Trade Deficit with Mexico Hits All-Time High

[Uncensored2008]

BTW, I saw a graphic a few days ago estimating that China is now ~30% more expensive as a manufacturing economy than Mexico. That’s mostly due to the rise of labor costs in China.

Mostly due to transportation costs. The Achilles heel of China has always been logistics - it's the other side of the globe. Mexico is next door.

You make some good points. China may be on “the other side of the globe” but the U.S. considers itself “global policeman,” and waste’s its wealth on wars and speculative money manipulation on Wall Street. The world’s largest markets are also soon going to be located in China and Asia and American producer goods are not only expensive but far inferior to Japanese, German and Korean products sold in China. The U.S. is screwing itself, blaming everybody, and wants to control the global reserve currency Which also forces other big trading countries to maintain a positive balance of payments. It’s called the Triffin Dilemna:

Triffin dilemma - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The goal of the globalist manipulators is to make China the premier economy in the world. One of the primary reason that the globalist elite so bitterly hate Donald Trump is his major shift in focus from building China to building Mexico and Latin America. While the globalists tout China as the greatest nation on earth that all other, particularly America, MUST emulate, the actual economic outlook is much different. With a nominal per capita GDP of $8,612, China ranks 79 on the scale, far below Mexico who is 70.

GDP per Capita - Worldometer

GDP per capita by country. List by GDP at PPP (Purchasing Power Parity) and by Nominal GDP. Ratio to World's average GDP per capita at PPP

www.worldometers.info

China was viewed as a prime spot for international manufacturing because the totalitarian government provides a stable and compliant workforce. The risk of revolution and nationalizing of business is relatively low, as long as bribes are paid in a timely fashion. China is corrupt, the globalists can easily and readily buy ministers and functionaries to ensure business operates without regulation or oversight. The workforce was adaptive to training, vital for tech manufacturing. No environmental regulation - PNP processing of circuit boards is a nasty process.

Mexico offers many of the same benefits, but not all. Mexico is not a totalitarian state and has a generally free populace. But Mexico is highly corrupt and the government is easily bought. Environmental regulation doesn't exist. Wages are higher in Mexico, but transportation costs are a fraction. China relies on technical expertise from Korea and Taiwan, Mexico has the United States to offer expertise.

A developed Mexico, which is a done deal, and a developed central America - which is likely to happen under Trump, is a major benefit to the USA - but not to the Global Oligarchs, hence the war in the streets and the slander of the concept of nationalism and sovereignty. Brussels backs China, but they are no friends to America.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

The goal of the globalist manipulators is to make China the premier economy in the world. One of the primary reason that the globalist elite so bitterly hate Donald Trump is his major shift in focus from building China to building Mexico and Latin America.

This statement is utterly false and the product of your own imagination. The “globalist elite” is WHO exactly? Western and U.S elites have no goal but to maximize profit and to keep as much profit as possible in their own hands. Anyone even slightly informed knows that Wall Street and Western global corporations not only have NO GOAL to make China the premier economy of the world — they are now shifting their manufacturing away from China, and are generally in agreement that steps must be taken to limit China’s economic competition in world markets. They are moving production and investment to India, Vietnam, Africa, Latin America or anywhere else there are opportunities for profit.

The hardworking, disciplined and better educated Chinese workforce, the huge market that China provides — these mean that ignoring China is foolhardy. Trump has no love for Mexico or Latin America whatever. No strategy to deal with authoritarian state capitalist China. On the contrary, Trump supports Latin American dictators, admires Xi and Putin, and happily embraces disgusting butchers like Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince MSB. Trump does NOT put U.S. working people’s interests first, but puts corporate interests first, and merely spreads chaos whenever it serves his personal domestic political interest. He is unstable and incompetent. His incompetence in governing is why many U.S. capitalist and “security state” elites oppose him.

Trump’s talk about “America First“ is a political propaganda slogan that everybody knows really only means “U.S.A. First.” Given the historically evolved inclusion of European, Japanese, South Korean and Latin American capitalism in the “American financial empire,” this translates into poorly thought out, arbitrary and ever-changing regressive policies that attack even the traditional economic interests of U.S. “allies.”

You are hopelessly naive if you think the Democrats are “in China’s pocket” or serving the interests of a “globalist elite” that includes the CCP. In fact, the Liberal Democrats and their neo-con allies may well create more effect opposition to Putin and Xi than the self-destructive bloviating Trump.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The goal of the globalist manipulators is to make China the premier economy in the world. One of the primary reason that the globalist elite so bitterly hate Donald Trump is his major shift in focus from building China to building Mexico and Latin America.

