone finally calling them assholes.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I love that we are having this conversation....finally.

Thank you President Trump.

1. Anyone who believes that our major news sources are not biased is simply ignorant.
2. Biased sources don't tell the whole story. They selectively tell or emphasize what they feel we need to know.
3. People are waking up to the fact that about 90% of what you read on the web is biased or out-and-out false.

I don't like Trump for many reasons.

I liked Bernie for many reasons (because he was pushing issues that required consideration in the public...that were not getting there).

Trump, intentionally or not....is doing just that.

If our press would wake up and become "better" due to this, great.

If not, then it is not great loss.

Nobody trusts them and it was because of Donald Trump.

It is not the government's job to control or interfere with the free speech of the press. The President represents the government. He has at his disposal the ability to challenge specific instances of unfair treatment by specific news sources with opposing facts and even opinion. That is not what he is doing. He is attempting to demonize the press with a broad brush without backing up his claims and attacks with factual data. It is exactly what authoritarian regimes do.

He hasn't interfered with anything.

He should be demonizing the press. Bush should have done it and so should have Obama.

It's time to wake people up to a good conversation about the press. We need it.

no way Obama would do that. THe press loved him and did nothing but spew propaganda for him.

Hell,barry had them under surveillance and they still kissed his half black ass!

 

[Missourian]

It is not the government's job to control or interfere with the free speech of the press. The President represents the government. He has at his disposal the ability to challenge specific instances of unfair treatment by specific news sources with opposing facts and even opinion. That is not what he is doing. He is attempting to demonize the press with a broad brush without backing up his claims and attacks with factual data. It is exactly what authoritarian regimes do.

What a boatload off bullshit.

The press isn't being controlled or interfered with. They are free to print anything they wish.

They are NOT free from any form criticism. When the press becomes the blatant and overt propaganda arm of the Democrat Party, they are RIPE for criticism.

Why are you attempting to stifle President Trump's 1st Amendment right to criticize the press?

When there's a law made that infringes on freedom of the press, get back to us...until then, suck it up and drive on.

 

[miketx]

‘Political analysts said there's a difference between criticizing the press and calling it "the enemy" -- a phrase authoritarian governments of the past have indeed used to de-legitimize political opponents and institutions.

"This is something that you hear tin-pot dictators say when they want to control all of the information," said Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, speaking on ABC's This Week.

Matt Mackowiak, a Texas-based Republican political consultant, said Trump is facing a "vigorously hostile press corps" that has low approval ratings of its own, and seems to be "competing to see who can be the first to cause his impeachment."

While Trump "is attacking a weak opponent that his base despises," Mackowiak added that the president needs to reach out to the broader public in order to get legislation passed. "The campaign is over," Mackowiak said. "It's time for governing and governing requires persuasion."

[…]

Nicole Renee Hemmer, assistant professor at the University of Virginia's Miller Center, said "the rhetoric is not yet cause for panic." But she said journalists need to push back and explain that "their work is a vital component of democratic governance and the system of checks and balances, especially given Donald Trump's autocratic tendencies."


Said Hemmer: "Trump has a tendency to blur the distinctions between himself, the government, and the people, more so than any modern president. And his wholesale attacks on the press soften the ground for anti-press action."’

McCain defends free press, raises specter of dictatorship from Trump's attacks

The problem, of course, is that Trump is ignorant of what constitutes sound, responsible governance – indeed, he’s completely incapable of governing at all.

Trumps attacks on the press are extremely warranted. I hope most of these shit stain media losers are placed in prison camps where they and most liberals belong.

 

[Iceweasel]

Very fake news, petunia. And Trump's calling the losers out for their blatant bias. You're enemies of the state, just like the fake news snowflakes trying to smear him.

Just to put this to rest...if Trump were to call out all MSM as Fake News, his first target would be Fox News which is the largest, most consumed network.

