CDZ Trumps first 100 days

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    Looks good to me! I can only wonder how well it would have gone had he not had to fight obstructionist traitors at every turn?


    Trump's first 100 days

    ~Trans bathrooms died

    ~Obamacare dying

    ~ICE raids in "sanctuary cities"

    ~Removed regulations which will increase the number of jobs

    ~Cops are now safer

    ~Pipeline on the fast track

    ~TPP dying

    ~Hiring freeze on federal employees (military exempt)

    ~Gorsuch confirmed

    Go Trump!
     
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    Seems a bit optimistic.

    Trans bathrooms died. Is this what we have come to as your first accomplishment?

    Obamacare. Ug. This is rather scary. W/O a doubt the math needed tweaked. The last failure and the chance pre-existing condition rules will be changed really has my attention.

    I thought the ICE raids were regular happenings even under Obama and the media was blowing up the event to make Trump seem like a bad guy. If not, I have some threads you need to go update.

    How are cops safer? I am unfamiliar with this one.

    Is this the pipeline which carries six trains of oil a day we are talking about?

    TPP dying, NAFTA going strong. I'm not necessarily a fan of either. I have some old free trade posts you have to come back me in about the benefits of restricting free trade / free capitalism.

    Gorsuch was sure confirmed. He really does not seem like the worst fella would could have been nominated.
     
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    So glad to hear about all those pipeline jobs. When will they start? Odd that the first three phases were completed without even a noticeable effect on jobs in this country, but you seem to think the last little bit will have a big effect on employment.
     
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    The last mile is what provides most of the jobs.
     
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    You want to explain that? I worked on pipelines for several years, and that's not how it was. All the equipment they tie the line into has been built for years.
     
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    The remarks are the result of people who don't want to see America move forward.
     
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    But not the jobs created in new oil fields now that transport costs have declined.
     
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    We already had the fracking boom and bust. That line is for Canadian bitumen. It has no effect on domestic oil production. Wanna try again?
     
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    Oh, I have an answer here. First, anyone who claimed the stimulus did not create jobs can not claim this did or they are hypocritical.

    Second for the rest of us, upstream of the pipeline they can pump up to 470,000 barrels of oil a year for $7 per barrel less than before (Google's mid number train vs pipeline savings before construction is taken into account).

    So, I don't know where their break even line was, but if the oil well workers got sent home at $70 a barrel before, they get sent home at $63 a barrel now. Probably a decently big deal for pipeline workers.

    We can count railroad employees laid off vs pipeline employees hired sometime if we must.
     
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    Very few workers needed on an operating pipeline, unless it blows up. doubt the entire line between Canada and Texas needs more than a dozen controllers for the automated equipment, unless you want to count the ones who mow the grass on the right of way
     

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