This statement is utterly false and the product of your own imagination. The “globalist elite” is WHO exactly? Western and U.S elites have no goal but to maximize profit and to keep as much profit as possible in their own hands. Anyone even slightly informed knows that Wall Street and Western global corporations not only have NO GOAL to make China the premier economy of the world — they are now shifting their manufacturing away from China, and are generally in agreement that steps must be taken to limit China’s economic competition in world markets. They are moving production and investment to India, Vietnam, Africa, Latin America or anywhere else there are opportunities for profit.

The hardworking, disciplined and better educated Chinese workforce, the huge market that China provides — these mean that ignoring China is foolhardy. Trump has no love for Mexico or Latin America whatever. No strategy to deal with authoritarian state capitalist China. On the contrary, Trump supports Latin American dictators, admires Xi and Putin, and happily embraces disgusting butchers like Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince MSB. Trump does NOT put U.S. working people’s interests first, but puts corporate interests first, and merely spreads chaos whenever it serves his personal domestic political interest. He is unstable and incompetent. His incompetence in governing is why many U.S. capitalist and “security state” elites oppose him.

Trump’s talk about “America First“ is a political propaganda slogan that everybody knows really only means “U.S.A. First.” Given the historically evolved inclusion of European, Japanese, South Korean and Latin American capitalism in the “American financial empire,” this translates into poorly thought out, arbitrary and ever-changing regressive policies that attack even the traditional economic interests of U.S. “allies.”

You are hopelessly naive if you think the Democrats are “in China’s pocket” or serving the interests of a “globalist elite” that includes the CCP. In fact, the Liberal Democrats and their neo-con allies may well create more effect opposition to Putin and Xi than the self-destructive bloviating Trump.

 

[danielpalos]

We are in trade wars and democrats side with the enemy.. NEVER FORGET

lol. Proof right wingers don't believe in free market Capitalism only their socialism on a national and international basis which y'all also don't want to pay for with real times of war tax rates. Tax cut economics is cognitive dissonance in economic action, right wingers. Only right wingers allege they are not really like that in socialism threads.

Capitalism is between two agreeing people.. I don’t agree with Mexicans.. I’m American

So what. Capitalists with capital are the ones who want to make a profit, even if You don't.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

The goal of the globalist manipulators is to make China the premier economy in the world. One of the primary reason that the globalist elite so bitterly hate Donald Trump is his major shift in focus from building China to building Mexico and Latin America.

This statement is utterly false and the product of your own imagination. The “globalist elite” is WHO exactly? Western and U.S elites have no goal but to maximize profit and to keep as much profit as possible in their own hands. Anyone even slightly informed knows that Wall Street and Western global corporations not only have NO GOAL to make China the premier economy of the world — they are now shifting their manufacturing away from China, and are generally in agreement that steps must be taken to limit China’s economic competition in world markets. They are moving production and investment to India, Vietnam, Africa, Latin America or anywhere else there are opportunities for profit.

The hardworking, disciplined and better educated Chinese workforce, the huge market that China provides — these mean that ignoring China is foolhardy. Trump has no love for Mexico or Latin America whatever. No strategy to deal with authoritarian state capitalist China. On the contrary, Trump supports Latin American dictators, admires Xi and Putin, and happily embraces disgusting butchers like Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince MSB. Trump does NOT put U.S. working people’s interests first, but puts corporate interests first, and merely spreads chaos whenever it serves his personal domestic political interest. He is unstable and incompetent. His incompetence in governing is why many U.S. capitalist and “security state” elites oppose him.

Trump’s talk about “America First“ is a political propaganda slogan that everybody knows really only means “U.S.A. First.” Given the historically evolved inclusion of European, Japanese, South Korean and Latin American capitalism in the “American financial empire,” this translates into poorly thought out, arbitrary and ever-changing regressive policies that attack even the traditional economic interests of U.S. “allies.”

You are hopelessly naive if you think the Democrats are “in China’s pocket” or serving the interests of a “globalist elite” that includes the CCP. In fact, the Liberal Democrats and their neo-con allies may well create more effect opposition to Putin and Xi than the self-destructive bloviating Trump.

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When a demogogic “nationalist” runs out of intelligent arguments he will usually resort to an idiotic meme or slander — which is exactly what you did here.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Capitalism is between two agreeing people.. I don’t agree with Mexicans.. I’m American

One of the dumbest remarks here. Mexicans are also American. They are in fact located in North America along with the U.S. and Canada. Hence the so-called “North American Free Trade Agreement.” Central Americans and South Americans are also ... “Americans.”