Trump only attacks outlets and stories that show him in a bad light. Which exposes the fact that his comments are not critical of news stories and sources that are misrepresentative or false...but only on stories that show him in a negative light, regardless of the veracity of their claims. If I am incorrect, please link me to where Trump has denounced a news source as fake and all lies that displayed him a positive, yet false, light.

Fox has the largest cable share and Trump didn't say all msm anyway. If you haven't seen any fake reporting though words can't help you.

Trump is fighting back but they do this to EVERY Republican. Bush was crucified daily, so was Reagan.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Look at the OP....right in line with the MSM.

The title of this thread is total crap.

C_Clayton_Jones is right in line with the MSL (Main Stream Liars).

 

[Missourian]

That is what Trump wants you to do, snowflake. Just follow along like the low information voter that you are.

It's a very frightening time for you liberals...losing control of the government, the EPA, the education system, and now the press. I totally understand why you feel a need to lash out. I forgive you.

 

[Auld Phart]

I love that we are having this conversation....finally.

Thank you President Trump.

1. Anyone who believes that our major news sources are not biased is simply ignorant.
2. Biased sources don't tell the whole story. They selectively tell or emphasize what they feel we need to know.
3. People are waking up to the fact that about 90% of what you read on the web is biased or out-and-out false.

I don't like Trump for many reasons.

I liked Bernie for many reasons (because he was pushing issues that required consideration in the public...that were not getting there).

Trump, intentionally or not....is doing just that.

If our press would wake up and become "better" due to this, great.

If not, then it is not great loss.

Nobody trusts them and it was because of Donald Trump.

It is not the government's job to control or interfere with the free speech of the press. The President represents the government. He has at his disposal the ability to challenge specific instances of unfair treatment by specific news sources with opposing facts and even opinion. That is not what he is doing. He is attempting to demonize the press with a broad brush without backing up his claims and attacks with factual data. It is exactly what authoritarian regimes do.

It is not the government's job to control or interfere with the free speech of the press

Which parts of the press has he shut down?

Couple of snowflakes couldn't ask questions?

Waaahhhhh

not interfering with free press, bud

 

[Dragonlady]

Very fake news, petunia. And Trump's calling the losers out for their blatant bias. You're enemies of the state, just like the fake news snowflakes trying to smear him.

That is what Trump wants you to do, snowflake. Just follow along like the low information voter that you are.

The OP's SOURCE description of the press fits to a T, the meaning of the word "enemy" and yet he attacks Trump for calling the press the enemy.


Trump is not the problem.


Trump is the solution, to a very sick political class.

Trump is a the solution? Trump and his lies are the problem. Trump wants you to believe everything he tells you. He's angry that people question his "alternative facts", or as regular folks call them "lies".

The pesky press keeps insisting he stop lying. If Trump stopped lying, the press wouldn't be talking about it. He's like the Wizard of Oz pulling his thunder and lightning levers and screaming "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!!".

Trump didn't get Intel to create 10,000 new jobs in Arizona. Intel is moving 3,000 manufacturing jobs at their old manufacturing plants around the company, to their new facility in Arizona. Eventually, the site can expand to 10,000 jobs, but at this point there are no new American jobs at this plant, just jobs which have been transferred from other states.

 

[Correll]

Very fake news, petunia. And Trump's calling the losers out for their blatant bias. You're enemies of the state, just like the fake news snowflakes trying to smear him.

That is what Trump wants you to do, snowflake. Just follow along like the low information voter that you are.

The OP's SOURCE description of the press fits to a T, the meaning of the word "enemy" and yet he attacks Trump for calling the press the enemy.


Trump is not the problem.


Trump is the solution, to a very sick political class.

Trump is a the solution? Trump and his lies are the problem. Trump wants you to believe everything he tells you. He's angry that people question his "alternative facts", or as regular folks call them "lies".

The pesky press keeps insisting he stop lying. If Trump stopped lying, the press wouldn't be talking about it. He's like the Wizard of Oz pulling his thunder and lightning levers and screaming "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!!".

