Trump And Clinton Supporters Find Common Ground On Background Checks For Guns

[Lakhota]

But on other gun policy questions, the gaps keep widening.

When it comes to gun control and the Second Amendment, Democrats and Republicans are deeply divided except for a few safety measures such as background checks on gun sales.

An overwhelming majority of voters — 83 percent — favor mandatory background checks on private sales and at gun shows, according to data released Friday by the Pew Research Center. Among Clinton supporters, 90 percent support background checks, and 75 percent of Trump supporters told pollsters they agree.

That’s not exactly a surprise to researchers. Expanding background checks has consistently registered wide support for several years, Pew said in a statement.

There was also broad consensus that people with mental illness or who are on federal no-fly or other watch lists should be prevented from purchasing guns.

Pew reported that 82 percent of Trump supporters and 83 percent of Clinton supporters who took the survey earlier this month approved of prohibiting gun sales to people who are mentally ill. People on the no-fly list or possible terrorist lists shouldn’t be able to buy guns either, according to 80 percent of Clinton supporters and 72 percent of Trump supporters. Libertarians, however, have opposed outright banning sales to people on the no-fly and terror watch lists because those databases are too broad, they say.

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That sounds good to me. I would also ad domestic abusers to the list.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

But on other gun policy questions, the gaps keep widening.

When it comes to gun control and the Second Amendment, Democrats and Republicans are deeply divided except for a few safety measures such as background checks on gun sales.

We need to stop giving any credence to anyone who claims that the motives behind gun control have anything to do with “safety”. It's a lie, and everyone knows that it's a lie, and those who persist in repeating it need to be condemned as the dishonest, criminal-loving scumbags that they are.

 

[Andylusion]

But on other gun policy questions, the gaps keep widening.

When it comes to gun control and the Second Amendment, Democrats and Republicans are deeply divided except for a few safety measures such as background checks on gun sales.

An overwhelming majority of voters — 83 percent — favor mandatory background checks on private sales and at gun shows, according to data released Friday by the Pew Research Center. Among Clinton supporters, 90 percent support background checks, and 75 percent of Trump supporters told pollsters they agree.

That’s not exactly a surprise to researchers. Expanding background checks has consistently registered wide support for several years, Pew said in a statement.

There was also broad consensus that people with mental illness or who are on federal no-fly or other watch lists should be prevented from purchasing guns.

Pew reported that 82 percent of Trump supporters and 83 percent of Clinton supporters who took the survey earlier this month approved of prohibiting gun sales to people who are mentally ill. People on the no-fly list or possible terrorist lists shouldn’t be able to buy guns either, according to 80 percent of Clinton supporters and 72 percent of Trump supporters. Libertarians, however, have opposed outright banning sales to people on the no-fly and terror watch lists because those databases are too broad, they say.

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That sounds good to me. I would also ad domestic abusers to the list.

A relative of mine bought his gun at a road side rest stop.

Do tell, how exactly would your asinine background check, be enforced? Quite frankly, I know several places where if I had the money, I could get a gun, in just 30 minutes. Now unless you plan to institute universal nation wide, big brother cameras, or unlimited polices officers..... your dumb background checks, won't do jack.

Even if you did somehow manage to figure out how to do it, most guns used in crime, are not legally purchased anyway. Smugglers, gangs, illegal dealers. People that don't follow the existing laws, as they are right now. In your mythic world, how would the 'new background check law' prevent people who don't follow hundreds of existing laws, be more effective?

(Left-wing idiot Utopia theory)
"Hey Joey, I was going to selling this gun violating 325 gun laws, but this new law is just too much. 326 is just too many to violate. I have to close up my gun smuggling racket, and start working as a plumber now"

 

[yiostheoy]

I don't think background checks have accomplished anything so far.

All the wacko mass shooters have passed background checks or gotten their guns some other way.

All the street hoodies have gotten their guns on the streets.

 

[Lakhota]

Denying that universal background checks and no gun sales to the mentally ill and domestic abusers wouldn't save lives is nonsense. Speed limits don't prevent all speeding, either.

 

[Grandma]

Gun shows do not require background checks.

So someone can go to a gun show and buy a truckload of guns.

If that loophole is closed, the guy buying a truckload of guns has a problem.

Yes, he can start buying them illegally.

But that's expensive, the truckload is reduced to a trunkload.

Except selling them illegally is harder too. Gun dealers would have to explain missing inventory, right?

So the illegal gun sales would likely be stolen guns.

That were registered.

And had their serial numbers recorded.

Which would drive illegal gun prices even higher.

A trunkload would be reduced 1 or 2.

Reducing a truckload of guns in the wrong hands to 1 or 2 is very much a move in the right direction, regardless of what the No Math Abilities gun nuts say.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Denying that universal background checks and no gun sales to the mentally ill and domestic abusers wouldn't save lives is nonsense. Speed limits don't prevent all speeding, either.