 

[Redcurtain]

Capitalism is between two agreeing people.. I don’t agree with Mexicans.. I’m American

One of the dumbest remarks here. Mexicans are also American. They are in fact located in North America along with the U.S. and Canada. Hence the so-called “North American Free Trade Agreement.” Central Americans and South Americans are also ... “Americans.”

You are definitely not American if you call yourself Mexican lol seriously

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Capitalism is between two agreeing people.. I don’t agree with Mexicans.. I’m American

One of the dumbest remarks here. Mexicans are also American. They are in fact located in North America along with the U.S. and Canada. Hence the so-called “North American Free Trade Agreement.” Central Americans and South Americans are also ... “Americans.”

You are definitely not American if you call yourself Mexican lol seriously

If you spent any time living in South or Central America (or Mexico), you would learn the natives call you a “Gringo” or an “Ugly American.”



Maybe even a ... “Yankee imperialist” !

 

[Redcurtain]

Capitalism is between two agreeing people.. I don’t agree with Mexicans.. I’m American

One of the dumbest remarks here. Mexicans are also American. They are in fact located in North America along with the U.S. and Canada. Hence the so-called “North American Free Trade Agreement.” Central Americans and South Americans are also ... “Americans.”

You are definitely not American if you call yourself Mexican lol seriously

If you spent any time living in South or Central America (or Mexico)
you would learn the natives call you a “Gringo” or an “Ugly American.”



Maybe even a ... “Yankee imperialist” !

Seriously? 5 white cowboys conquered Mexico in like a few hours lol hahaha hahhaha they should watch their mouth

 

[Correll]

Capitalism is between two agreeing people.. I don’t agree with Mexicans.. I’m American

One of the dumbest remarks here. Mexicans are also American. They are in fact located in North America along with the U.S. and Canada. Hence the so-called “North American Free Trade Agreement.” Central Americans and South Americans are also ... “Americans.”

Mexicans are not Americans. Your sematic based nonsense is dismissed. Knock off that shit.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Covid-19 has a lot to do with this and the U.S. depends on Mexico for Oil, Produce and Manufacturing and that is why they are a very important trade partner for us.

Also with a growing manufacturing base in Mexico mean less crossing the border looking for work here...

With that said the Covid closing the border and limit travel and ability to work has caused this rise...

 

[Correll]

Capitalism is between two agreeing people.. I don’t agree with Mexicans.. I’m American

One of the dumbest remarks here. Mexicans are also American. They are in fact located in North America along with the U.S. and Canada. Hence the so-called “North American Free Trade Agreement.” Central Americans and South Americans are also ... “Americans.”

You are definitely not American if you call yourself Mexican lol seriously

If you spent any time living in South or Central America (or Mexico)
you would learn the natives call you a “Gringo” or an “Ugly American.”



Maybe even a ... “Yankee imperialist” !

Their complaint is not valid. When we declared our Independence, we were the only Independent nation in America, so they can suck it up.

 

[Likkmee]

It's his plan to get them to pay for the wall.

More wall creates more job IN Mejico.

 

[Likkmee]

BTW, I saw a graphic a few days ago estimating that China is now ~30% more expensive as a manufacturing economy than Mexico. That’s mostly due to the rise of labor costs in China.

Mostly due to transportation costs. The Achilles heel of China has always been logistics - it's the other side of the globe. Mexico is next door.

You make some good points. China may be on “the other side of the globe” but the U.S. considers itself “global policeman,” and waste’s its wealth on wars and speculative money manipulation on Wall Street. The world’s largest markets are also soon going to be located in China and Asia and American producer goods are not only expensive but far inferior to Japanese, German and Korean products sold in China. The U.S. is screwing itself, blaming everybody, and wants to control the global reserve currency Which also forces other big trading countries to maintain a positive balance of payments. It’s called the Triffin Dilemna:

Triffin dilemma - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The goal of the globalist manipulators is to make China the premier economy in the world. One of the primary reason that the globalist elite so bitterly hate Donald Trump is his major shift in focus from building China to building Mexico and Latin America. While the globalists tout China as the greatest nation on earth that all other, particularly America, MUST emulate, the actual economic outlook is much different. With a nominal per capita GDP of $8,612, China ranks 79 on the scale, far below Mexico who is 70.

GDP per Capita - Worldometer

GDP per capita by country. List by GDP at PPP (Purchasing Power Parity) and by Nominal GDP. Ratio to World's average GDP per capita at PPP

www.worldometers.info

China was viewed as a prime spot for international manufacturing because the totalitarian government provides a stable and compliant workforce. The risk of revolution and nationalizing of business is relatively low, as long as bribes are paid in a timely fashion. China is corrupt, the globalists can easily and readily buy ministers and functionaries to ensure business operates without regulation or oversight. The workforce was adaptive to training, vital for tech manufacturing. No environmental regulation - PNP processing of circuit boards is a nasty process.