Trump didn't get Intel to create 10,000 new jobs in Arizona. Intel is moving 3,000 manufacturing jobs at their old manufacturing plants around the company, to their new facility in Arizona. Eventually, the site can expand to 10,000 jobs, but at this point there are no new American jobs at this plant, just jobs which have been transferred from other states.

THe op's source verifies what Trump has said, ie that the Press is the enemy.

That was my point, that you did not respond to.

Are you attacking Trump for telling the Truth?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

I love that we are having this conversation....finally.

Thank you President Trump.

1. Anyone who believes that our major news sources are not biased is simply ignorant.
2. Biased sources don't tell the whole story. They selectively tell or emphasize what they feel we need to know.
3. People are waking up to the fact that about 90% of what you read on the web is biased or out-and-out false.

I don't like Trump for many reasons.

I liked Bernie for many reasons (because he was pushing issues that required consideration in the public...that were not getting there).

Trump, intentionally or not....is doing just that.

If our press would wake up and become "better" due to this, great.

If not, then it is not great loss.

Nobody trusts them and it was because of Donald Trump.

It is not the government's job to control or interfere with the free speech of the press. The President represents the government. He has at his disposal the ability to challenge specific instances of unfair treatment by specific news sources with opposing facts and even opinion. That is not what he is doing. He is attempting to demonize the press with a broad brush without backing up his claims and attacks with factual data. It is exactly what authoritarian regimes do.

It is not the government's job to control or interfere with the free speech of the press

Which parts of the press has he shut down?

Couple of snowflakes couldn't ask questions?

Waaahhhhh

not interfering with free press, bud

Lot's of reporters don't get to ask questions......

BTW: How long did HIllary go without a Presser ?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Very fake news, petunia. And Trump's calling the losers out for their blatant bias. You're enemies of the state, just like the fake news snowflakes trying to smear him.

That is what Trump wants you to do, snowflake. Just follow along like the low information voter that you are.

The OP's SOURCE description of the press fits to a T, the meaning of the word "enemy" and yet he attacks Trump for calling the press the enemy.


Trump is not the problem.


Trump is the solution, to a very sick political class.

Trump is a the solution? Trump and his lies are the problem. Trump wants you to believe everything he tells you. He's angry that people question his "alternative facts", or as regular folks call them "lies".

The pesky press keeps insisting he stop lying. If Trump stopped lying, the press wouldn't be talking about it. He's like the Wizard of Oz pulling his thunder and lightning levers and screaming "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!!".

Trump didn't get Intel to create 10,000 new jobs in Arizona. Intel is moving 3,000 manufacturing jobs at their old manufacturing plants around the company, to their new facility in Arizona. Eventually, the site can expand to 10,000 jobs, but at this point there are no new American jobs at this plant, just jobs which have been transferred from other states.

Please quote him saying he wanted us to believe everything he tells us.

If you are saying it is by default, then please don't tell me you think Hillary or President Obama felt any different about their lies.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Very fake news, petunia. And Trump's calling the losers out for their blatant bias. You're enemies of the state, just like the fake news snowflakes trying to smear him.

That is what Trump wants you to do, snowflake. Just follow along like the low information voter that you are.

The OP's SOURCE description of the press fits to a T, the meaning of the word "enemy" and yet he attacks Trump for calling the press the enemy.


Trump is not the problem.


Trump is the solution, to a very sick political class.

Trump is a the solution? Trump and his lies are the problem. Trump wants you to believe everything he tells you. He's angry that people question his "alternative facts", or as regular folks call them "lies".

The pesky press keeps insisting he stop lying. If Trump stopped lying, the press wouldn't be talking about it. He's like the Wizard of Oz pulling his thunder and lightning levers and screaming "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!!".

Trump didn't get Intel to create 10,000 new jobs in Arizona. Intel is moving 3,000 manufacturing jobs at their old manufacturing plants around the company, to their new facility in Arizona. Eventually, the site can expand to 10,000 jobs, but at this point there are no new American jobs at this plant, just jobs which have been transferred from other states.

That's good information.

You can quote facts and it is easy to show.

I don't blame them.

