Trump's Endgame Begins Now

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    Trump will now start moving to the center because he knows he is going to have to fight in a convention. Watch Mr. Deal make deals.
     
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    "You don't make deals with losers"....Art Of The Deal.
    And he will by voters be given a mandate. NO backing up and NO giving up.
     
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    “For a campaign frequently depicted as offering a rallying point for the white working class, the people volunteering to help Mr. Trump here are noteworthy for their ethnic diversity,” the report says. “They include a young woman who recently arrived from Peru; an immigrant from the Philippines; a 70-year-old Lakota Indian; a teenage son of Russian immigrants; a Mexican-American.”

    The group was also politically diverse, including lifelong Republicans as well as libertarians and even ex-Democrats. Several are immigrants or the children of immigrants, who emphasized they arrived in the U.S. legally, often taking many years to navigate the process and become full citizens. Besides concerns about immigration, many also hope Trump can improve the U.S. economy or shake up a stagnant Washington, D.C. political environment. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/14/u...e-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1 KKK MEME is fail
     
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    Nate Silver 11:48 PM

    "So far, Trump has won 37.1 percent of the votes throughout Republican primaries and caucuses. That percentage is up tonight after Trump had strong results in Florida and other states. And it will could climb further in subsequent states, especially with only three candidates remaining in the race. But the percentage is still on the low end by the standards of previous nominees. Since primaries became widespread in 1972, only George McGovern won his party’s nomination with a smaller share of the vote — just 25.3 percent, with McGovern winning by taking advantage of delegate rules that he had helped to write." - fivethirtyeight.com


    NOMINEE.....YEAR ........ PARTY ........ POPULAR VOTE SHARE
    Reagan*........1984......Republicans..........98.8%
    Bush* ........ 2004 ........ Republicans ........ 98.1
    Clinton* ........ 1996 ........ Democrats ........ 89.0
    Obama* ........ 2012 ........ Democrats ........ 88.9
    Nixon* ........ 1972 ........ Republicans ........86.9
    Gore ........ 2000 ........ Democrats ........ 75.4
    Bush* ........ 1992 ........ Republicans ........ 72.8
    Bush ........1988 ........ Republicans ........ 67.9
    Bush ........ 2000 ........ Republicans ........ 62.0
    Kerry ........ 2004 ........ Democrats ........ 60.1
    Reagan ........ 1980 ........ Republicans ........ 59.8
    Dole ........ 1996 ........ Republicans ........ 58.8
    Clinton ........ 2016 ........ Democrats ........ 57.8
    Ford* ........ 1976 ........ Republicans ........ 53.3
    Romney ........ 2012 ........ Republicans ........ 52.1
    Clinton ........ 1992 ........ Democrats ........ 52.0
    Carter* ........ 1980........ Democrats........ 51.1
    Obama ........ 2008 ........ Democrats ........ 47.3
    McCain ........ 2008 ........Republicans ........ 47.3
    Dukakis ........ 1988 ........ Democrats ........42.4
    Carter ........ 1976 ........ Democrats ........40.2
    Mondale ........ 1984 ........Democrats ........ 38.3
    Trump ........ 2016........ Republicans ........ 37.1
    McGovern ........1972 ........ Democrats ........ 25.3
    Which nominees produced consensus?

    Asterisks indicate incumbents

    Source: The Green Papers, Wikipedia​

     
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    "Trump's Endgame Begins Now"

    And that game will indeed come to an end this November when he loses the GE.
     
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    Using chess terminology I would say the GOP finds itself in "zugzwang" a situation in which the obligation to make a move in one's turn is a serious, often decisive, disadvantage. The GOP must select Trump or someone else from the remaining field [Cruz/Kasich] or a "wildcard" [Paul Ryan etc ]....either move will put the GOP at a disadvantage. If the latter move is made an an "establishment" candidate emerges it will fracture the GOP into two camps.

    If Trump Emerges
    Trump is unlikely to be as effective in "branding" Hillary Clinton as he was and has been at branding his GOP opponents as "loser, weak, little" etc. For one thing forewarned is forearmed for another Hillary has been in the spotlight and in the crucible of GOP partisan attacks thus she has developed "antibodies" or some limited immunity to certain "branding" attacks. Yet another factor is that 10 percent of the general election voters are not thinking that Slavery was better for the US as was the case in the primary [I use 10% on the basis that Trump has the support of about half the GOP voters and of that half 20 % think Emancipation was wrong]

    I liken Trump GOP Primary success to the use of the "wildcat" play some years back in the NFL which caught the New England Pats of all teams flat footed and resulted in the Miami Dolphins unexpected victory. Since that time though it became increasingly ineffective as defenses figured out how to defend against this wrinkle in strategy.

    I think a version of the "Swiftboating" attacks launched on Kerry will be used on Trump under the Rove doctrine of "use the opponents strong point against him".
    Under this doctrine Kerry's service was used successfully against him by a series of surrogate attacks funded by the Bush people.. The Trump business judgement his temperament his "tell like it is" image will be used against him ... If these attacks are sharp enough and aimed purposefully at his ego it could unhinge him in public outbursts ...



    Having said all that ...Trump is very dangerous and one cannot overestimate how gullible and uninformed/misinformed the US voting population is at this time ...
     
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    The public is no more or less gullible when they voted Obama in. This democratic process is a means by which the public becomes more seasoned and less gullible. As you personally may feel the public needs more guidance, the public has a mind of its own and is very capable of choosing who they wish to lead them.
     
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    Bobby Fischer went nuts later in life. That much they have in common.
     
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    If the "end game" involves healing the GOP that is a very hard trick to pull off since the person most responsible for it's destruction is the last man standing. Sort of like relying on the arsonist that burned your house down to re-build it for you.

    The GOP has to make a choice. Either screw the Trump supporters at the convention and rip the band-aid off at one time letting the chips fall where they may. Or nominate Trump into near certain defeat against HRC. If she avoids playing Trump's game and other faux paxes, she wins easily. The GE electorate can't stand the man and the electoral math is too damning to the GOP. Of course a 3rd way it may play out is that he wins; and that may be the most devestating of all for the GOP. It would be like a 4 year long train wreck with idiotic policy and moronic idea after mornoic idea getting approved. The only real winners in that scenrio are the Jimmy Kimmels and Jimmy Fallons of the world. Leno still does his bit in Vegas; we know who he is supporting.
     

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