And gun laws don't stop criminals from obtaining firearms and killing people with them. This is a case where gun laws won't work. Ever.

 

[eflatminor]

What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you get? Molon Labe asshole.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Gun shows do not require background checks.

So someone can go to a gun show and buy a truckload of guns.

Exaggerate much? When have you ever seen someone buying "a truckload of guns" at a gun show?

If that loophole is closed, the guy buying a truckload of guns has a problem.

Yet I have never heard of a guy buying a truckload of guns at a gun show. You are playing on a scenario that has a zero chance of happening.

So the illegal gun sales would likely be stolen guns.

That were registered.

You really oughtta stop making stand alone predictions and back them up.

A trunkload would be reduced 1 or 2.

Reducing a truckload of guns in the wrong hands to 1 or 2 is very much a move in the right direction, regardless of what the No Math Abilities gun nuts say.

And what were you getting at with this?

 

[eflatminor]

Libertarians, however, have opposed outright banning sales to people on the no-fly and terror watch lists because those databases are too broad, they say.

No shit Sherlock. Tell me, any other fundamental rights you wish to deny citizens because they're on a secret government list?

How about this one: No one on the dole gets to express they're opinion on politics.

Deal?

 

[2aguy]

But on other gun policy questions, the gaps keep widening.

When it comes to gun control and the Second Amendment, Democrats and Republicans are deeply divided except for a few safety measures such as background checks on gun sales.

An overwhelming majority of voters — 83 percent — favor mandatory background checks on private sales and at gun shows, according to data released Friday by the Pew Research Center. Among Clinton supporters, 90 percent support background checks, and 75 percent of Trump supporters told pollsters they agree.

That’s not exactly a surprise to researchers. Expanding background checks has consistently registered wide support for several years, Pew said in a statement.

There was also broad consensus that people with mental illness or who are on federal no-fly or other watch lists should be prevented from purchasing guns.

Pew reported that 82 percent of Trump supporters and 83 percent of Clinton supporters who took the survey earlier this month approved of prohibiting gun sales to people who are mentally ill. People on the no-fly list or possible terrorist lists shouldn’t be able to buy guns either, according to 80 percent of Clinton supporters and 72 percent of Trump supporters. Libertarians, however, have opposed outright banning sales to people on the no-fly and terror watch lists because those databases are too broad, they say.

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That sounds good to me. I would also ad domestic abusers to the list.

Moron.......liars are polling the uninformed and coming out with the answers they want on background checks.

Tell me oh genius.......how are universal background checks different from current, federally mandated background checks at gun stores.......?

Criminals use people with clean records to buy their guns at gun stores, because they can pass the current, federally mandated background checks......

So if a criminal wants a gun through a private seller, and you morons push through background checks for private sales...they will use the same straw buyer to buy the gun from the private seller...making your poll just stupid......

And tell me....did they tell the uninformed people that they polled that universal background checks will require people who loan guns to friends at a range to undergo a background check...or be in legal peril up to a felony...for an activity that was never before illegal?

Or do they realize that they now put in jeopardy gun safety classes and firearm instruction...since they will now require background checks to let students handle unloaded guns in the class?

Do those uninformed people realize all the intended complications that universal background checks will create.....?

Or that the only reason that the anti gunners want background checks is to get gun registration...?

Liars polling the uninformed is only impressive to asswipes like you who have to lie to people to get their way......

 

[TemplarKormac]

An overwhelming majority of voters — 83 percent — favor mandatory background checks on private sales and at gun shows, according to data released Friday by the Pew Research Center. Among Clinton supporters, 90 percent support background checks, and 75 percent of Trump supporters told pollsters they agree.

And out of the hundreds of thousands of people who get their guns at a gun show, just how many of them have immediately after gone out and killed someone with their newly purchased gun?

Lets see statistics that show that any gun or weapon used by a mass murderer was purchased at a gun show. In short, statistics that show how the weapon was obtained by the killer before he used it.

This spin is ridiculous.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Criminals use people with clean records to buy their guns at gun stores, because they can pass the current, federally mandated background checks......

So if a criminal wants a gun through a private seller, and you morons push through background checks for private sales...they will use the same straw buyer to buy the gun from the private seller...making your poll just stupid......

Someone with a clean record can posses criminal intent, and there's no way to read the mind of that person as he signs the papers and walks away with the gun. Lakhota can't seem to grasp that.

 

[2aguy]

Denying that universal background checks and no gun sales to the mentally ill and domestic abusers wouldn't save lives is nonsense. Speed limits don't prevent all speeding, either.

We haven't denied anything...we have shown you how criminals actually make your stupid new law useless.....and how mass public shooters pass your background checks with flying colors....

