Trump Saved Factories for Carrier, Apple, and Others, Jobs Go to Robots

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from: Trump May Bring Home Apple, But He Can't Lick Robots


JED GRAHAM 3/17/2017

President Trump has visions of a massive Apple (AAPL) factory opening in the U.S. to churn out the latest iPhone. The idea is not completely far-fetched, but one thing seems clear: If it happens, most of the new jobs will go to robots.

Even in lower-cost China, Foxconn, which assembles the iPhone there, reportedly replaced 60,000 workers with robots at one facility. That's more than half the facility's workforce. Foxconn says it is adding 10,000 "Foxbots" per year...


...Trump has vowed to rewrite or walk away from trade deals and cut corporate tax rates to level the playing field for U.S. companies. He told Congress on Feb. 28 that he'll "bring back millions of jobs."...


...an automotive industry welder earned about $25 an hour, including benefits, while a robot could do the job for $8 an hour, including installation, maintenance and operating costs. The gap is expected to widen sharply as technology improves...


...Trump relentlessly bashed air conditioning company Carrier during the campaign for its plan to close an Indiana factory ... ... is getting $7 million in tax incentives from Indiana to stay, said it would invest $16 million to automate the factory "to drive the cost down."...


...Foxconn said in January that it's mulling a $7 billion highly automated factory for making displays


...maker of athletic shoes, which has long done its labor-intensive manufacturing out of China, Indonesia and Vietnam, last year piloted what it's calling a Speedfactory in Germany, making shoes almost entirely by robots...


...Nike (NKE), another ... ...Dow industrials component, and Under Armour (UAA) are both developing strategies for manufacturing in the U.S., close to their customers. It's a safe bet that robots will be doing most of the work...


...auto industry has been the biggest adopter of robotics...

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Not to worry, the robots will all be "Made in U.S.A."
 
They better have enough mechanics to keep those machines running...I saw first hand how much they require and its constant maintenance
 
I keep telling people, unless you lower the cost of labor and regulations, it won't matter if you bring the factory back to the US or not. You have got to make it profitable to hire people, or you won't get people hired. That's all there is to it.
 
Making the robots here and achieving scale and scope is highly important. If the low cost robots come from the US so will the engineers and mechanics.
 
But the other side of the coin when you figure in not just robots but additive fabs and commercial rocket ships just to mention the high points Trump's de facto VAT to protect US jobs might be a mistake. If the national debt starts declining we could end up with Japanese style interest rates on bonds.
 
But the other side of the coin when you figure in not just robots but additive fabs and commercial rocket ships just to mention the high points Trump's de facto VAT to protect US jobs might be a mistake. If the national debt starts declining we could end up with Japanese style interest rates on bonds.

Why would that be bad?

If the national debt goes down, what exactly is the bad side of this?

And why would we care if we end up with Japanese style interest rates?
 
the sense of urgency to get rid of the national debt will decline

There is no sense of urgency at all. I run into people who say "it's already great than GDP now, and nothing happened".

I haven't been able to detect a sense of urgency, or even a feeling of need to pay down the debt at all, let alone urgency.
 

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