Porter Rockwell
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In order to do what you want you'd have to repeal the 14th amendment. What is your realistic method of accomplishing that?We will never totally control our border or our immigration system, so the best we can hope for is a better system that will allow us to screen who we grant the great privilege of coming into our country. Hell, half the people in the world would love to come here so there is a big talent pool. That's why we should only be admitting the best and brightest. That means highly educated, first and foremost, due to the changing nature of our future employment needs. So how do we achieve that? First of all, we need congress to close the loopholes that Democrats and neocons have created to promote these refugee and illegal alien invasions. The last thing we need, especially in light of the fact that we are 22 trillion in debt, is to add millions of uneducated, dirt poor liabilities to our country. We should also adopt a strict everify system and apply it to all employment, voting and government assistance. We need the wall, not because it's the be all end all, but because it imposes a degree of control over people who obviously don't respect our laws. We also need a better visa tracking system. But one of our biggest obstacles is that the vested interests, the establishment, have bought off the Democratic party, the neocons and the media and education cartels. As a result, trying to have a meaningful conversation with those bigots will never get you anywhere but vilified in the next news cycle or campus gathering. There, my friend, I briefly explained it to you, not that I think you'll listen.We have no idea who are in these caravans. There could be Taliban, MS13, drug cartel operatives, teen aged prostitutes, gang members or even Chinese and Russian operatives. Chances are, there is an assortment of all those categories. We also understand that Democrats are in favor of letting each and every one of them in here regardless. The main problem is that most Democratic constituents are monkey see monkey do followers of anything their leaders tell them. So when the invaders are actually favored by Democrats over their country and President, It leaves Trump no alternative but to shut down the border. He'll have everyone's attention when these caravans end up stranded in all of Mexico's border towns. Viva Trump.
If I agreed with your assessment, we'd both be wrong; however, I do have some things you might be able to help me out with.
Muslims have declared war on us whether we believe it or not; agree or not. The Mexican government has printed comic books in the past showing their citizenry how to avoid immigration officials. On and on I could go.
So, no matter what you propose, do you not agree you STILL would not really know who is coming in? If a country is willing to teach its citizenry how to avoid contact with immigration officials during an improper entry attempt, do you think they are going to tell you who the good guys and bad guys are?
Same question for those countries that have declared war against us? We will never totally control our border or our immigration system, so the best we can hope for is a better system that will allow us to screen who we grant the great privilege of coming to our country. Half the people in the world would love to come here so we should only be taking the best, based on how much we need what they can bring to the table. So how do we achieve that? First of all, we need congress to close the loopholes that allowed, if not encouraged, these refugee and illegal immigrant invasions.
It's bad enough that the globalists are in violation of the Constitution by upholding Trump's tyrannical actions, but you have failed to tell me what good it does to presume people guilty, then ask a liar to tell you whether that foreigner is a good or a bad one. Can you explain without insults or flaming?
For all your ranting, you are promoting the very same, exact socialist solutions that the Democrats proposed in the 1980s and 1990s.
Much of what you propose is complete and utter nonsense. Again, I ask, how in the Hell are you going to screen people when the governments you will be relying on will LIE to you?
Insofar as our 22 Trillion Dollar debt, that is YOUR fault. YOUR silly ass proposals caused much of that debt. The debt don't have squat to do with foreigners. It is dumbasses in America passing Orwellian infringements on privacy that, in turn, created a pretext for maintaining the 16th Amendment (which was illegally ratified.) News flash: BEFORE the wallists started the wall worship thing, the patriot movement, for lack of a more descriptive adjective, were poised to force America to seriously take a look at the income tax and get rid of it (you know the Republicans did pass that into law and the income tax mirrors a plank from the Communist Manifesto.
Today, you have really really dumb ass people thinking we can reserve spots for "only the brightest..." You mean like Nidal Hasan's family??? Or how about Omar Mateen's family? You're so screwed up that YOU will never understand - NOBODY SHOULD HAVE TO BECOME A CITIZEN IN ORDER TO COME HERE, DO BUSINESS, AND ENGAGE IN OTHERWISE LAWFUL ACTIVITIES.
Put Americans back to work, REPEAL all that background check, National ID, womb to the tomb monitoring bullshit, quite handing out citizenship like it's candy. Right now, I'm counting TWELVE current federal legislators who came from foreign countries. ALL of them are Democrats. Is THAT your idea of the world's brightest? Hell, they're taking over "legally" as the wallist morons slang is used.
In 116th Congress, at least 13% of lawmakers are immigrants or the children of immigrants
Yeah, let's give America over to the third world. Now THAT sounds like a plan. NOT.
Resist it; give it no credibility; expose it; challenge it with technical court challenges.
PRIOR to 9 / 11 the patriot community made many inroads to fighting the 14th Amendment. They proved the 14th Amendment created two classes of citizenship. Preamble Citizens had their unalienable Rights intact while 14th Amendment citizens only had privileges and immunities to be doled out by the government.
We were winning this before 9 / 11. AFTER 9 / 11 the wallists began demanding National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify. That gave a pretext to keep the Socialist Surveillance Number - ooops... "Social Security Number" and prop up the illegal income tax, which was under fire by the patriot community as well. It pushed ALL of us under 14th Amendment jurisdiction. IF the wallists had not killed the FAIR Tax , there was about to be one Hell of a fight in Congress over the 16th Amendment.
Today, the wallists have taken the wins racked up by constitutionalists over a 30 year period. So, your answer is, we have to begin retracing the past and reclaiming our Rights. It's just that now you have to up the ante. Here is how change is generally accomplished:
How do we effect change?
You may think that there is only one way of doing things the way you've been programmed to think. That link is a few years old, but still relevant and the best blueprint. The civil rights movement (sic) and those who wanted to legalize pot used some of those strategies. Where are they today?