Moron.....the Orlando shooter, a muslim terrorist whose father supports hilary clinton..........passed 3 background checks, 10 months of intensive FBI investigation, 3 interviews with trained FBI interrogators and was approached by an undercover FBI agent......and the FBI signed off on him being an okay guy......then he murdered 49 gay men.......

So please...tell us again about these magical background checks....

 

[2aguy]

Gun shows do not require background checks.

So someone can go to a gun show and buy a truckload of guns.

If that loophole is closed, the guy buying a truckload of guns has a problem.

Yes, he can start buying them illegally.

But that's expensive, the truckload is reduced to a trunkload.

Except selling them illegally is harder too. Gun dealers would have to explain missing inventory, right?

So the illegal gun sales would likely be stolen guns.

That were registered.

And had their serial numbers recorded.

Which would drive illegal gun prices even higher.

A trunkload would be reduced 1 or 2.

Reducing a truckload of guns in the wrong hands to 1 or 2 is very much a move in the right direction, regardless of what the No Math Abilities gun nuts say.

So the illegal gun sales would likely be stolen guns.

That were registered.

And had their serial numbers recorded.

Which would drive illegal gun prices even higher.

You guys always say this stuff as if it actually means something....why on earth would serial numbers matter to a 15 year old gang banger shooting his rival in the hood? What fucking difference does it make to him since he got the gun illegally, and can't own, or carry the gun legally.....you think he is going to get weak kneed about the gun having numbers on it....

Do you guys even spend a few brain cells on what you post?

 

[Lakhota]

Denying that universal background checks and no gun sales to the mentally ill and domestic abusers wouldn't save lives is nonsense. Speed limits don't prevent all speeding, either.

We haven't denied anything...we have shown you how criminals actually make your stupid new law useless.....and how mass public shooters pass your background checks with flying colors....

Moron.....the Orlando shooter, a muslim terrorist whose father supports hilary clinton..........passed 3 background checks, 10 months of intensive FBI investigation, 3 interviews with trained FBI interrogators and was approached by an undercover FBI agent......and the FBI signed off on him being an okay guy......then he murdered 49 gay men.......

So please...tell us again about these magical background checks....

You're just pissing in the wind against polls that confirm what people want - including NRA members. It will happen...

 

[2aguy]

Criminals use people with clean records to buy their guns at gun stores, because they can pass the current, federally mandated background checks......

So if a criminal wants a gun through a private seller, and you morons push through background checks for private sales...they will use the same straw buyer to buy the gun from the private seller...making your poll just stupid......

Someone with a clean record can posses criminal intent, and there's no way to read the mind of that person as he signs the papers and walks away with the gun. Lakhota can't seem to grasp that.

I think he can.....he just doesn't care......they want universal background checks so they can get gun registration...then they can wait for the next mass shooting and the Supreme Court if hilary gets elected and start banning guns.....

 

[2aguy]

Denying that universal background checks and no gun sales to the mentally ill and domestic abusers wouldn't save lives is nonsense. Speed limits don't prevent all speeding, either.

We haven't denied anything...we have shown you how criminals actually make your stupid new law useless.....and how mass public shooters pass your background checks with flying colors....

Moron.....the Orlando shooter, a muslim terrorist whose father supports hilary clinton..........passed 3 background checks, 10 months of intensive FBI investigation, 3 interviews with trained FBI interrogators and was approached by an undercover FBI agent......and the FBI signed off on him being an okay guy......then he murdered 49 gay men.......

So please...tell us again about these magical background checks....

You're just pissing in the wind against polls that confirm what people want - including NRA members. It will happen...

No....I am stating the reality....you guys lie to the people who are being polled, you don't ask real questions....and then the uninformed people who don't know the issue answer with the answer that sounds reasonable....and you can bet the Germans thought that putting yellow stars on Jews didn't sound bad either......after all...they were just yellow stars...right?

 

[eflatminor]

Anyone notice this stone age fuck lacks the fundamental ability to articulate his own thoughts in support of his twisted point of view? All we get "This is what Progressives think...I think so too" statements. There isn't an original thought in its head, clearly dulled from decades of living off the labor of others.

 

[eflatminor]

Denying that universal background checks and no gun sales to the mentally ill and domestic abusers wouldn't save lives is nonsense. Speed limits don't prevent all speeding, either.

Hey, dumbshit, nobody gives a shit if speed limits prevent "speeding". What matters is if they save lives. That answer is no.

33 states raised their speed limits immediately after the repeal of the mandatory federal speed limit, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration reported the traffic death rate dropped to a record low level in 1997. Moreover, the average fatality rate even fell in the states that raised their speed limits.

Speed Doesn't Kill: The Repeal of the 55-MPH Speed Limit

Is your Paleolithic brain at all capable of forming an opinion based on result rather than intentions?

Of course not.