However, the whole Muslim Ban BS was just that....BS

 

[WaitingFor2020]

‘Political analysts said there's a difference between criticizing the press and calling it "the enemy" -- a phrase authoritarian governments of the past have indeed used to de-legitimize political opponents and institutions.

"This is something that you hear tin-pot dictators say when they want to control all of the information," said Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, speaking on ABC's This Week.

Matt Mackowiak, a Texas-based Republican political consultant, said Trump is facing a "vigorously hostile press corps" that has low approval ratings of its own, and seems to be "competing to see who can be the first to cause his impeachment."

While Trump "is attacking a weak opponent that his base despises," Mackowiak added that the president needs to reach out to the broader public in order to get legislation passed. "The campaign is over," Mackowiak said. "It's time for governing and governing requires persuasion."

[…]

Nicole Renee Hemmer, assistant professor at the University of Virginia's Miller Center, said "the rhetoric is not yet cause for panic." But she said journalists need to push back and explain that "their work is a vital component of democratic governance and the system of checks and balances, especially given Donald Trump's autocratic tendencies."


Said Hemmer: "Trump has a tendency to blur the distinctions between himself, the government, and the people, more so than any modern president. And his wholesale attacks on the press soften the ground for anti-press action."’

McCain defends free press, raises specter of dictatorship from Trump's attacks

The problem, of course, is that Trump is ignorant of what constitutes sound, responsible governance – indeed, he’s completely incapable of governing at all.

The Russians (or someone) has something really yuuuuuge on Trump, and he's railing against the media in advance of the release of this something. He's on a tear to discredit the press completely or as best possible so that when this hidden truth comes out, at least 40% of the American public won't believe. Bank on it.

 

[Markle]

Very fake news, petunia. And Trump's calling the losers out for their blatant bias. You're enemies of the state, just like the fake news snowflakes trying to smear him.

That is what Trump wants you to do, snowflake. Just follow along like the low information voter that you are.

You're describing petulant former President Barack Hussein Obama. Pride of the NO information voter.

 

[Never3ndr]

Very fake news, petunia. And Trump's calling the losers out for their blatant bias. You're enemies of the state, just like the fake news snowflakes trying to smear him.

Just to put this to rest...if Trump were to call out all MSM as Fake News, his first target would be Fox News which is the largest, most consumed network.

Trump only attacks outlets and stories that show him in a bad light. Which exposes the fact that his comments are not critical of news stories and sources that are misrepresentative or false...but only on stories that show him in a negative light, regardless of the veracity of their claims. If I am incorrect, please link me to where Trump has denounced a news source as fake and all lies that displayed him a positive, yet false, light.

Trump only attacks outlets and stories that show him in a bad light

Like Obama did with Fox?

Got it.

So, if Obama did it, it makes it okay? Did I say it was okay when Obama did it?

Also, still waiting for that link of Trump denouncing a news story that showed him in a positive light because it was false or misrepresentative.

 

[JoeMoma]

Nobody is attacking freedom of the Press. Trump is rightly calling them out on their bullshit and lies. Big difference.

Absolutely right, and the msm is still free to print or air whatever they wish. Trump is simply using his own freedom of speech to call them out.

 

[Auld Phart]

Very fake news, petunia. And Trump's calling the losers out for their blatant bias. You're enemies of the state, just like the fake news snowflakes trying to smear him.

Just to put this to rest...if Trump were to call out all MSM as Fake News, his first target would be Fox News which is the largest, most consumed network.

Trump only attacks outlets and stories that show him in a bad light. Which exposes the fact that his comments are not critical of news stories and sources that are misrepresentative or false...but only on stories that show him in a negative light, regardless of the veracity of their claims. If I am incorrect, please link me to where Trump has denounced a news source as fake and all lies that displayed him a positive, yet false, light.

Trump only attacks outlets and stories that show him in a bad light

Like Obama did with Fox?

Got it.

So, if Obama did it, it makes it okay? Did I say it was okay when Obama did it?

If you didn't, that makes you even more of a hypocrite