Mexico offers many of the same benefits, but not all. Mexico is not a totalitarian state and has a generally free populace. But Mexico is highly corrupt and the government is easily bought. Environmental regulation doesn't exist. Wages are higher in Mexico, but transportation costs are a fraction. China relies on technical expertise from Korea and Taiwan, Mexico has the United States to offer expertise.

A developed Mexico, which is a done deal, and a developed central America - which is likely to happen under Trump, is a major benefit to the USA - but not to the Global Oligarchs, hence the war in the streets and the slander of the concept of nationalism and sovereignty. Brussels backs China, but they are no friends to America.

These guys actually contract the cheap shit out to the Chineze .Their good shit they make in house

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The goal of the globalist manipulators is to make China the premier economy in the world. One of the primary reason that the globalist elite so bitterly hate Donald Trump is his major shift in focus from building China to building Mexico and Latin America.

This statement is utterly false and the product of your own imagination. The “globalist elite” is WHO exactly? Western and U.S elites have no goal but to maximize profit and to keep as much profit as possible in their own hands. Anyone even slightly informed knows that Wall Street and Western global corporations not only have NO GOAL to make China the premier economy of the world — they are now shifting their manufacturing away from China, and are generally in agreement that steps must be taken to limit China’s economic competition in world markets. They are moving production and investment to India, Vietnam, Africa, Latin America or anywhere else there are opportunities for profit.

The hardworking, disciplined and better educated Chinese workforce, the huge market that China provides — these mean that ignoring China is foolhardy. Trump has no love for Mexico or Latin America whatever. No strategy to deal with authoritarian state capitalist China. On the contrary, Trump supports Latin American dictators, admires Xi and Putin, and happily embraces disgusting butchers like Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince MSB. Trump does NOT put U.S. working people’s interests first, but puts corporate interests first, and merely spreads chaos whenever it serves his personal domestic political interest. He is unstable and incompetent. His incompetence in governing is why many U.S. capitalist and “security state” elites oppose him.

Trump’s talk about “America First“ is a political propaganda slogan that everybody knows really only means “U.S.A. First.” Given the historically evolved inclusion of European, Japanese, South Korean and Latin American capitalism in the “American financial empire,” this translates into poorly thought out, arbitrary and ever-changing regressive policies that attack even the traditional economic interests of U.S. “allies.”

You are hopelessly naive if you think the Democrats are “in China’s pocket” or serving the interests of a “globalist elite” that includes the CCP. In fact, the Liberal Democrats and their neo-con allies may well create more effect opposition to Putin and Xi than the self-destructive bloviating Trump.

Spot on.

 

[Likkmee]

These guys were Proto USA/Mexico and separated. Their tools are made on the original tooling for Proto. Damn decent at about 60% of the Stanley/Black and Decker/Dewalt/Proto of today

 

[pknopp]

It's his plan to get them to pay for the wall.

More wall creates more job IN Mejico.

No it doesn't. As long as the jobs are here they will come.

 

[Redcurtain]

It's his plan to get them to pay for the wall.

More wall creates more job IN Mejico.

No it doesn't. As long as the jobs are here they will come.

1960 America had less than 1 million latinos.. 1965 we offer welfare .. they flood our country.. they destroy our neighborhoods and culture, with the help of democrats. They don’t come here for work. They come here to use us

 

[pknopp]

It's his plan to get them to pay for the wall.

More wall creates more job IN Mejico.

No it doesn't. As long as the jobs are here they will come.

1960 America had less than 1 million latinos.. 1965 we offer welfare .. they flood our country.. they destroy our neighborhoods and culture, with the help of democrats. They don’t come here for work. They come here to use us

Nobody can live here illegally on what you can get on public assistance. They come for the jobs.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Mexicans are not Americans. Your sematic based nonsense is dismissed. Knock off that shit.

Not only will I NOT “knock off that shit” — I will throw it in your face at every appropriate opportunity.

Seriously? 5 white cowboys conquered Mexico in like a few hours lol hahaha hahhaha they should watch their mouth

Your arrogant stupidity shows that you are indeed an “Ugly American.”

Go ahead. “Fix” the U.S. trade deficit with Mexico by imposing high protective tariffs or closing the border. See what it does to “American” corporate competitiveness!

Fuck you and your five drug addled cowboys.